Fridge Horror My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Discussion

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DynamicDragon
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08:22:46 PM Dec 30th 2012
Okay, who the heck deleted this page?
MrMediaGuy
08:26:24 PM Dec 30th 2012
It might have been Taylorkerekes. See below.
Peteman
08:26:40 PM Dec 30th 2012
edited by Peteman
That is a good question.

If it was, how did he do that, erase the edit history, and lock the page?
MrMediaGuy
08:38:38 PM Dec 30th 2012
edited by MrMediaGuy
Is he an administrator? If not, then I guess it wasn't him then.

Can we make a forum discussion about this?
Peteman
08:39:54 PM Dec 30th 2012
edited by Peteman
Well then, who did and why?
Fighteer
09:00:49 PM Dec 30th 2012
Alega5
09:21:27 PM Dec 30th 2012
Is it going to come back? Because there are actual fridge horror in the show.
Fighteer
10:09:03 PM Dec 30th 2012
edited by Fighteer
We're discussing it in the mod forum and here. And Fridge anything is always subjective. It exists in the minds of the audience, not in the work itself. That people believe it to be "actually in the show" is one of the biggest problems we have with it on the wiki.
MrMediaGuy
09:15:04 AM Jan 2nd 2013
Hooray! I knew we could save this page!
taylorkerekes
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05:39:28 PM Dec 29th 2012
I'm sorry, but this whole Fridge Horror page is ridiculous and needs to be deleted.
MrMediaGuy
05:55:38 PM Dec 29th 2012
No! Don't! We NEED to keep this page! Is there a forum discussion about this?
taylorkerekes
06:32:02 PM Dec 29th 2012
I'm sorry, but it's too upsetting for my eyes.
MrMediaGuy
06:37:36 PM Dec 29th 2012
edited by MrMediaGuy
I think we need to start a forum discussion about this.

Seriously, what's wrong with this page, besides that it's "too upsetting for [your] eyes"?
taylorkerekes
06:42:58 PM Dec 29th 2012
Simply put, like a lot entries that it associates, it basically screams "You shouldn't be enjoying this" vibes which I find to be extremely unacceptable. Therefore, I feel I am acting in this site's best interests, unless you object.

And I know exactly what you're gonna tell me: "If you don't like the Fridge Horror page, then just don't go to it." I just know you're thinking of telling me that.
Peteman
06:47:23 PM Dec 29th 2012
To me, this page is "look at my tenuous WMG I have created!"
MrMediaGuy
06:47:26 PM Dec 29th 2012
edited by MrMediaGuy
Why can't we start a forum discussion? And does this concern just you and you alone? Because if it does, then that's EXACTLY what I'm thinking.

Look, how about we just go through a page cleanup or something, without having to delete the entire page? I mean, it's pretty obvious that this show has some fridge horror, and it needs a page.
taylorkerekes
06:50:02 PM Dec 29th 2012
Well, if that's how you feel, I'll just let it alone, at least for now.
AceOfScarabs
06:51:12 PM Dec 29th 2012
Strongly disagree with cutting.
Lopiny
06:59:18 PM Dec 29th 2012
I also object. As a fridge horror page it's working, and that's the point.
Seraphem
07:02:28 PM Dec 29th 2012
Yo don't like it, don't read it. But if the only reason for cutting it is that you personally don't like some of the entries, yeah that's just ridiculous.
JapaneseTeeth
07:08:28 PM Dec 29th 2012
I disagree with cutting it as well. Unless the page is causing problems (which as far as I know, it isn't) there's no reason to delete it. And it's hardly just complaining either. There probably are some frivolous entries, but at worst it just needs some pruning.
Alega5
05:17:34 PM Dec 30th 2012
Its the Nightmare Fuel all over again.
MrMediaGuy
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05:53:59 PM Nov 17th 2012
Does ANYONE here know how to fix the folders?
Telcontar
12:33:47 AM Nov 18th 2012
Yes — make them smaller. Folders can only hold a certain amount of text and if one goes over that then they all bork. Split the entries into more folers and they'll be able to close.
nirt
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02:19:00 PM Nov 10th 2012
Not regarding the content, but the format: why are the folders never closed or is that just for some viewers? I viewed the formatting in 'edit', but everything seemed normal except for the 'commands' at the most top which I couldn't find anywhere on the 'translated' page.
Peteman
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03:20:35 AM Oct 23rd 2012
Trying to clean up this natterfest:

The original idea seems to be that Rainbow Dash was influenced by Gilda into being a worse person, and the cynical response is that maybe it was the other way around, as RD's friends' recklessness and impulsiveness has gotten worse and that may be because of RD's influence (using mostly the same tenuous line of logic that made RD act like Gilda), whereas RD didn't seem to have that much contact with Gilda, and Gilda, for all her bitchiness, at least tried to maintain a veneer of civility while around RD.

