On a much sadder note, same complaint goes for the Real Life Barcelona van attack example. When you're just plain lying about who you are and that's it, and someone finds out you were lying later, that's not this trope.
The fact that both bad examples I mentioned are criminals evading detection just goes to show the completely different "narrative effect" of this trope compared to what is essentially standard criminal behavior.
In the Star Wars Episode I example it is asserted that Qui-Gon knows that Padme is the Queen. Is that substantiated? I feel like it's supposed to be a surprise to him as well.
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I don't remember that either, but I'll be honest it's been awhile and I doubt I'll ever watch that full movie again :P
"Oh, you teach physics? Do you know about that new textbook that's making waves, Matter and Interactions?"
Professor Ruth Chabay: "Er, well, I co-wrote it."
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I'm surprised this was not mentioned earlier... In the mythology of Jesus and his resurrection, after He was crucified and buried in his tomb Mary came to visit. But, His grave was ransacked! At least it appeared so, there appeared a gardener.
'Where is Jesus? So that I may go return him.'
The gardener replied, "Jesus, I am he'
To which Mary was flabbergasted and clung to Him.
Recorded in most likely Luke or John towards the end of the books. A classic that must be included!
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John 20.
11 Now Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb 12 and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus’ body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.
13 They asked her, “Woman, why are you crying?”
“They have taken my Lord away,” she said, “and I don’t know where they have put him.” 14 At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus.
15 He asked her, “Woman, why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?”
Thinking he was the gardener, she said, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him.”
16 Jesus said to her, “Mary.”
She turned toward him and cried out, “Teacher!”
Sorcerer in training
"In Notre Dame Of Paris, also known as The Hunchback of Notre Dame (by Victor Hugo)."
This entry is unclear. Is it the title of the book itself, or something that happens in it? I've never read an unabridged version or seen most of the movies based on it.
Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
About the story involving G-Dubs and the corporal (Real Life section), there is probably an error in that story. The rank of corporal is not an officer rank, and realistically, a corporal would be expected to participate in manual labor.
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Below sergeant
in most military structures, above a private, and definitely expected to participate in manual labor.
The other 'c' rank is colonel, which is very much an officer.
On the flip side, British corporals of the time have been recorded as being overly arrogant and not as nice as they could be, particularly when there weren't any officers around. And originally, the Americans continued a lot of the British traditions.
Edited by Candi Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Someone mentions Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. In Chamber of Secrets I believe this also happens when Harry asks why Tom Riddle was so preoccupied with Voldemort, and Tom reveals that his name is an anagram of 'I am Lord Voldemort'. Maybe this could be included in the section?
Do we care that grammatically, it should be "I Am He"?
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Evidently not. Unfortunate. I just came over here to make the same complaint.
I don't think Keyser Soze is a good example. He never reveals himself to Agent Kujan. The whole point of the trope is either intentionally revealing yourself to the questioner, or at least admitting it was you once confronted about it.
Just being discovered to have been in disguise and never talking about it face to face with the person being deceived, doesn't feel like this trope. Thoughts?
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