Film Interstellar Discussion

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itak365
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07:21:45 PM Apr 22nd 2015
I think it's heavily implied Donald is a Millenial born in the late 1990's or early-2000's. It's really interesting to see our generation portrayed as the elderly in more futuristic movies.
pittsburghmuggle
03:20:57 AM Apr 23rd 2015
edited by pittsburghmuggle
Your generation. This Gen X'er is starting to feel long in the tooth.
Larkmarn
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11:26:12 AM Mar 16th 2015
Random question... was this movie supposed to be named Gravity at some point in its lifecycle? I haven't found anything stating that (mostly since Googling "interstellar" and "gravity" is kind of a hopeless dream) but the movie made me really feel like that was its name at some point in developmen.
basskuroi
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01:37:49 PM Jan 29th 2015
Idiot Ball and Informed Attribute : Mann cut communication with Cooper and Brand, maybe suspecting a distraction manoeuvre. That would inply that it wasn't a idiotic error and would not subvert the informed attribute of Mann being the best astronaut.
monkapotomous
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08:36:24 AM Nov 23rd 2014
So I'm wondering why no one bas posted how the scene in the tesseract is an example of And I Must Scream? Admittedly it is only temporary but he is clearly seriously disturbed by watching himself and screams at the top of his lungs in a futile attempt to communicate. He does learn how shortly after, but a momentary example I would say.
Fireblood
01:51:32 PM Nov 29th 2014
If you think it was an example, then add it.
idn_82
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02:03:12 AM Nov 20th 2014
edited by 80.86.167.100
"Days of Future Past: The Crapsack World mentioned above is in many ways the Dust Bowl and Great Depression of the 1930s on a global scale."

That's a curious way to put it... the Great Depression of the 1930s DID happen on a global scale (and it arguably led to the rise of Hitler and hence the outbreak of WWII among other things).
DSL
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09:06:06 PM Nov 13th 2014
Fridge Logic, maybe? The Ranger is shown as able to lift off and climb to space on its own — under crisis conditions from the surface of a planet with more than twice earth's surface gravity — but is shown as requiring what looks like a Saturn V to get to Endurance, waiting in low earth orbit.
crazyrabbits
09:09:36 AM Nov 17th 2014
Fridge examples aren't tropes. Please don't add them to main or YMMV pages.
SeptimusHeap
09:56:39 AM Nov 17th 2014
They can be added to YMMV pages, actually.
ThundergryphoN
03:04:14 AM Nov 25th 2014
I see this as fridge brilliance or a shown their work - By using the booster stages to get to orbit at the start of the mission, the Ranger is able to save all or most of its fuel load for visiting the destination planets and (potentially, as it isn't shown) carry additional cargo to the Endurance that would be subsequently unloaded.
AnotherWanderingGhost
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07:29:22 PM Nov 12th 2014
As I understand it, Go Mad from the Isolation refers to actually "going mad", like Mann, or at least (from the page) depression, hallucinations, inability to function normally in society, terrible dreams, etc. I do not think Romilly's stiff behavior is worth mentioning under this. (I actually had him as an aversion, but I'll concede he may not be that.) A referendum here is more productive than an edit war with Captain Crawdad, so what say anyone else?
eroock
01:36:37 PM Dec 21st 2014
I am with you on Romilly. He actually seems to have turned tranquil over those 23 years.
v2
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01:22:10 PM Nov 10th 2014
Woah, I was eating breakfast and was wondering "if the 5th Dinemsional Aliens knew how urgent Earth's situation was, why the hell would they add 2 years to the mission by building the wormhole aaallll the way at Saturn, of all places?"

Wikipedia: Saturn, the Roman god of agriculture.
CaptainCrawdad
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10:58:29 AM Nov 10th 2014
edited by 23.251.209.238
Removed:

  • Shout-Out:
    • The narration used in the trailer and shots make it look like Nolan is paying Homage to Terrence Malick (one of Nolan's inspirations for filmmaking).
    • The first scene features a recollection of the current day dust storm is reminiscent of how John Steinbeck described the 1930 Dust Bowl in the first chapter of The Grapes of Wrath.
    • The shot of the NASA base when Cooper first finds it is the same composition and set-up as the Cheyenne Mountain exterior shots from Stargate SG-1.
    • The cylindrical layout of Cooper Station may somewhat remind viewers of one of Nolan's previous films, as well as the O'Neill Cylinder colonies from the Universal Century.

