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1upmushroom
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03:48:39 AM Aug 25th 2014
  • Actually, Word of God states that the baby ghost, Chauncey, was born as a ghost to Neville and Lydia. That could mean that everyone in the house were just born that way.
    • But that gets even worse if you equate being "born dead" with being "stillborn".
    • And it's implied that being born as a ghost is what made Chauncey so powerful. Since none of the other ordinary portrait ghosts are of boss quality, we can probably assume he was the only one in the mansion born dead.
  • Actually, it seems that being "captured" in a painting is not that bad, at least according to Madame Clairvoya, who is the only ghost willing to be put back into her painting and help Luigi find his brother. This is a quote of her last words to Luigi: "This is all I can show you, Luigi... That was the last of my power. But I have given words to what the spirits have shown... so I can return to my painting satisfied. Send me there now, you vacuum-wielding rogue! Ahhhhh! Finally, I can return in peace to my painting... Sweet happiness in oils... I thank you... I thank you, kind Luigi!"
    • Then again, Madame Clairvoya is pretty weird, even by ghost standards, so she might be the only one who thinks that way. After all, the rest of the ghosts don't seem very eager to return to their paintings.

How is this discussion natter? Most of it seems valid and fridge enough.
SeptimusHeap
04:14:56 AM Aug 25th 2014
Well, for one thing it has terrible Example Indentation.
1upmushroom
05:30:11 AM Aug 25th 2014
Ok so, rearrange some of the posts and it's more cohesive. I still don't get how it's natter.
Komodin
10:18:22 PM Aug 25th 2014
It's a blatant Conversation on the Main Page, which is unacceptable even on a "Fridge" page.
Komodin
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05:54:32 AM Oct 3rd 2013
I removed this example from the page:

  • Okay, so, everybody knows about Mario's "dropped items", right? The cap, the shoe, the glove, the star, and the letter to Luigi, warning him about the Boos? And at first glance, they don't really seem like that big a deal. Just another side-quest-type-thingy that you have to do to catch another portrait ghost and beat the game, and they seem to give you some clues about Mario's whereabouts. Okay. But then you actually find Mario later on in the game, and what's this? True, he doesn't have his star or the letter, but he's got his cap, his glove, and his shoe on, so…what's the deal? Isn't he supposed to have dropped those, too? Now, most people, including me, probably saw that the first time and immediately thought, "Oh, well. Nintendo logic.", and forgot about it. But hang on. Let's take another look at that, shall we, and let's really look at it, given what we know so far, because something just doesn't seem right, here, and I want to try and figure out what it is. So, let's take a look at the items, shall we? What are they, exactly, and, more importantly, what is their significance to Mario himself? Well, the cap, the shoe, and the glove are significant to him for obvious reasons. Everybody knows how much Mario loves those particular items, and would never be without them unless something really bad had happened to him. Now, what about the star? Isn't that an Invincibility Star? And, if so, what does Mario use those for, again? And what would it mean if he didn't have access to one when he needed it? Hmm… Now what about the letter? Obviously, that would be important to him because it's a warning to his brother, evidently written in quite a hurry, to stay away from these dangerous ghosts. But hang on. If Mario shows up to the mansion and enters it, only to be ambushed by a mob of ghosts, and as a result, he drops a whole big bunch of stuff that's never touched until Luigi shows up, wouldn't it then logically follow that all of these items would be found scattered all over the floor, relatively close to one another? But where did we find these things, again? The letter was HIDDEN in a birdhouse, the star was HIDDEN in some sort of weird room, the glove was HIDDEN in the Projection Room, and the shoe was-guess what-HIDDEN in the twins' room! Now, how in the world could Mario have gotten to all these places, and more importantly, why? Why would he hide stuff like that in those places, especially the letter and the Invincibility Star, considering what purposes they serve? Now, let's take a look at where the cap was hidden: in the washing machine, and what's this? It looks like it's been freshly washed. Why? At first it makes no sense, but then you realize that you've seen this before. What about all those cop shows like CSI? When there's a missing person in one of those shows, which Mario is in the game, and the police are searching the house of the person who they believe is responsible for it, which is essentially what you're doing as Luigi in the game, and they find an article of said missing person's clothing in the suspect's washing machine, and it appears to have been cleaned recently, what red flag automatically goes up? Now, let's take into account what we know about King Boo so far. First of all, he has a deep hatred for the Mario Bros., obviously, and he also loves to scare and toy with his opponents. He has the ability to materialize things, including highly detailed mansions and life-like robotic replicas of Mario enemies, which he loves to make as scary as possible. He even has a title as master of illusions. Now, to really drive it home, let's take a look at this from Luigi's point of view. You think you've won a mansion in a contest, and so you show up only to find out that it's haunted, and the ghosts inside have captured your brother, and you have absolutely no idea what they've done with him. No idea. So, you catch a bunch of ghosts and whoops! You accidentally release the ghosts who took your brother, and they waste no time in telling you that they're going to do to you what they did to him, only worse. Then, as the night goes on, you begin finding things that were obviously hidden, two of them being items of clothing you know he would never be without unless something horrible had happened. You also find a letter to you written by your missing brother to watch out for these dangerous ghosts that got him, and because the writing is so rushed, you know he knew something was about to happen to him. Then, you find something that could help your brother become invincible, but you found it, so obviously he didn't have a chance to use it, which means he's vulnerable. As if that weren't enough, you find his lucky cap that he's worn since birth in his captors' washing machine, and it looks to have been cleaned recently, but why would his enemies do his laundry unless there was something on it that they were trying to get rid of? So, once you get to looking at all of this and taking it into account, it doesn't really take much to put two and two together and realize what "Mario's dropped items" really are, and why and how they came to be where they are, and all it took was a trip to the fridge.

It may be a valid example, but it's basically a wall of text. If you want to add it back, make it briefer.
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