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billybobfred
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01:13:23 AM Jan 2nd 2012
I'm cleaning up the page right now and can't be assed to do the official Thing That Is Done with the Did Not Do The Research links (which is change them into the appropriate subtrope). So here it is for anyone who can be assed.

  • Did Not Do The Research: Anything remotely connected to science or technology that can't be handwaved as magic/advanced scifi technology presents glaring errors.
    • Also, a couple errors are made in The Eternity Code, when Artemis et al. are in America, presumably caused by Colfer not being American. At one point, Foaly describes something as being against Chicago State Law. Chicago is a city, not a State. Later on, a member of Chicago PD's SWAT team refers to an elevator as a lift.
      • In the line of elevator = lift, Jon Spiro's company is Fission Chips. It's a clever pun and fish and chips certainly aren't unknown on this side of the pond, but it seems unlikely that one of the biggest electronic companies in the country would have a name that would strike most Americans as British.
      • At another point in the book, a character says something about a car's boot. An American would call it the "trunk."
    • In The Arctic Incident, Holly knocks out Koboi with 'a swift rabbit punch to the forehead'. A rabbit punch is a boxing foul, and very specifically a blow to the back of the head.
    • In "The Atlantis Complex", Artemis explains the name of his alter ego as Orion by saying that in Greek myth, Orion was Artemis' mortal enemy and she summoned a scorpion to kill him. That's completely wrong. There are two tales of his death, both with Orion being very close to Artemis. One version says that he hunted alongside Artemis until he got bloodthirsty and vowed to hunt every animal on Earth; Gaia objected and had him slain by a scorpion. The other version says that Artemis and Orion were lovers, and Apollo disapproved, so Apollo tricked his sister into shooting Orion, who was shapeshifted by Apollo. In both cases, Artemis grieved and had Orion (and the Scorpion) made into a constellation.
      • There is also a version mentioned in The Odyssey where Eos, the goddess of the dawn, fell in love with Orion, and Artemis proceeded to kill him, presumably out of spite for mortals. There was no scorpion involved, though.
KamenRiderOokalf
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03:14:27 PM Mar 10th 2011
Shouldn't there be YMMV and Crowning Moment tags at the top of the page?
lppdf
02:25:45 PM Mar 16th 2011
I completely noticed. ''WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THIS PAGE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
SpellBlade
02:54:25 PM Mar 16th 2011
Someone set the page type to "trope."

I fixed it by setting it to "work".
Marie
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03:26:01 AM Jun 23rd 2010
edited by Marie
Zapped natter by 58.167.42.197:
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  • Accidental? When's there an accidental kiss?
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  • ... What?
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  • Author Appeal: The narrative would often go into the horrific outcomes of pollution and how Humans Are Bastards for all their environmentally destructive ways. Also for killing animals for consumption and espousing the virtues of the green and vegetarian lifestyle of the fairies.
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  • Author Appeal: The narrative would often go into the horrific outcomes of pollution and how Humans Are Bastards for all their environmentally destructive ways. Also for killing animals for consumption and espousing the virtues of the green and vegetarian lifestyle of the fairies.
    • Actually, fairies aren't vegetarian.
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  • Uh, it really isn't that confusing. Or indeed, confusing at all.

In reply: The 'accidental' kiss is when Holly kisses Artemis after healing him in TTP. That's probably not strictly true, and indeed, I will remove that too. Fairy habits as described are clearly not actually vegetarian according to any sane definition thereof (vole curry, smuggling fish, insects a necessary part of a dwarf's diet), but they are also called vegetarian pretty frequently — see the IJBM page. Plenty of people do find it confusing, no need to taunt them with your superior understanding.
Marie
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11:07:53 PM Apr 6th 2010
edited by Marie
Removed (temporarily?)

Anybody have a clue which species that troper actually meant here? Sprites are the green winged species the alcoholic outcast in Vietnam in the first book and the private who was sexually harassing Holly while on stakeout at the beginning of the second book belong to; no indication they're unusually stupid or pretty. The only 'brainless beauty' I can think of is Lili Frond, who is an Elf, the species we see the most of (Holly, Root, Cudgeon, Vinyaya, and the Kelps are also Elves, as was King Frond). The troper may have meant Opal's species, Pixies, which would explain the exception, but I don't recall any indication they're mostly unusually stupid either. Goblins are stupid, but not at all pretty, and no indication of an exception.

Edit: Actually, having re-read the trope, it doesn't sound like it works as a hat trope, just an individual characterisation one. Additionally, I'm quite sure nobody but Lili could possibly count, and even then it's an Informed Attribute which may in fact be due to Holly's internalised sexism rather than objective canon.
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