Should Lady in the Water be added? It was widely panned on release, made a number of top 10 "worst films" lists that year, and has a 25% "rotten" score on RT. It's generally seen as Shaymalon's Creator Killer and can be even harder to sit through than The Last Airbender due to how dull it is.
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25% is actually arguably still too high.
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I've also seen people see it as So Bad, It's Good, including Doug Walker.
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Has Grown Ups 2 been discussed since the reviews are markedly worse than the first one?
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Should Bring It Own Cheer or Die should be on this list?? It has 13% on RT and 3.9 on IMDB (presumably making it the lowest rating entry of the BIO franchise) and bare in minds that the other entries aside the first one doesn't have a Official Rating on RT
Gotti (2018) could be a contender. It has a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, 24 on Metacritic and 4.7 on IM Db, and it's underperforming at the box office, with only $2.4 million against a $10 million budget.
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The fact that it attacked its critics and resorted to Astroturfing to make it look like audiences liked it doesn't help their case either.
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can someone please add Dinesh D'souzea's newest film "Trump Card" to his section it's as universally despised as his other two entries in his section and I hate it's message, misunderstanding of orwell's work (he was an avowed democratic socialist who hated authoritarian socialism cause he viewed it as diet capitalism so a conservative coopting his messages is disgusting) and all the reviews are horrible but I refuse to watch far right media for the sake my sanity but I needs to be added
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I was gonna point out its high RT audience score
, but all of D'Souza's works have a high audience score...hmmmm.
What do you call the opposite of review bombing? Because that's probably what's happening here.
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Yeah, that might be the case here, considering arguably all of his films pretty much pander to the conservative point of view, especially from around Hillary's America onward.
Can we add Jeff Wadlow (Fantasy Island 2020, True Memoirs of an International Assassin) here? So far he has not directed* a single film that's fresh on Rotten Tomatoes from both critics and audiences alike, and the latter has a 0%. However, most of the audience scores lean more into the below average scores (min. 22% for Truth Or Dare and max. 57% for Kickass 2, and even True Memoirs had a 43%), so Critical Dissonance maybe at play.
- He did exec produce the So Okay, It's Average Non-Stop
If the audience scores are simply below average, then no, doesn't qualify.
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Hey, I've noticed we have two live-action films from Creator/Netflix in the Horrible section: Enter the Anime and The Open House. And if you count other works there's Leo the Lion and that bad Reboot reboot. So, I was wondering if maybe Netflix could be on Repeat Offenders? Now don't me wrong, Netflix is well known for having some amazing series and films, but sadly, even they're not immune to having a couple of stinkers as well.
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I don't think so, as Netflix mostly makes works that don't qualify as horrible, and repeat offenders is for those who make mostly horrible works. Note the amount of movies on these pages by Warner Bros, Columbia, Universal, etc, and how they arent listed due to the amount of great movies they have made. If you have any more questions head to the SBIH cleanup thread in the Long Term/Perpetual forums.
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Shouldn't An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn be on the list? It won five Razzies, has an 8% on Rotten Tomatoes with critics and 13% with audiences, is on the Roger Ebert Most Hated Film List, and isn't listed as So Bad, It's Good.
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I just finished watching it and yes it should. One of the worst goddamn things I've ever seen, and I'm willing to defend stuff like Cat in the Hat.
The film he was making (also an Alan Smithee film) was better than the film I got to watch. It's terrible. It's as terrible as The Cassandra Crossing is boring. EDIT: I've got a unicode issue, my apostrophes are putting a slash before them.
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It also was the Creator Killer for Hollywood Pictures and the Adam Smithee name itself and is frequently considered one of the worst films ever made. I would write an entry, but I haven't seen it. It more than qualifies.
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Nevermind, IMDb is oddly positive. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0118577/reviews?ref_=m_tt_urv (Link may not work. For whatever reason all of my links in the discussions pages are like this. If any of you guys have a solution to this I'd greatly appreciate it.)
It still only has a 3.5 out of 10 on IMDb, and while user reviews saying it's not that bad come to the top when sorted by "most helpful", there's a lot of 1- and 2-star reviews.
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Do you know how to edit yourself? No offense, how old are you?
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Is this film bad enough to be part of our list? If it is, should we add it under the title Jaws in Japan or Psycho Shark?
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I can't find ANYTHING online about a Sarik Andreasyon adaptation of Karlsson On The Roof. Does the movie even exist?
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London Fields could qualify. It has a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 4.3 on IM Db and it grossed only $433,732 against an $8 million budget.
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I proposed it a while back. Only the producer's cut qualifies; the director's cut has defenders. We did the same cut-based thing with The Brown Bunny, so...
