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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 8:55:10 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Misused, started by grapesandmilk on Aug 27th 2018 at 9:41:47 PM

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the_maid-made_monster Since: Sep, 2017
Jan 25th 2022 at 5:46:08 AM •••

I was surprised The Golden Compass (and subsequent books) didn't make the literature list. A kid and their magical pet is one of my favorite tropes and The Golden Compass is one of my favorite books. EDIT: Added it! I didn't know tvtropes could be edited. :)

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May 2nd 2019 at 8:13:02 PM •••

I'm not sure if anyone's noticed yet, but the overwhelming majority of examples got nixed for being Zero Context Examples.

Does it really benefit us to enforce this rule so indiscriminately across all tropes? Examples for tropes like these are pretty self-explanatory — very little context is required to understand them. The essence of the trope is, literally, An X and their Y. I can't imagine how anyone could have any difficulty understanding examples written in that format.

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
Aug 12th 2019 at 9:14:38 AM •••

Because simply "An X and their Y" is not really different from Non-Human Sidekick. Apparently the context in this case should be how the non-human companion changes the young person for the better and helps them mature.

VeronicaWakefield Since: Oct, 2011
Jun 20th 2013 at 12:39:54 PM •••

This has seriously turned into "any series with sidekick or deuteragonist," which borders on People Sit On Chairs. Even the page quote doesn't fit the trope description (which specifies a Bildungsroman where the entry of something into the protagonist's life triggers growth and development to maturity).

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leo235 Since: Nov, 2014
Nov 21st 2014 at 2:14:31 AM •••

yes and I think its because there is an important aspect in almost all examples that is missing in the description:

The X is usually extremely powerful.

Also the X is often externally tied to the character (living in his pokeball, toothless cant fly without the boy, he is the terminators mission).

Also its often a love cripple in that it can pretty much only love others, has no bad feelings or is subject to a trope like Because You Were Nice to Me

I think these aspects are critical to the concept of most of the examples and what makes them work emotionally.

edit: I have since realized, that what I described there is probably more of a subtrope. What this article needs then is more actual subtropes and references to them.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Nov 21st 2014 at 7:44:42 AM •••

Yeah.

I pulled a ZCE from Owl City saying he's "A Boy And His Synthesizer" which... doesn't sound right.

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