Five Man Band Western Animation A-M Discussion

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07:43:47 AM Aug 12th 2013
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How about this for Dreamworks Dragons:

Hiccup is the Leader since he organized the group and is the one well-versed in dragon training

Astrid is the Lancer AND Chick since she's the only other level-headed character in the group and is a girl, as well as the love interest to Hiccup

Fishlegs is the Smart Guy since he's the one that informs everyone about a new dragon as well as what their abilities are

Snotlout is the Big Guy since the title speaks for itself, he's generally the big-headed muscle of the group

Ruffnut and Tuffnut are the Tagalongs because there was no other place to put them and 9 times out of 10 they're always getting in trouble

The Dragons are Team Pet is optional since they are the pets of the group and are used in battle by them.
12:33:25 PM Apr 22nd 2013
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Why does the Dungeons & Dragons example count? It's my understanding that there needs to be five characters—no more and no less. Also, should The Mentor really count in Five Man Bands? or is that specific to this example since he's the kids' DM (technically being a part of the team)?
12:13:11 PM Mar 15th 2012
edited by RTanker
Cut this:
||The Hero / The Smart Guy||Twilight Sparkle||
||The Lancer||Pinkie Pie or Spike||
||The Big Guy||Applejack and Rainbow Dash||
||The Chick||Rarity and Fluttershy||
||The Mentor||Princess Celestia||
Because it really just doesn't fit the trope. You've got one character who is both The Hero and The Smart Guy, two lancers—neither of whom really fits the trope, but just didn't fit elsewhere—two Big Guys, and two chicks. All in a cast with six or at most seven main characters. And The Mentor, which is not part of the Five-Man Band, has been added just to fill out the number to five. This is a classic case of Square Peg Round Trope. Yes, granted, there are plenty of valid examples that are imperfect, but still fit pretty well. This example just doesn't fit at all.

To put it another way, just because there are characters who fit individual tropes within the Five-Man Band doesn't mean the ensemble as whole does. Twilight is both The Hero and The Smart Guy. Fluttershy and Rarity both fit The Chick. The ensemble as a whole, however, is not a Five Pony Band.
09:55:11 AM Apr 8th 2012
edited by Truro
The Lancer= The hero's foil and trusted companion. In in other words, Spike. I don't see where you could get the idea of him not fitting it.
01:11:10 PM May 25th 2012
You have a point, Truro, but while Spike may be The Lancer relative to Twilight, he is not necessarily The Lancer of the group: he is really only an ancillary member of the cast, and does not, for example, usually accompany the main six on all their adventures, etc. To be The Lancer within a Five-Man Band, a character really does have to be an integral part of the band.
04:23:55 PM Aug 3rd 2012
I think Rainbow Dash is better suited for the lancer while Spike is a Tagalong Kid.
02:11:05 AM Aug 4th 2012
There isn't a Five-Man Band here, though I agree with Spike being a Tagalong Kid.
09:28:06 AM Dec 16th 2012
Um, no. Rainbow Dash is NOT The Lancer. She and Twilight don't have that sort of character dynamic.
11:21:32 AM Apr 29th 2011
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For "Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths" there was a tweaking to the FMB:

The Hero: Superman, Good Lex Luthor (both also become Lancers against Ultraman, depending on who's got him first).

The Lancer: Batman mostly, with the Jester being Good Lex's. (In the final fight against Owlman aka "Dragon in Chief," Batman gets promoted to The Hero against Owlman.)

The Smart Guy: Batman again, with Martian Manhunter seconding.

The Big Guy: Green Lantern and Wonder Woman.

The Chick: Flash (because he's also the Heart, Batman's not eager to sacrifice him—and Johnny Quick steps up to take the shot for them.)

06:55:23 PM Feb 25th 2013
Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers (obscure 80's toon, but VERY good)

Most of the time, it had a 4-person main cast, but the writers never made it a hard and fast rule, espcially as the show had Loadsand Loads Ofcharacters

The Hero: Zachary Foxx (Captain of the team, his story is what kicks off the whole Myth Arc)

The Lancer: Shane Gooseman (pretty much Zach's foil and counterpart on every level from age to degree of Cowboy Cop, Ensemble Darkhorse extraordinarre)

The Smart Guy: Dr. Walter Hartford (with Niko occasionally subbing for him). Ph.D. in AI psychiatry, possibly the best Playful Hacker in the show's setting. Also a Cultured Badass who can dance and swordfight if he needs to. His Agent Peacock tendencies and soft spot for robots and artificial intelligences will sometimes make him a backup "chick"

The Chick: Niko (with Doc occasionally subbing for her). She's the female character, the one who fights with psychic abilities, and often the one doing the calming and reassuring in a tight spot. Her archeology and natural sciences training makes her a backup Smart Guy if Doc's not in the picture or playing the Chick role.

Kid-Appeal Character: Buzzwang. In the episodes he's in, the tends to be The Scrappy, too.

The Sixth Ranger: Zozo and Waldo are a unit when they appear together, but Zozo is often this by himself in episodes when Waldo is off elsewhere.
05:02:42 PM Mar 23rd 2013
edited by Vir
The Fairly Oddparents (as of 2013)
10:16:46 AM Apr 19th 2014
As the Only Sane Fairy, Wanda could also double as The Smart Girl.