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^ Ditto for Titanic: The Legend Goes On (see the Animated Films page). The uncut version is SBIH, while the revised cut is closer to So Bad, It's Good.
Oh, okay. I haven't seen it myself; maybe someone who has could add it.
I'm wondering if Dinesh D'Souza actually belongs here. While I don't like him myself, he does have a strong fanbase that genuinely follows him. If you've ever heard someone say "The Nazis were socialists!" in certain circles, chances are they actually believe Dinesh's points. Plus, the audience score for Doa N is 89%.
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We need to come to a consensus on the Nostalgia Critic reviews because people have been constantly deleting and re-adding them on all four of this section's subpages and the Animated Film subpage of this trope ever since the #ChangeTheChannel incident, and it's pretty much an Edit War. We need to make a decision over whether the links need to stay or go so people aren't constantly deleting or re-adding them.
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Holmes & Watson could be a possible contender. It has a 4% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 3.9 on IM Db and is underperforming at the box office. Also, viewers walked out of screenings of the film.
Does the second Lupin III live-action movie (The 2014 one, not Strange Psychokinetic Strategy) belong here? It did okay in its box office, with $22 million with a budget of $10 million but it got a severe critical panning from both critics and Lupin fans and it sounds pretty damn terrible from what I've seen from reviews.
I think Speed 2: Cruise Control should be added. It has a Rotten Tomatoes Tomatometer rating of only 3%, an IMDb rating of 3.8 and grossed only $164 million worldwide against its $160 million budget.
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Welp, I know it's very early, but it seems to me that The Snowman is probably going to end up qualifying for this. Critics eviscerated it (7% RT/21 Meta), the general audience isn't that fond of it either (Cinemascore of D, RT user rating at 21%, IM Db of 5.2 right now - but that's going down fast), it's on track to bomb ($30 million gross so far, $35 million budget) and what makes it even worse is that the talent is second to none, including a director of two fantastic films and Michael Fassbender in the lead role.
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It is also being discussed here
When it's released on DVD, should Diary Of A Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul be on here with only a 19% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 3.7 on IMBD.
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Seems valid. Jem and the Holograms is also here, and it has similar ratings.
Should Sean Mac Namara really be in the Repeat Offenders list? He has two movies that qualify and a whole lot of stuff that, while entirely not my bag, doesn't seem to qualify at all.
I'm probably gonna get shouted at for this, but Fifty Shades Darker.
Now, NOW- Please, hear me out a moment.
Fifty Shades Of Grey, the first film adaptation got a 25% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Which, you know, is real bad, but not quite at the level we're looking for.
F Ifty Shades Darker got a 9%. Now, Reviews Are the Gospel isn't something we should hang on our flag... but still.
That's quite a drop.
The only issue would be fan reaction. And I'm scared to look for those, but for what it's worth, the user score is more favourable for Darker than Grey.
Then again, less people have voted on Darker, which is its own measure.
And, of course, it made money. A lot of money. Which, again, is its own measure.
I think it's a contender, but it's something I understand would be very controversial. I mean, most of the site hates the books, but we don't wanna be seen as picking on something in particular.
I think I've gone on enough. Please don't hate me for suggesting this.
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Gotta wait for some time to see if it builds any kind of following. Generally, we shouldn't be adding anything before we can look at DVD/download sales anyway.
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I think as long as you note that the films are extremely divisive and that a notable number of people had the opposite reaction, it's fine. The Fifty Shades series is absolutely considered SBIH by a very large chunk of filmgoers.
Seems valid. It has only 20% with critics and 36% with audiences on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 4.3 rating on IMDB.
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About Hillary's America, I would think it shouldn't qualify, because, like it or not, it is going to find an audience. "It has to fail to appeal even to that niche to qualify here." Can't base it solely on critics' opinions.
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I agree. I hate the movie too but the film is positively reviewed by conservative audiences, so it shouldn't be here.
Does anyone think that Mother's Day would count as a horrible example? Here are my important points to bring up.
- 1. The film holds a 7% on Rotten Tomatoes and an 11 on Metacritic. The consensus is that the film falls far short of its expectations.
- 2. The film is nominated for two Razzies.
- 3. This was the final film directed by Garry Marshall, who died three months after its release.
Why was the quote at the start of the page changed? I think the Cinema Snob quote fits better because it could apply to any bad movie, while the Nostalgia Critic example only fits with just one movie. A really bad movie, but yeah.
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From what I can tell of Phelous' review of Five Across the Eyes, how the movie sounds alone makes it deserve a mention on this page. Nothing but bad camera work and a group of girls that do nothing but babble, scream, and weep every 5 seconds.
