Main Allohistorical Allusion Discussion

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Logicus
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03:02:40 PM Oct 11th 2017
I've been trying to track the original source of "a failed prophet living at 4 Railway Cuttings, Nazareth." Arnold Toynbee did write an essay in "Some Problems in Greek History" speculating about the further life of Alexander the Great ("If Alexander the Great had Lived on") which mentions Heron creating steam-powered ships and other vehicles at the request of Alexander XIII, but there's no explicit mention of a failed prophet. Toynbee only says, regarding the building of a Nile-Euphrates railway, that "The building of the section that ran through the Valley of Esdraelon must have been watched, from the southern brow of the Galilean hill-country, by a boy whose father was a carpenter at Nazareth."

The specific wording in the trope page seems to come from a reference to Toynbee's essay in "The Book of General Ignorance", by John Mitchinson and John Lloyd.
FlyingV
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02:58:31 PM May 12th 2010
re: cutlist

There seems to be a trope here. Perhaps delete and run it through YKTTW.
SomeSortOfTroper
04:55:03 PM May 12th 2010
well put it into YKTTW then.
FlyingV
07:20:50 PM May 12th 2010
Will do.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
09:13:10 PM May 12th 2010
<sigh> I just added a couple of examples — fanfic examples, but examples. I hope they make the YKTTW...
FlyingV
12:13:48 PM May 13th 2010
I've only gotten one example so far, but with the ones from AMF it's looking like a proper article.
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
12:19:21 PM May 13th 2010
Thank you!

I gotta warn you, the Beatles are quite popular for this sort of thing in works with sufficiently recent points of divergence — and since I am a Beatles & McCartney fan who also has some fondness for Alternate History, I am especially likely to run into (or seek out) and list those. I am wanting to list the Beatles references in Fatherland (both versions) now, but think maybe someone oughta list a more serious quick reference in there first...

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