None of these look like strong contenders for Shout Outs.
  • This might be an homage, but it's also just narration. What specifically makes it link to Malick?
  • The film is obviously referencing the Dust Bowl, but I don't see anything specifically about Grapes of Wrath.
  • This sounds strong, but I find it highly doubtful that Nolan is deliberately referencing Stargate SG-1. Can someone confirm that it's the exact same set-up, and if so that Stargate didn't take this from something earlier?
  • Space stations are cylindrical for gravity. The shape itself isn't a reference to anything.
eroock
01:38:03 PM Dec 21st 2014
Agreed
StormKensho
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01:07:36 AM Nov 9th 2014
I found this movie funny, in a way, as it can serve as a great example of just why GMO food products are needed. The blight that wipes out the majority of food crops in the world(leaving humanity with corn as their main staple, instead of wheat, and a sparse few other viable crops) would be one of the first things GM Os would be immunized to through genetic engineering.
Zanraptora
08:40:35 PM Nov 15th 2014
That's not how that works. GMO's are less resistant to blights because of Monoculture.

Yes, they resist disease better, but if they are overwhelmed by a disease, there's no chance for the survival of the crop: When you have a variety of crops, their differences can buffer the lethality of a blight.

Granted, that's just a case for having diversity in the crop: All the crops could still be GMO's if they are sufficiently differentiated.
WingedCat
01:38:43 AM Mar 11th 2017
edited by WingedCat
StormKenshio appears to be saying that, once the blight was detected, GMOs would be introduced that were resistant or immune to the blight. (They may become monocultures that another blight could overwhelm, but variations of the original blight are unlikely to adapt.) This is similar to what has happened with Ug99. Though in a way, this itself is the "variety of crops" advantage - just, most of the (potential) crops do not actually exist at any one time.

On that note, I have moved the "this blight is totally realistic" spiel to YMMV, since there is quite a bit of reason to doubt it could happen.
WingedCat
07:53:50 PM Mar 13th 2017
And apparently there is disagreement. So! Is this Reality Is Unrealistic, Artistic License – Biology, or something else? And does it go on the main page or, because there is disagreement, YMMV (which apparently neither Reality Is Unrealistic nor Artistic License – Biology are allowed on)?
MyFinalEdits
09:12:58 PM Mar 13th 2017
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I got the chance to watch the movie again recently (it was my fourth watch [^~^]), and got to see various comments on the blight accuracy through the web (I omitted Mr. Krauss's analysis, though, because he's just biased negatively against the film as he hated it).

The average take for what I've seen is that, while theoretically a blight of that nature could exist on a moderate scale (a state or a country), it's implausible that it would occur on a planetary scale. Here's an excerpt I found in a science forum:

Nitrogen is an inert gas and thus no organism can "breathe" it to make energy. However what can happen is that the organisms might be converting nitrogen to other compounds (the movie doesn't explain this). Also no organism can have a major effect in such a short term on atmospheric levels of nitrogen or oxygen but it is possible that other gases are created out of nitrogen. Blights usually only attack one species and cannot cross species, Blights which cross species are usually not very harmful.

On The science of Interstellar: fact or fiction?, the blight scenario is labelled as unlikely:

“Without chloroplasts a plant will die. Now suppose that some new pathogen evolves , for example in the oceans, that wipes out all algae and plant life in the oceans and jumps to land where it wipes out all land plants. [...] This is possible. I see nothing to prevent it. But it’s not very plausible. It is unlikely to even happen.”

Finally, from this article:

In conclusion, the chance of the Blight attacking the Earth is ultimately small. I believe that we should not believe a film entirely without researching the films’ facts first. Our environment is maybe getting worst, but technological developments are always invented simultaneously. Of course, we should not fully rely on the scientists out there either. Though the chance is small, we people should begin to learn how important a good condition of our environment is. Conserve our environment, and we will preserve our lives.


All things considered, I would identify the entry as Artistic License – Biology, more because of the many factors that have to occur at the same time for it to happen than anything. And in a world as variable and changing as this it's near-impossible to have that scenario.
WingedCat
10:17:24 PM Mar 20th 2017
I, too, would identify it as Artistic License – Biology, not only for the reasons stated above but because the world's response in the movie is one long Idiot Plot. Keep growing the same crops the blight is infecting instead of trying different crops? Grow everything outdoors instead of keeping crops in (large) greenhouses that might possibly be quarantined (a variant of which later worked, except the "greenhouses" were spaceships)? Force the people who might possibly cure the blight to go farm instead?

All of this on top of the extreme unlikeliness of this blight in the first place.
MyFinalEdits
10:27:43 PM Mar 20th 2017
I'm proceeding to change the example's trope identity, and explain why in the edit reason.
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