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Why are so many people using this for requests? If you want to ask whether it's okay for you to add an entry yourself, that's fine, but otherwise it isn't what this discussion page should be used for.
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Nine Lives is an absolute stinker that deserves to be in this list. I think the film's been discussed before but it hasn't been added yet. Feel free to add it!
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Shut In (2016) could qualify. It has a rating of 0% with critics and 25% with audiences on Rotten Tomatoes, and on Metacritic it has a score of only 22, and it made back only $6.7 million on a $10 million budget.
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Great!
Here's a review of the film, if needed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOlmnIXSIw0
This is not a question of adding or not, but has anyone seen Anne.B,Real? I saw the description on IMDB and it sounded amazingly bad, missing the point of Anne Frank entirely to such a level.
But I have yet to find it online so has anyone seen it and is it as bad as it's position on IMDB bottom 100 says? Does it qualify for the So bad It's Horrible page?
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I haven't seen the film but it's gotten a few decent reviews from critics and it's won awards. At the very least they're doesn't seem to be enough evidence to add this here. Going by user ratings alone is generally a bad idea, especially when dealing with subjects like this.
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Is it possible to put a whole genre of films in this page?
I'm talking about the so-called "cinepanettoni", which are the Italian equivalent of Adam Sandler films, but worse in every way possible: always the same cast, always the same director, always the same old and trite jokes, always focusing on toilet humour, curse words and unfunny slapstick, and they all get released in theatres around christmas every single year. I'm tempted to add some of them, but I'm not sure if to post one single example with a brief description of other works of the genre, or put it under "repeat offenders". What could I do?
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I wouldn't do it. If "cinepanettoni"'s a genre, it's likely that there are enough films of its ilk to create a market for it (hence why it's a genre). And as the important notes say, an entry has to fail even for the genre's fans to qualify.
Feel free to add the worst of the bunch though, especially if they don't appeal to even "cinepanettoni" fans.
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If they're by the same director, putting him on the "Repeat Offenders" section might be best.
I don't think the Atlas Struggled films count. The YMMV page even says that it has a fan-base and was at least somewhat liked by fans of the book. I'd say it's Critical Dissonance more than anything.
Also I agree that someone should add National Lampoon's Dirty Movie to the list.
Would Fun In Balloon Land (this thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cpSYje53H0 ) count, even by 1965's standrads it's horrible. It has a 1.1 on imbd Cinema Snob and Riff Traix ripped it apart, and it's barely even a story it's just a parade of balloons plus the actual story is just a mess.
For your consideration, National Lampoon's Dirty Movie. Much like 2012's notorious Movie 43, it tells the story of a film producer looking to make a movie with the most offensive, dirtiest jokes ever told. Any chance of Dirty Movie being decent is torpedoed by a non-existent plot, immature "jokes" that fall flat, nonsensical writing, and horrid acting. It also has cheap production values (case in point: the actors never change costumes throughout the film).
As far as reviews go, Dirty Movie got a 3.0 on IMDB from 2,627 votes and a 26 Audience score on RT. Given that fans of National Lampoon movies don't even defend this film, I think this movie's a safe bet to be added. In case you need a Caustic Critic review, here's a British person explaining why this film is the worst movie he ever saw.
I added a dummied-out entry for the Turkish film "Code Name: K.O.Z", which is currently on top of the IMDb's Bottom 100. It was hard to find anything in English about the movie, but the consensus is that it's purely propaganda.
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Would 'Cool Cat Saves the Kids' fit here?
Not only the film is horribly written, its author has been suing whoever gives him negative reviews, and has made lots of fake accounts to silence who tries to speak against him. He also used them to give himself positive reviews on IM Db. Also, there is the whole controversy with I Hate Everything.
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The film actually does have a cult following. Even IHE himself admitted the film is So Bad It's Good.
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Does Fant4stic actually belong here? Yes, it was panned and flopped and destroyed careers but calling it Horrible seems a bit... Too much?
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That... sounds appropriate. Did horribly, panned by fan/non-fans/the cast, no fanbase... why wouldn't it apply?
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I thought it was bad in a boring way rather than a horrible way, honestly.
The Amazing Bulk I think would qualify. It has a 2/10 on IMDB and IHE points out how lazy and awful the movie is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE7I5mPHsSU
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Has anyone else heard of this film called Extraction? It looks like it would make a good candidate for the page seeing how it has a pathetic 0% on Rotten Tomatoes and only made an abysmal $16,775 (which looks bad even for a limited release).
