Film Iron Man Discussion

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08:44:26 AM Nov 7th 2013
What's this about Tony going Transhuman in 3? He put sensor doohickeys in his arm so he could signal the suit to fly to him, but does that really count?
04:50:21 PM Jan 19th 2013
Whoa, meta! Check this out! Reviewers are reading TV Tropes when they write reviews!
12:45:51 AM Oct 26th 2012
Moved the first Iron Man film to Iron Man. And suddenly I am getting an urge to instead rename it Iron Man again and name the overall film page Iron Man Trilogy. Not sure about going ahead with it, however. Thoughts?
05:59:51 AM Oct 26th 2012
edited by ashlay
What if there's another Iron Man 1 in 5 years? something to consider anyway. transfer's complete, so no rush.

And don't do trilogy. No one's said this franchise is only going to be 3 films. Also tabs up top won't work. And you'll have to change ~1000 links.
05:50:46 PM Oct 10th 2013
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I thought pages for series and such were put under Franchise/TitleOfTheFranchise

There's going to be a lot of people accidentally linking the series page when they mean to link the first film.
10:17:05 AM Oct 23rd 2012
Question that I mentioned on the main page in an edit comment: Why does only the third movie have its own page? Should people start to shift it out to the other films as well? Like "Iron Man 1", "Iron Man 2", and "Iron Man 3" pages, and a central "Iron Man" page for all of them. Or just an Iron Man 2 page, or shifting the 3 stuff back to the main one.

What do you guys think?
11:38:46 AM Oct 23rd 2012
I was thinking the same thing. Why would Iron Man 3 have a separate page? Are we trying to imply what Marvel said about Iron Man 3 being different than the earlier two movies. I would like it if Iron Man 3 became part of the main Iron Man page. All in one place.
01:12:25 PM Oct 23rd 2012
Agreed. Can someone move it over and mark off the other page as gone? I'm not sure how to do the latter.

Yes, there's a trailer for 3, and the second phase films all have their own pages. Iron Man, for some reason, didn't, and the other films are FILMS, not trailers, and are together.
06:15:02 AM Oct 25th 2012
all divided now.
02:20:53 PM May 13th 2012
A man who is stronger than iron.
03:44:48 PM Mar 22nd 2012
So, should we start adding some of the rumors filtering out for the next movie?
06:00:16 PM Jan 21st 2012
So does anyone know what Tony's drinking in the second movie, while trying to hold back his palladium poisoning? Blended seaweed or algae? Liquified bean sprouts? Chlorophyll?
10:11:08 PM Jan 9th 2012
What is up with calling the bird a "burd"?
07:48:57 AM Jan 10th 2012
Because that's roughly how Ivan pronounces it with the accent, or at least how it's been memetically mutated.
11:23:55 PM Aug 3rd 2011
Is there a Hypocritical Bitch trope? Because Natasha would qualify for it in spades. Before his birthday party, she was fully aware of the fact he's dieing but encourages him to act like it's his last night on Earth, then at the end has the nerve to criticize his behavior in her little evaluation report. Say it with me now, B-I-T-C-H.
12:40:58 AM Aug 4th 2011
Hypocrite is a trope I think.
07:13:07 AM Aug 4th 2011
No, we don't put on tropes just so you can call a character a bitch.

Also, you're missing the point. Telling him to act like it's his last night was a test. A test he failed. He could have spent his "last night" doing something good, like being with his good friends, or making sure his tech is in good hands, but instead he gets shitfaced and throws a huge party which endangers pretty much everyone at it.
07:40:24 PM Aug 4th 2011
His behavior up to that point suggests he wasn't all that interested in taking the high road anyway, what reason would she have to expect a sudden turn around when she goads him on with a statement dripping with innuendo? It's like for that scene she completely forgets everything about the person she's talking to.
06:55:36 AM Aug 5th 2011
She's an agent of SHIELD. One specifically ordered to keep an eye on Stark and evaluate him for the Avengers Initiative. She's not just some random woman who's doing this on her own.

