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08:49:02 PM Jun 9th 2012
edited by agnosticnixie
Samhain is only Irish if you stick to the name, since it's the irish name of the month of Samonios.

However, it does have a welsh equivalent and the name itself is based on the name of a celtic month, mostly forgotten after the reformation (the calends of slaughter, related to the feast that happens after animals are chosen for slaughter to provide meat for the winter). It's also the old celtic new year, as the first month of the calendar was November/Samonios (although without the roman conquest changing the gaulish and british calendar it would probably have about a week apart, i.e. be around the 7th of november today).
08:40:39 AM Oct 31st 2011
edited by DaibhidC
The name All Hallows' Eve may not be related to Samhain, but the festivities, which the article aknowledges began as "a celebration of Irish and Scottish heritage", almost certainly are.

Charlemagne may have set the date of All Saints' Day as 1 November, and the Irish may have ignored this and kept celebrating it in May, but as far as I know, the Franks never went guising, or put out turnip lanterns to scare bogles away. That was the Irish and Scots, and they did it at Samhain.
11:47:27 AM Oct 31st 2011
I couldn't agree more. I also don't see why this page states that Halloween in other countries is a case of Eagleland Osmosis if it's originally Irish/Scottish. If anything, this page seems to have some kind of reverse Amerocenticism, where a festival is being downplayed for being American, when it has nothing at all to do with America other that the fact that they celebrate it. We might aswell say that St Patricks day is American because they celebrate it more that the Irish themselves. (Incase anyone's wondering what Daibhid C means, "guising" basicly means trick-or-treating in Ireland/Scotland)
11:16:55 AM Oct 30th 2011
Wouldn't it make sense to make this Main:Halloween and make the current Halloween page the film subpage?
10:43:29 AM Oct 10th 2017
I agree with this, despite it being almost six years too late.
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