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direguy Since: May, 2014
Oct 2nd 2020 at 9:38:43 PM •••

Can we start a page of The Horus Hersey Legions card game?

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SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
Oct 2nd 2020 at 11:43:50 PM •••

If there are enough tropes unique to it (3 at the absolute minimum, 12 for preference) and a descripting that hasn't been been copy/pasted from elsewhere then go for it.

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SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
Oct 5th 2020 at 1:20:38 AM •••

It does look a little light overall, and a number of the tropes are a little light on contexed as well.

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pyro104 Since: Feb, 2016
Dec 26th 2019 at 6:07:00 PM •••

I'd like to bring up a crazy conclusion of mine for discussion: the Void Dragon won the Horus Heresy. Of all the major players in the galaxy, he is the only one to truly come out in a better position than he started. The Emperor is a quasi-corpse on a failing life support machine, His Imperial Truth is replaced with a religious dogma of ignorance so that none of them understand technology, save the Mechanicus, who unknowingly worship the Dragon and now possesses Adepts on all but the most primitive of Imperial worlds courtesy of the Great Crusade. Eldrad destroyed the Cabal. The Chaos Gods failed to bring down the Imperium, Horus was destroyed leaving Abaddon, hardly Horus' strategic equal, as the only being remotely capable of uniting the full forces of the Ruinous Powers. While the Dragon is sealed in the Noctis Labyrinth, the instructions to maintain his restraints are now lost, and anyone who knows about the Dragon are dead (Malcador, presumably), near-dead (Big E), or hierarchical nobodies(Dalia and Rho-Mu 31). And now in the 42nd millennium, the Imperium is so desperate to keep the Golden Throne running that they call on the Dark Eldar for tech support, while Rouboute Guilliman has become disillusioned with the Emperor. If Guilliman were to discover that the galaxy's greatest technological mind was sleeping on Mars and had at least some reason to cooperate with humanity (Mag'ladroth would probably enjoy keeping the Astronomican working and the Emperor from pulling any Perpetual nonsense, plus he'd command Titan Legions as a god), who's to say the two demigods wouldn't cooperate out of mutual benefit.

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Drgonzo Dr. Gonzo Since: Jan, 2011
Dr. Gonzo
Nov 26th 2013 at 12:55:37 AM •••

Ok, throwing this out there: I can't be the only one who doesn't like the whole "Cabal/Perpetuals" subplot, right? It doesn't seem to make any sense in terms of the larger narrative, nor does it seem to connect in anyway with the "modern" 40k setting. And they seem to be heroic one moment and then villainous the next. Anyone else out there think this was just a bad idea?

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Kainlarsen Since: Jan, 2010
Jan 5th 2014 at 12:35:42 AM •••

As with everything in the 40K universe, no-one is ever pure good. Take into account the idea of blue and orange morality, and the fact that all xenos hate Humankind, though they hate Chaos more.

Calandir Since: Aug, 2010
Mar 2nd 2013 at 10:59:59 AM •••

Just finished reading The Outcast Dead. Do the Emperor's final words actually mean that he knew all along, or that he just was agreeing with Kai's statement? It seems as if it could be either, but the phrasing is ambiguous (could get really meta and say that it's intentional?)

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
Mar 2nd 2013 at 12:43:13 PM •••

Put the words in spoilers so I can read them because that may jog my memory.

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Calandir Since: Aug, 2010
Mar 6th 2013 at 4:13:06 PM •••

"But you're going to die..." "I know" said the Emperor.

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
Mar 6th 2013 at 8:45:10 PM •••

Ah that. I think it was meant to be ambiguous, but I don't think he wanted to. It's not like he waited to be wounded, he just hesitated because he still had a soft part for his son.

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Calandir Since: Aug, 2010
Mar 12th 2013 at 8:46:20 PM •••

Thanks. It just seemed like the general consensus on the page was the Emperor already knew significantly before Kai told him, but it read as ambiguous.

GoodLuc Since: Jun, 2013
Aug 23rd 2013 at 1:54:17 PM •••

My thought that the Emperor deliberately made Imperium in such a way to provoke Horus Heresy. Maybe he had views not unlike of Istvaanian Inquisitor. See http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Inquisition, Istvaanism.

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Minister Do Not Go Gentle Since: Jul, 2011
Do Not Go Gentle
Jan 3rd 2012 at 11:40:34 PM •••

Blatant Lies:

Spoiler warning for anyone who hasn't read Prospero Burns...

but 'there are no wolves on fenris', is absolutely true. There aren't; all the Wolves are implied to be failed applicants to become Astartes/

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
Dec 22nd 2012 at 11:14:42 PM •••

Which include Brom, I believe.

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