Again, she is testing him. Just because his behavior up to that point suggests something doesn't mean you don't do the tests. It's a What You Are in the Dark moment, plain and simple.
10:10:19 PM Jan 9th 2012
edited by Statalyzer
She didn't exactly encourage what he specifically did.
05:21:14 PM May 7th 2011
Would anyone happen to have a link to download Rhody's ringtone for Tony?
11:37:54 AM Feb 25th 2011
I have no idea as to the accuracy to modern tanks, so I thought I should put this here first: anyone else think the tank hitting the man-sized fast-moving flying object in the first movie with one shot falls under Improbable Aiming Skills?
08:37:30 AM Oct 14th 2010
Attention Deficit... Ooh, Shiny! Anyone else think Tony displays classic ADD behavior? He can't seem to focus on mundane things, he's constantly rambling and moving around. A better portrayal than usual for Hollywood though.
11:35:08 AM Oct 14th 2010
08:57:17 AM Oct 4th 2010
Okay, so, anyone know why neither of these movies are on any of the premium movie channels?
02:28:39 AM Jul 16th 2010
On Stark being his own guinea pig: It's implied in the first movie and outright stated in the novelization that Tony went to Rhodey to ask him to be the test pilot. Explains the "What about a pilot without the plane?" line nicely.
09:34:51 PM Jul 17th 2010
Also, I'm not sure how being his own guinea pig makes him an anti-hero. Wouldn't saying "I'm too important to test on myself" and getting other people to do the dangerous testing for him be more in line with the trope?
01:48:17 AM Jun 14th 2010
Out of curiosity, why is the page locked? It's not on the lock list and I don't see any edit wars in the history.
11:44:25 AM Jun 13th 2010
Trope identification help: we know that Whiplash is the name of the villain in the sequel. In the first movie, Iron Man is engaged by a flight of two F-22s as he's coming back from blowing up the terrorist compound. The mission name of the F-22s that try to shoot him down are Whiplash 1 and Whiplash 2. (Whiplash 1 is the one that gets its wing destroyed when Iron Man is shaken off of Whiplash 2, Whiplash 2 is the one that gets the most hits on Iron Man)

Also, add a Barrier Busting Blow: Iron Man pulls one against the terrorist leader. After seeing his flunkies obliterated, the leader takes cover behind a concrete wall and tries to call for help on a noisy satellite phone. Instead of going around the wall, Iron Man goes for the drama and first punches through the wall then pulls the terrorist leader through the resulting hole.
02:59:32 AM May 20th 2010

Can we use this as a trope for the series? My argument for it is below but if someone disagrees please say. I'm trying to prevent an edit war.

I think that we can call those characters Badass Normals when you consider that we know they share a universe with characters like The Hulk and literal magic using Gods. This tells us in the movie Marvel Universe, Tony, Rhodey and Natasha are badass normals if they work with SHIELD and are being considered for the Avengers. The film heavily implies that Fury is dealing with all sorts of super-human related things in addition to just Tony which further suggests that they are out of their depth in terms of powers etc.
03:27:04 PM May 17th 2010
edited by MCE
Probably a Call Back but I'm not sure of the exactly line.
Stark: No, you can't come in this one, the is the fun-vee, the humdrum-vee is back there.

(After finding stark wandering the desert) Starks military friend: Hows the fun-vee?
03:56:21 PM May 17th 2010
edited by beeftony
Rhodes: How was the Fun-Vee? Next time, you ride with me.
11:28:06 AM Jun 13th 2010
Might be a Brick Joke.
09:39:32 PM Dec 26th 2010
Or even an Ironic Echo.
12:08:43 AM May 13th 2010
  • Narm: The scene of Vanko laughing wickedly while getting dragged off the racetrack is deflated some what when you notice his shoe slipping off.

