04:17:51 PM Dec 13th 2013
Is it just me, or does this trope overlap too much with Best Her to Bed Her?
03:13:31 PM Aug 11th 2012
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1330128276082600100 It is from The Incredible Hercules comic, with the text etc painted out.
11:07:37 AM Mar 27th 2011
doesnt anyone else think that this article plays up the sexism part of the trope up a little too much? its almost as if they are saying "no, you are a STRONG woman, so you cannot fall for the handsome, burly muscular guy that all the other woman are swooning over. you can only make love with the wimps. matter of fact, its best if you just rape them too." im not saying that all woman are attracted to the strongest men. its just that these woman, no matter how strong, are still woman, often with a healthy sex drive, and if an incredibly hot and strong hero comes by, the type that has an entire throng of women drooling over those abs, they are just as likely to fall for him as all other women.
08:15:48 AM Apr 15th 2011
I think that sort of ignores the fact that different people — yes, even women — have different preferences. Not all women go for the strong and silent type. All the trope does is draw attention to the fact that while strong male heroes are allowed to pursue the quiet, demure women if that's their preference, strong female heroes often seem railroaded into searching for a man who's stronger than they are than settling down with a Non-Action Guy who has admirable qualities other than physical strength and a square jaw.
03:50:47 PM Aug 21st 2011
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edited by darkclaw
I posted this earlier in No Guy Wants an Amazon Discussion but it fits here too: Disclaimer - This is my opinion, I'm not saying it is always fact. Okay, All Amazons Want Hercules is often Truth in Television, in my opinion. Not always, but it is common. Due to the theory of homogenous relationships, lots of people want others with similar interests. For example, most fighters I know end up with other fighters at one point or another. Currently one of my sempai (who is a black belt in Taekwondo with a purple belt in Japanese Jiujutsu) is dating another of my friends who is a black belt in Karate. They met in martial arts classes. So, another factor is exposure. By this I mean, two things. One, the more you immerse yourself in something, the more you're likely to find others who do the same attractive. Two, the more time you spend on something, the less time you have to find others who don't do the same thing. For example, would you expect a Non-Action Guy to somehow show up in a dojo and be around often and long enough that he falls in love with an Action Girl there and she reciprocates AND the Non-Action Guy doesn't learn ANY fighting skills? Though it probably wouldn't make the guy more badass than the Action Girl, but if he wanted to attract the Action Girl, how do you think he would go about it due to societal expectations: I can't fight at all, please date me vs. -learns how to fight- I can fight too, we share a common interest, date me. Societal expectations also play a huge role. However, due to homogenous relationship theory, it means the gender inverse can be true as well. A lot of guys may play into societal expectations, but if they spend most of their time in a dojo and/or gym, what kind s of girls do you think they'll meet? More importantly, what do you think they are more likely to find attractive? If you don't believe this, think about all of your fetishes. I'm willing to bet that for most of you reading this, at least one of your kinks has developed from seeing it a lot or grown stronger from that. It is the same for things like physical strength or fighting ability. I'm not saying this is 100% accurate, but is has a lot of basis in reality. My sources are - Studying psychology, sociology, have studied fetishism and attraction theories. Also a fighter and bodybuilder, and went from being lustful over Hollywood Thin women when younger and watched a ton of Hollywood movies to being lustful over Amazonian Beauties and Hot Amazon fighters as I worked out and fought more and more. So, personal experience plays a role in this too.
11:25:56 PM Oct 3rd 2014
Remember Gene Roddenberry's THREE (yes, count 'em, THREE) pilots involving Dylan Hunt and his adventures in the 22nd century? The second in the series, which starred John Saxon as Dylan Hunt, was called "Planet Earth". In it, a doctor who is needed for a critical surgery is residing incognito in an Amazonian society located in the former San Joaquin valley of California. The men are held in submission by the "Amazonian" women who do the fighting and governing, and have the status of virtual slaves. This is facilitated by a drug being put in their daily gruel. To get the doctor out of the Amazonian colony, goes along with his fellow agent, a young woman by the name of Harper-Smythe who entertains what would have been termed at the times some notions of "women's lib". Smythe poses as a woman who has taken Hunt captive and wishes to join the colony. She has to fight for possession of her male, and though she wins a challenge, ends up "lending" him to her challenger,named "Marg", the effective leader (portrayed by Diana Muldaur who starred twice in Star Trek in guest roles, and, of course, had a regular role for a whole season in ST:NG as Dr. Katharine Pulaski). Marg, like some of the other women, not only despair to conceive children (they don't realize that the drug they administer to the man-slaves causes sterility), but she secretly pines away for a man who can dominate her. Even one of her confederates on their council chides her for this desire. Dylan Hunt ends up getting her drunk (a ruse where he spins a yarn about having multiple wives and a horde of children, and a great sexual experience is achieved through "balance") and presumably (keep in mind this show first aired in 1974) nails Marg. In the meantime, the doctor has been found and the drug has been removed from the gruel secretly. The colony is beset by a roving band of mutants who've adopted a military, almost Red-Army type tone (their uniforms even resemble those of the contemporary Soviets). Hunt, along with other other Pax team members, leads a resistance to the marauders which eventually the previously docile males join in and fight. The women appreciate their males asserting themselves in protecting the women and vow to (1) not use the drug anymore and (2) reorient their society more along equality.