Just For Fun The Tropeless Tale Discussion

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PolarPhantom
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08:01:36 AM Dec 5th 2017
I believe Wittgenstein said that a language game can only exist if there is more than one person to participate in it.

If I were to apply this to tropes, if I wrote something it would only have tropes if I had an audience. Can only an audience ascribe tropes to a work?

If I had no audience, would it even make sense to call what I've written a work?
ScroogeMacDuck
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06:45:53 AM Oct 11th 2015
edited by ScroogeMacDuck
Doing a completely tropeless tale is impossible, but what about a tale without any intentional tropes, and only Omnipresent Tropes ? I think it could be possible to do an Almost-Tropeless-Tale by using only "self-evident" tropes, those that are inherently part of normal storytelling and that you find in practically any story that's not a willing Deconstruction, but avoiding using any more complicated tropes.

Of course, you could decide that "Tropeless" is a trope in itself, but we're falling into paradox territory so for the sake of simplicity let's ignore this part.
PolarPhantom
09:05:56 AM Dec 5th 2017
I believe that tropes only exist because we define them as such.

From the point of view of a dog - or, to be really thorough, a bacterium - there are no tropes because they cannot perceive them.

Basically, you write write a story with no "intentional" tropes and tropers will still add tropes because they see them in your story.

The only way I think one can go about it, as I've suggested above, is to write something without an audience. And that's only if one considers the author to not be an audience in themselves.
Zeanobia
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02:05:32 AM Jan 21st 2014
The Tropeless Tale - By Zeanobia.

The end.
ScroogeMacDuck
12:20:18 PM Apr 14th 2016
edited by ScroogeMacDuck
Nope! Sorry, but:

And also, since it is not tropeless:

PS: Don't try to work your way around all that by removing the title, because No Title is a trope.

ScroogeMacDuck
12:21:25 PM Apr 14th 2016
…do you think we should get a trope page for your 'work' ?
Zeanobia
05:22:30 AM Jun 15th 2016
Lol sure, I didn't have the guts in fear of spamming. Go ahead xD
Ronfar
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04:11:45 AM Jul 4th 2013
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Specialist290
10:08:36 PM Sep 8th 2013
ScroogeMacDuck
12:23:36 PM Apr 14th 2016
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