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Looks like we may soon have a new addition in the form of Dirty Grandpa. So far it's been widely panned by critics, with a 9% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Richard Roeper said "If Dirty Grandpa isn’t the worst movie of 2016, I have some serious cinematic torture in my near future," whilst Mark Kermode has said "Somewhere in hell there is a multiplex playing this on a double bill, with Movie 43 and Entourage." It's almost universally considered the lowest point of Robert De Niro's career, and threatens to become a Star-Derailing Role for him.
Time will tell...
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Swim To The Moon deleted the following example:
- Ouija was a 2014 "horror" film that was produced by Michael Bay and Hasbro, of all companies. The plot is that a girl named Debbie tries to contact her dead friend via a Ouija board. Instead, she opens a portal that is deadly and will kill her and her friends unless she finds a way to close it. Seems...somewhat creative, but guess what? It's loaded with Jump Scare after annoying Jump Scare (and half the time, it's not even the malevolent forces doing the jumpscaring; it's a member of the main cast!). It's got countless cliches, wooden acting, terrible writing, and worst of all, the "twists" in the movie don't even really make sense when you actually stop and think about it. It ended up with a 7% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 25% audience rating, and a 4.4 on IMDB.
...because the film was a financial success at the box office. Does financial success disqualify it for So Bad Its Horrible, because even though I haven't seen the film, the description above and audience & critical scores seem to indicate it belongs here.
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No, read the first note."Important Note: Merely being offensive in its subject matter, a Box Office Bomb, or a film you don't plain like is not sufficient. Hard as it is to imagine at times, there is a market for all types of deviancy, no matter how small a niche it is. It has to fail to appeal even to that niche to qualify as this. (If you're unsure whether it belongs here or not, visit the discussion page and give us your input. Otherwise, if it's something you just plain don't like, please don't shoehorn it in, this isn't a page for complaining about things that fail to you.)"
And it was a pretty huge success all told, making back its budget twenty times over and having a sequel greenlit.
... that said, I'd bet good money the sequel is going to bomb.
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Is it still too early to put "Fantastic 4" and "Left Behind (2015)" on this list?
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I think that, at the very least, Fantastic 4 would qualify. It got only a 9% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 4.1 on IMDB, therefore failing critically with both professional critics and average moviegoers, and was one of the biggest box office bombs of the summer, with the director almost immediately disowning the theatrical release of the film. I'd make the entry myself, but as I avoided the movie after the first rush of reviews, it would probably be better for someone who actually did see the movie to do so.
I would personally prefer to wait until the highly likely event when 20th Century Fox announces it's all but done with the franchise, and that Marvel Studios will integrate the characters into their universe. I have a potential written entry here...
The 2015 reboot of Fantastic Four (AKA Fant4stic) was made by 20th Century Fox primarily to hold onto the film rights for the Marvel team and prevent Marvel Studios from making a potential profit off of the characters, but unlike Fox's acclaimed instalments in the X-Men franchise, or Sony's moderately successful Amazing Spider-Man series, it definitely shows here, with shoddy characterisation, poor pacing (the first half of the film is fairly slow, with excessive exposition, whilst the second half is pretty rushed, evidently due to its Troubled Production), and being needlessly Darker and Edgier (for instance, the Thing's catchphrase "It's clobbering time!" is used by Ben Grimm's older brother before abusing his younger sibling). It ended up with a 9% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, a 4.1 on IMDB, and its box office receipts barely exceeded its production budget worldwide.
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I can definitely add to Tolchok's description with more details. I've been following the production of this steaming pile for a while.
Also, the movie was not a mild success by any stretch of the imagination - it was a flop that cost Fox more than $80 million. Keep in mind that the numbers that are published on Box Office Mojo and similar sites account for total sales, and not the cut that is actually given to the company. Theaters get a cut, and it's even steeper overseas.
My brother and I saw the movie in August, and neither of us thought it was terrible. Oh well, majority rules.
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Turns out Fox isn't going ahead with the sequel after all. So what will they do now?
Isn't it a bit early for the Human Centipede 3 ezample to be up? The film came out this past May.
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Can somebody purge all the links to Blip? The website's been defunct for a while now.
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There seems to be an edit war over whether the Identical qualifies for So Bad Its Horrible
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It's not really much of an edit war, but just in case, I don't think a 5 on IMDB with so few votes is enough to save it without any evidence of a niche target audience, cult following or So Bad, It's Good status. Maybe if It gets to a 6, removal can be considered, a since low score on Rotten Tomatoes itself isn't enough to add something if there's evidence that it has some sort of a fanbase (which is why, say, The Boondock Saints would never be here).
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Should we add Winnie-the-Pooh: Blood and Honey? It's bad even by the standards of micro budget slashers. 3% on RT, 16 on Metacritic, and quickly sank to the Letterboxd bottom 10. Not 100, bottom 10.