Flanderization Live Action TV Discussion

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Morgenthaler
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07:29:34 AM Mar 31st 2016
Per an ATT discussion, it was deemed that "inversions" of Flanderization aren't really a thing, though they could possible be an example of Character Development (which is an Omnipresent Trope, thus requiring no examples) or possibly Hidden Depths. I'm posting these examples here in case anyone wants to salvage them.

Big Bang Theory:

  • An inversion of this trope is done in the Whole Episode Flashback to when Leonard and Sheldon first met. The Sheldon of the series has all sorts of quirks but still makes awkward attempts at social interaction and understanding how normal people think, the Sheldon of the flashback was basically a flanderization of his current personality where his Control Freak and Insufferable Genius mannerisms were about all he was. While not really elaborated upon, it's suggested that being friends with Leonard is the reason Sheldon of today is even remotely workable.
  • Inverted with Amy. Initially she's just as socially awkward, robotic and autistic as Sheldon, if not even more so, but by the time she becomes Sheldon's girlfriend in the middle of Season 5 a large part of that has been dropped and she's become much more normal.
    • Also inverted with Penny, for that matter. In the first couple of seasons, Penny's typical wardrobe was heavy on cleavage, midriff and short shorts/skirts. She was constantly seen with stereotypically handsome jock-types who would only be seen once or twice, and was pretty open about her less-than-virginal ways. She also had little patience for the nerdier qualities of her friends, and often wondered why she hangs out with them. As the series has gone on, her outfits, while still attractive, have undergone some lengthening in the leg and are overall more practical. She also, even after her initial break-up with Leonard, became progressively less shallow with men, and also seemed to indulge in a little nerdiness herself, even if she still occasionally pretends to be above it all.

Scrubs

  • Weirdly enough, the Janitor was kind of an inversion (similar to Jim from The Office). He started out existing entirely to torment JD, but as the show went on, he got more dimensions and by the final season was fully characterized enough to have girlfriend and get married. He still never missed an opportunity to torment JD, but it was in support of a complete character instead of his only character trait.

Doctor Who

  • Inverted by the Seventh Doctor, who started out intended as a relatively flat character as a reaction against the unpopular Hurting Hero Jerkass with a Heart of Gold antics of the Sixth Doctor. He then suddenly started in a more complicated and nuanced direction, and by the time the series was cancelled and the character moved to books he spiralled into one of the most subtly characterised Doctors ever.

Drake and Josh

Frasier

  • Inverted in the case of his brother Niles, originally an exaggerated version of Frasier who later acquired personality traits that were radically different from Frasier's and dropped several of Frasier's qualities, such as pompousness and overconfidence, making him far more well-rounded than he was in the first season.

The George Lopez Show

House

  • Inverted by House's team, especially the main three from earlier seasons. They started out very roughly drawn and two dimensional but got much more complex and interesting as the show went on.

Sabrina the Teenage Witch

  • Inverted with Roxie. In her Season 5 introduction she is a one-dimensional Deadpan Snarker. In the next two seasons she has Hidden Depths revealed and comes across as a realistic person by the end of the show.

JennyHaniver
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09:50:23 AM Aug 21st 2014
The Supernatural example section is extremely long and seems to be full of natter. Does anyone think all that conversation is necessary, or can some of the triple-indention points be deleted?
SeptimusHeap
01:21:27 AM Aug 22nd 2014
I did remove the lot of that - a lot of entries were contradicted on the page or looked like "character changes, period".
OldManHoOh
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05:14:49 PM Aug 28th 2012
  • Mohinder, from the NBC show "Heroes", begins the series with a light Indian accent. As the show progress, his accent becomes increasingly most noticeable.
    • It also goes from Indian to British.

Really? It's been forever since I've seen Heroes, but I'm sure it became British before the first season ended.
josephripken
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08:02:31 AM Dec 16th 2011
I don't believe the Angel example is correct. It seems to be Characterization Marches On, not Flandarization. I'll give one week for responses, after which I will move it to that page if no one defends it.
coopcooperberg
04:50:21 PM Mar 15th 2012
I think it's safe to edit Community's Pierce as in the third season, his meaniness has toned down quite a bit. He's probably now half season 1 Pierce, half season 2 Pierce.
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