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05:20:41 PM Apr 15th 2012
I deleted this from the "People with physical features that some just don't happen to personally find attractive" section. It was listed as a Real Life example:

  • When a discussion focuses on how no man would turn down sex or would think he hit the lottery if he experienced the same type of sexual harassment that women commonly fight against, an inevitable rebuttal is "yeah, but what if she was fat/ugly/middle-aged/otherwise not conventionally attractive."
    • Which fits in with the viewpoint that most women wouldn't consider it sexual harassment if the harasser was, say, George Clooney, rather than the shlub from 2 cubicles down.

It just sounds kind of like someone arguing with themselves about catcalling and is weird in general. I had to read the first sentence several times for it to make sense to me.

Also, women DO still consider it sexual harassment to receive lewd comments/gestures from people who aren't ugly (or people we can't see, e.g. motorists), it's rude and upsetting and this comment sounds like it's justifying it. But MOSTLY I think there are about a million arguments about this sort of thing out there on the web and we don't need one here. And that there are enough fictional examples of this without a really weird Real Life one.
01:37:43 AM May 19th 2011
"Kill Moves from Everybody Hates Chris. " - I've looked at this six ways from Sunday and I still can't work out what it means.
04:32:42 PM Aug 9th 2010
This page needs a cleanup. Most don't have examples, many don't even have descriptions. It seems to be full of people moaning about things that they themselves have been mocked for.
02:15:32 PM May 7th 2010
I cut most of the TLDR stuff from Evil Albino— it should go on the trope page, not here.


  • Evil Albino (though with some luck this just might be heading for Discredited Trope status, though there's still a very long way to go yet. See Heroic Albino and compare how much shorter that list is to the Evil Albino one) The treatment of albinism in fiction is startlingly harsh. The condition seems to have been declared officially creepy with Moby-Dick. There are no ordinary people who happen to be albino; instead there are an assortment of insidious operatives and psychotic killers, such as Silas from The Da Vinci Code and the guy from the 2nd season of The Pretender. There is a sense of albinos having some kind of otherworldly powers, when all they can really claim is poor vision and susceptibility to skin cancer. And, of course, there's the White-Haired Pretty Boy. See Evil Albino.
    • Don't forget The Invisible Man. At least in his case his powers were attributable to his albinism; H. G. Wells didn't throw it in to make him weird.
      • What albinism? He was a scientist who developed an invisibility serum.
      • It's stated pretty clearly and is an integral part to the "science" of invisibility in the novel that Griffin is an albino. Something about being naturally an albino and therefore lacking pigment/melanin makes the invisibility process easier.
    • Horrible truth in television since the persecution of albinos is still widespread, especially in areas of Africa where witch doctors pay a fine fee for albino limbs to use in their concoctions
    • The opposite version of this is the Heroic Albino.
    • Interestingly, one of the few albino characters played straight on TV is scientist Pete White on The Venture Bros., who is a normal, personable guy, aside from his condition.
      • He's kind of a creep, but a perfectly mundane one.
    • Whitey from Me, Myself & Irene has a few jokes made at his expense from Charlie's Jerk Ass alter ego Hank, but is otherwise portrayed as a nice guy who just happens to be albino.
      • Until he reveals that he murdered his entire family.
        • It is revealed toward the end of the movie that it was a lie. He was sleeping next to a paranoid schizophrenic cop with Displaced Identity Disorder. What was he suppose to do?
    • The Starfleet Academy children's novels at one point paired Geordi LaForge with an albino on a team made up of what many of their classmates considered "misfits". However, she was treated as largely just another character, save for her noting several times - during the central capture-the-flag game, so quite reasonably - that she could not be out in the direct sun too long lest she suffer an excruciating sunburn.
      • Star Trek is naturally an exception, being a place where aliens of all types are treated as equal, and the birthplace of genuine political correctness on television. However it is interesting that a person couldn't obtain sunscreen in the 24th century, simply to hang a lampshade on her albinism.
        • Even very strong sunscreen is no guarantee of avoiding a sunburn. Normal people can still get sunburned while slathered with sunscreen, if the sun is bright enough or they stay out long enough; this hazard would no doubt be increased for an albino. Add to this that the game was half capture-the-flag and half survival training, and it was a legitimate point.
        • Actually, one episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine had an episode with an albino Klingon villain (do you know how badly you have to Kick the Dog to be hated by the Klingons for your evilness?) who was known only as "The Albino."
    • Edgar and Johnny Winter, two Real Life music stars who happen to both be albino, once sued the creators of a comic book which featured two grotesque albino villains, called "The Autumn Brothers", that were loosely based on them.
    • And, no H.P. Lovecraft fan shall forget, Lavinia Whateley, the woman who gave birth to the titular character of The Dunwich Horror and its brother, was a crazy albino creepy woman. And Lovecraft makes it very clear right in the beginning of the story.
    • Of course, there's the character in The Princess Bride known only as "The Albino."
      • And he's not high in command, and, while he has nothing against the plain vanilla torture, he briefly shows concern when it's kicked up a notch.
    • Interestingly enough, this trope was reversed in the recent Anime and Manga series Soul Eater, where one of the protagonists is an albino.
      • Albino characters seem to be semi-common in anime, just that the semi-accepted traits for them (pink eyes, pale blue or pale blond hair)... um... well, they don't actually stand out that much in most anime.
    • Completely reversed in the movie Powder, where the protagonist is a nearly perfect human being and albino. Referred to in the story when the town's resident bigot gets creeped out by Powder. The sheriff turns to him and says, "Huh, never thought we'd find someone too white for you."
      • Powder doesn't count, since it's obviously a Gary Stu "distinquishing" feature like unusual eye-color etc.
    • Though it's a little hard to tell, what with anime art styles and all, Rei Ayanami was intended to be an albino.
    • In the 1985 movie Stick Burt Reynolds taunted the Albino Hitman named Moke by calling him "Bunny Eyes."
      • This seems to be a pattern with Burt who also refers to an albino as having "Bunny Eyes" in the 1976 movie Hustle.
        • This only refers to albino bunnies, so it's strange that he only applies it to their eyes.
    • Dorothy Allison's novel Bastard out of Carolina features an albino child who is as nasty and racist as any adult character, if not more so, who later explodes in a barbecuing accident. No, really.
    • One of the recurring protagonists in short stories by author Larry Niven is crack pilot Beowulf Schaeffer, whose albinism is occasionally a plot point.
    • One of the characters in Moonshine from the Cal Leandros books is an albino werewolf (Flay). He is initially assumed to be both stupid and treacherous, but by the end of the book we learn that Flay is a lot smarter than anyone realized, and his double-crossing behavior was ordered by the kidnapper of his 3-year old son.. It turns out that werewolves are notorious for their intolerance against anyone 'different.'
11:16:14 AM Mar 28th 2012
  • Horrible truth in television since the persecution of albinos is still widespread, especially in areas of Africa where witch doctors pay a fine fee for albino limbs to use in their concoctions.

This seems like one of the things that needs a citation badly.
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