  • One person has interpreted Gilda and Rainbow Dash's relationship like this: Gilda was not really a friend of Dash, but an influence. The sort of person who acts as your friend, but only leads you down a bad path. Consider this...a number of Gilda's bad qualities most likely rubbed off on Dash, making Dash Not So Different from Gilda. In later episodes, Dash seems to act more like a Jerkass and attempts to be a better pony. Is it really just her way, or is it Gilda's way, and she doesn't even know it? Gilda may have caused more damage than anyone can begin to imagine.
    • Given the amount of damage Rainbow Dash does on a semi-regular basis due to her impulsiveness: flies recklessly, often crashing into people and causes property damage, threatens newcomers in the town, heckles free, no-obligation-to-attend shows, tries to leave her friend behind because she's slowing them down rather than respecting her wishes, kicks a giant frikkin' dragon in the face nearly getting her friends killed, nearly kills her oldest friend getting her Cutie Mark, assaults old people when trying to help them even thought they don't want or need help, has animals almost kill themselves competing for the honor of being her pet, abandons her friends in the desert, steals from a hospital, ignores her friend when she is having personal crises, assaults her friend trying to drag her to an event she is completely terrified over, and ruins major national social events. What if it's Rainbow Dash who is the bad influence?
    • Plenty of these examples things isn't just done by Dash. All of the Mane Cast besides Twilight are suspicious of Zecora in "Bridle Gossip" and all of them break into her house, even Twilight. In "Boast Busters", Rarity and Applejack heckled Trixie as well, and Trixie responds by humiliating all three of them. In "Dragonshy", it was Twilight's idea to bring Fluttershy along despite Fluttershy's protests and Dash was right when she said Fluttershy was slowing them down. (Yeah, Fluttershy saved the day in the end but Applejack had to personally tow her up the mountain.) And she thought that assaulting the dragon was the only way to get rid of it, nothing else was working at that point. "The Cutie Mark Chronicals", she was trying to stick up for Fluttershy, it was an accident Fluttershy got knocked off the cloud, which was also done by the two bullies. In "May the best pet win", she held that competition to make sure that her pet could keep up with her. She does that dangerous stuff for fun, so making a contest to test them was actually pretty sensible of her. She told them they could duck out at any point. In "The Last Roundup", Twilight and Fluttershy didn't bother rescuing Rarity and Pinkie either, even if Twilight could have also used her magic and Fluttershy was pulling the cart too. In "Read It And Weep," she had already tried getting it the easy way, but the Doctor ignored her and she didn't want to admit to being an "egghead." Everypony ignored Twilight in "Lesson Zero", same with "A Canterlot Wedding", (and Twilight was totally irrational in both episodes) and Dash was certainly not the only one acting inappropriately in "Sweet and Elite". She was dragged to a boring event for Fluttershy's sake in "Dragon Quest", and was trying to get Fluttershy to join in with everyone else. (If too aggressively, but that doesn't excuse Fluttershy trampling her.) Rainbow Dash really Cant Get Away With Nothing.
      • The point that was being made earlier was that Rainbow Dash does a lot of stupid, reckless things all the time. Why would it be Gilda who caused her to be that way when she doesn't appear to spend all that much time with her, whereas the amount of stupid, reckless things the heroes do seem to have increased since becoming friends with Rainbow Dash?
      • Because if nopony did anything stupid or reckless, then it wouldn't make a very interesting show. The characters all become Fire-Forged Friends during the pilot, but we don't know they haven't gotten into messes before befriending Dash. Several episodes show the [1] others are perfectly capable of causing trouble without it being the fault of Rainbow.
      • While true from a meta sense, the whole "if they didn't do stupid, reckless things, there would be no show" is a terrible argument for why they do these things In-Universe (if I had my major national social event ruined because someone claimed the people watching the show would find it funny, I'd have them committed). Furthermore, this whole line of reasoning stemmed from the possibility of how Gilda turned Rainbow Dash into a worse person, even though she seems to have minimal contact with her (Rarity's "A griffon, how rare" comment and Pinkie not recognizing her species means Gilda doesn't seem to visit much). Meanwhile, the rest do these stupid things and they have much more contact with Rainbow Dash. Maybe it's not that Rainbow Dash is a worse person for meeting Gilda and only isn't like her because she's got her friends as moderating influences, it's that Gilda is a worse person for meeting Rainbow Dash, and became the way she did because she lacked moderating influences.
      • Considering that Rainbow was not too happy with Gilda lashing out at her friends, I disagree that Rainbow Dash is a toxic influence. I think it's possible that they had more of a sisterly relationship then anything- like at first Rainbow looked up to Gilda (since Gilda appears older), but when Gilda and Dash met up again, Gilda turned out to be not as cool as Rainbow thought she was.
      • Rainbow Dash's bad influence in this line of reasoning, which stemmed from counterpoint to a Fridge Horror theorizing that Gilda has permanently corrupted Rainbow Dash into a worse person despite her relatively minimal contact compared to the rest of her friends, is that Rainbow Dash's friends now do stupid, reckless things more often than if they didn't meet her, not that Rainbow Dash makes them more deliberate jackasses (and turned Gilda into someone who would do stupid, reckless things, which eventually graduated into outright malice in the intervening time because she lacked stabilizing influences like Fluttershy. There comes a point where you can't say it was an accident, if you make no effort to stop causing accidents). Really, if Gilda is the one who permanently corrupted Rainbow Dash, then there's a different horror meaning that Rainbow Dash is an easily mutable person with little ability to think for herself, and is still continually influenced by someone whom she likely hadn't had contact with in years before her falling out, has severed contact with since, and only is affected by the behavior that that person deliberately hid around her up until their falling out.
Axquirix
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04:27:40 PM Mar 12th 2012
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The point about how in Applebuck Season, Twilight harvested half the orchard at once, perhaps giving reason to Applejack and Ponyville being so adamant in their "no magic" rules for Winter Wrap Up and the like - so does that mean that, as a pony, you're either a Squishy Wizard, a Fragile Speedster or a Stone Wall Determinator? Makes them seem about equal to me.
SeptimusHeap
04:32:39 PM Mar 12th 2012
How exactly is that relevant to someone else's Fridge Horror moment? This is subjective; just because someone disagrees with someone else's entry he doesn't get to put his objections in.
Axquirix
04:39:50 PM Mar 12th 2012
Fair point, after re-thinking over what the origional point said, I guess I'm sort of backing it up - Earth ponies can be so determined to prove that they can pull their weiht next to their advantaged cousins that they'll exhaust or cripple themselves in the attempt.
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