... I'm sorry, but the scene is deflated because his shoe is coming off? The man's just had the crap kicked out of him by a guy in Powered Armor, and he still has the cast-iron balls to laugh about it, and the impact is lessened because his shoe is coming off?! Have our standards for Narm really dipped this low?
09:54:51 AM May 13th 2010
I don't really consider the shoe thing to be Narm as that never really struck me as diminishing the impact, considering the circumstances. However, the first scene of the film where Anton Vanko dies did lead to a such a moment when Ivan threw his head in the air and, screamed...I think. It seemed pretty over the top to me, even given the circumstances, just one step up above falling on your knees and shouting NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
04:01:54 AM May 14th 2010
That's because Ivan Vanko doesn't cry. He yells to scare the sadness away.

Still pretty Narmy, though.
03:48:15 PM May 9th 2010
edited by TheDeceiver
What constitutes a spoiler for the first movie now that the second movie is out? I mean, it was a twist at the end of Iron Man that he outed himself (as a superhero), but that's pretty central to the plot of the sequel. And you see Nick Fury in the trailer for 2, so it's not so much a secret anymore that both he and S.H.E.I.L.D. are involved.

  • I think it's perfectly acceptable to list these facts under You Should Know This Already and unmask the spoilers. Obadiah Stane's villainy, however, should stay hidden.
12:54:48 AM May 10th 2010
There are still people who haven't seen either film and want to read up on them first before they go see them. The spoilers should stay up for the sake of those people.
01:52:43 PM May 10th 2010
If you were concerned about spoilers, you wouldn't be checking out what tropes were in the movie before you saw it. Kinda defeats the purpose.
09:58:36 AM May 13th 2010
edited by WillLorus
Don't some of the trailers to the first film show Obadiah in armour anyway? There's certainly a scene where he visits the leader of the Ten Rings. Obadiah's villainy is pretty obvious from the trailers, if I recall correctly, so should such things remain hidden by spoilers? Not to mention the fact that all comic readers immediately know from the name where things are going.
04:05:28 AM May 14th 2010
By that logic, why have spoilers at all? Oh, wait, because some people like researching what a movie is basically about before seeing it. Major plot twists deserve to be put in spoilers. General information does not.
07:17:28 AM May 16th 2010
I agree that general information does not need to be put in spoilers. I'm saying that if you were to research the film say, by watching the trailer, it would be fairly obvious that Obadiah was a villain. It seems fairly obvious early on in the movie as well, at least that's how it appeared to me. The reveal that he was a villain doesn't come as a major plot twist and the film is not ruined by finding out beforehand. The film is about Tony and his journey, that still remains in tact and unspoiled. Your Mileage May Vary though.
01:48:25 PM May 16th 2010
I remember being surprised when I first saw the film. It's not that obvious to everybody.
03:15:30 AM May 1st 2010
Would it make sense to split the tropes list into "The first movie contains examples of" and "The second movie contains examples of"?

Of is there too much overlap?
03:25:23 AM May 1st 2010
I imagine if we only list tropes that apply to the second movie (but not the first), in the second movie section it would avoid overlap.
10:02:36 AM May 13th 2010
This makes me wonder if the whole page should be changed into something like 'Iron Man Trilogy' or something similar. The title of Iron Man could fool people into thinking this is more about the first film than the second and they could ruin the film for themselves. There is a warning on the page but the title seems to get more attention.
08:55:58 PM Jun 21st 2010
So I was really bored one afternoon and separated all of the tropes on this page into examples found in the first film, the second film, and finally ones that are used in both. I didn't change a single word, just the order, but I haven't applied the changes since it would alter the page so drastically.

With the permission of my fellow tropers I would like to go ahead and apply the changes, but if you guys don't think it's a good idea then no harm no foul and I just wasted an hour one afternoon. What do you guys think?
09:20:01 PM Jun 21st 2010
Go for it.

Our kind of crazy.
01:48:17 PM Oct 8th 2010
Whoever put it into folders, thank you. Thank you so much.
10:16:04 AM Oct 23rd 2012
edited by Gregzilla
(Made a mistake, was making a new comment. This can be ignored.)
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