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Main Adolf Hitler Discussion
Just out of curiosity, the Locked Page says that this was locked due to a "controversial image caption change".
What was it?
Why isn't Cool But Impractical in the tropes list? Hitler was a Real Life master of this trope: up to the end, he believed that a combination of secret super-weapons and Aryan badassness could turn the tides of the war for the Reich. According to historians, if he had cancelled the V-bomb program and put all the money into building more conventional bombers and fighters, the Nazis could have had a chance of winning. He also planned to tear down the whole of Berlin and build a brand new "world capital" city in its place!
"Rather than driving on Moscow, the centre of the USSR's armament industry, its rail nexus, and where fellow General Failure Semen Buedyenny had the main Russian armies, he tried to score a propaganda victory by capturing Leningrad and Stalingrad."
This isn't that accurate of an explanation. Germany didn't really go for Stalingrad in 1941, and they were able to pursue Leningrad & Moscow both at the same time. What delayed the advance on Moscow was an encirclment of 600,000 Russians at Kiev. And it's far from certain that going for Moscow sooner would have meant success (Panzers were made for open steppes, not urban warfare), especially with 600k extra Russians there to fight.
It's kind of a pity the YMMV page for Adolf Hitler is locked. The "Ruined Forever" list that used to be under his picture (listing things such as Charlie Chaplin moustaches, the Swastika as native american symbol, etc.) certainly deserves a mention.
I'd suggest we add in another trope, Day of The Jackboot. Given that the man is probably a large reason why it's named that way (particularly the Jackboot part) it's probably a good place to cover life under the occupations. That and things like his early peacetime career and the Double Subversion of his coming to power after Munich and the Beer Hall Putsch.
The Side Note ...
"It is not clear whether he was complete in the genitalia department, as few people really got to check, and Eva Braun was silent on the issue. Given that enemies of England tend to suffer the same injury, (Napoleon was rumored to be monorchid as well) this was likely allied propaganda of an informal sort. "
...should be edited. In the Canadian Documentary "The Richie Boys", http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435725/
, two of the old intelligence soldiers talk about pulling a prank about exactly that subject and getting into hot water with it. One of the two recalls having a laughing fit when he read his prank being reported as factual in a newspaper in the 80ies or nineties. While I don't remember the names, they could be actually quoted.
There's probably another trope there...
, two of the old intelligence soldiers talk about pulling a prank about exactly that subject and getting into hot water with it. One of the two recalls having a laughing fit when he read his prank being reported as factual in a newspaper in the 80ies or nineties. While I don't remember the names, they could be actually quoted.
There's probably another trope there...
I'd like to request that From Nobody To Nightmare be added to this page. He was originally some failed artist, and ended up one of the most infamous, if not the outright worst, tyrant/genocidal maniac/artist of all human history.
I'd like to suggest a change to one of the General Failure entries. The claim that Hitler's attack on Yugoslavia delayed his invasion of Russia is a myth. The reality is that Russia's rainy season lasted six weeks longer than it normally did and, consequentially, made roads far too muddy to traverse until June. That was just bad luck on Hitler's part and the invasion of Yugoslavia had no effect on Operation Barbarossa.
Think we could add Drugs Are Bad as one of the tropes that applied to Hitler? All the meth and coke that his doctor was injecting him with no doubt played a role in his mismanagement of the war and eventual Villainous Breakdown.
Locking this page seems to be little premature - there are still several factual errors and the page as a whole is very biased towards an "intentionalist" school of interpretation.
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"There exists a film of him just a few days before his death, and when one compares a photograph of him from 1940, he looks about 25 years older; he has a sort of hunch to his back, as if he suffered from osteoporosis, his face was pale and wrinkled-looking, his hands shook, and his walking was a sort of slow shuffle, as if he was very physically weak, and he basically looked half dead already."
Can someone post a link to this video, please? It sounds interesting, but I can't find it anywhere...
I cut out the 1984 reference. As far as anyone knows, George Orwell based 1984 on his experiences with Stalin's brand of Communism, and had no experience with life in Hitler's Germany (being British and all). While Nazi Germany certainly was a totalitarian state, it was not the model for Oceania in 1984.
The opening paragraphs seem kind of unfocused. They go from his legacy to the meth addiction to his death and then to his early life. Perhaps a bit of re-arranging is in order?
Hey all, not one to just get in there and start editing, so thought I would mention this and give people a chance to have a go at me. In the opening paragraph it says Hitler's mother lived a Bohemian lifestyle, which is frankly a load of rubbish. Pretty certain Hitler's mother never lived in Vienna either, he moved there himself and lived a strange life there, tho not really Bohemian. He went to the Opera a lot with his only friend until he basically ran out of money and ended up on the street.
OK so, do I put that in, or do we just leave it?