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Unknownlight
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08:20:39 PM Mar 14th 2014
As per the discussion in Ask the Tropers, should Armor Is Useless be removed or not? I personally don't see how the trope applies.
Spirit
08:58:23 PM Mar 14th 2014
edited by 71.65.105.187
I say yes for removal. The point of the trope is that, as the name states, armor offers no notable protection when compared to being unarmored. The example cites the Steel Rangers, yet the story makes a point to emphasize how much more difficult they are to deal with due to their armor providing increased protection compared to lesser armored foes.
Kkatman
09:00:50 PM Mar 14th 2014
A vote yes for removal.

As mentioned before: there are many times when protective armor is portrayed as being the decisive factor. Moreso, the magical shields used by one faction within the story are considered one of their most terrifying advantages, and the characters are often required to go to great lengths to overcome those defenses.

Seraphem
09:04:17 PM Mar 14th 2014
Yes. It really does not apply, and as above, the Steel Ranger armor is a pretty big deal.
Unknownlight
09:25:55 AM Mar 15th 2014
Sounds good.
GenericOscout
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01:16:09 AM Jan 28th 2014
Just letting everyone know the song Lil Pip is no longer up on youtube from its original source.

I reposted the song here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXGLHBacYbo

MythicFox
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02:05:04 AM Jan 25th 2013
Forgive me for asking sort of a general question about the story in general... how accessible is it to someone who's an MLP fan but not familiar with Fallout?
KoriCongo
09:44:38 PM Feb 4th 2013
On a scale of 1-10, 2. Learn something about Fallout, like the lore, then comeback. Or don't.
MythicFox
04:42:28 AM Feb 22nd 2013
Thanks.
darksilverhawk
09:39:06 PM Feb 23rd 2013
As someone who read it knowing nothing about Fallout, I disagree; the story itself is still very enjoyable as a stand-alone piece. Everything is explained within the universe's own continuity and while there are some references I probably missed, nothing left me confused or thinking that I should know something I don't to understand what was going on.
Snipehamster
07:12:01 AM Feb 25th 2013
I'd say that a knowledge of Fallout would be helpful, but it's by no means required. FoE is based on Fallout, not set within it.
GenericOscout
01:19:55 AM Jan 28th 2014
The thing is that there are so many references and jabs taken from pretty much all the fallout 1-newvegas games that lots of things won't have their intended effect on the reader IMO.

Despite that the book is pretty good without previous knowledge of the Fallout universe. Its just a whole new experience IMO when you've been through all the games, easter eggs, and plot lines.

I basically Squee'd throughout reading the story :3.

However, as an MLP fan fic its like exposing a person to cupcakes for the first time with a few sprinkles on top. Not something I'd recommend to most fans of only MLP. unless they like horror/Post apocalyptic.
shoboni
01:49:33 PM Feb 22nd 2014
edited by 50.82.20.165
I've only played FO 3 and good chunk of New Vegas but I'm getting along fine and enjoying it.
Troika
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12:43:27 PM Nov 1st 2012
This is absolutely terrible. I can't wait for the author to be sued out of existence by Bethesda.
REV6Pilot
12:57:47 PM Nov 1st 2012
edited by REV6Pilot
Haters gonna hate, and it's all I have to say.
SomeNewGuy
05:37:28 AM Nov 2nd 2012
Plus, if fanfics were grounds for lawsuits, fanfics in general wouldn't be as widespread as they are.

Seriously, grow up.
Eclipse11
01:03:49 AM Nov 26th 2012
Fanfics themselves aren't the issue, it's that someone has put it into a book and sold it. That can be something you can sue people over as it's using a video game franchise and little girl's merchandising to make a profit.
Snipehamster
02:49:04 AM Nov 27th 2012
edited by Snipehamster
As I understand it (and not being directly involved I may be mistaken) the printed version of FoE is not sold for profit. The people organising the printing project charge only for the costs of manufacturing and distribution; in essence, those 'ordering' the books pay for publicly-available printing and mailing services but not the books themselves.

A little dubious, certainly, but perhaps not outright illegal.
shoboni
01:50:49 PM Feb 22nd 2014
As far as I know. Both Bethesda and Hasbro gave Kkat their blessing.
WovenTales
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04:03:46 AM Jan 7th 2012
The explanation for Doorstopper—and I certainly agree with that!—says that Kkat has recommended a few points for breaking the story up, but I haven't been able to find any reference to those elsewhere. This could be a case of poor searching and not wanting to go through 8406 comments on ED alone (even with five hundred per page and Ctrl-F), but if anyone knows where to find his statement, it might be nice to link to it or copy onto the page.
WovenTales
10:23:39 PM Jan 16th 2012
edited by WovenTales
I decided to stop being lazy a week ago, and found the comment at [1]. And then I didn't do anything with it. I might still get around to adding it eventually, but if anyone wants to grab that before I do, feel free.
SilverlightPony
02:04:40 PM Mar 17th 2012
Well, the fan project to get Fallout Equestria printed in dead-tree form is planning to break it up into five volumes, so yeah, I'm pretty sure it qualifies as a doorstopper. :P
Troika
02:05:46 PM Aug 18th 2012
The fan project to get FE printed is going to get them sued into low earth orbit. If you think Bethesda is going to tolerate having their IP defiled by 500,000 words of pony rape and torture porn then you're sadly mistaken.
darkdigi
07:05:23 AM Dec 27th 2012
im sorry you seem to be confusing this with cupcakes its still fallout and unless fallout is really only about rape and torture porn that makes absolutely no since
shoboni
01:53:04 PM Feb 22nd 2014
edited by 50.82.20.165
No, he's confusing it with Project Horizons, which DOES look pretty gruesome from it's trope page. The content in the original is no worse then what you'd find in FO 3. I haven't finished yet but one of my friends that's both a brony and huge FO 3 fanboy verified that anyone that was fine playing FO 3 should have no problem stomaching FOE.
MrUnsmiley
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08:09:49 PM Jan 1st 2012
For the last time, Life Bloom is NOT the Element Bearer of Magic. This is only speculated by Spike at first because of Life Bloom's diverse range of spells, but disproved by Life Bloom himself when he states that he's significantly lacking in the magical stamina that even Littlepip has, much less Twilight Sparkle.
Jessewq
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05:18:12 AM Dec 17th 2011
edited by Jessewq
A couple of trope inclusions are questionable.

1. For Spin-Offspring, I don't think it's right calling Littlepip a "distant descendant" of Applejack anymore than calling Velvet Remedy one. They're both in the Apple family, but Word of God states that neither are direct descendants of Applejack. In order to get from Littlepip to Applejack, you would have to go up above Applejack in the family tree an unknown amount and then come down again, which seems like way too much of a stretch to fall under that trope.

2. Similarly, I'm not sure Luke, I Am Your Father should be present at all. The strongest connection is that Littlepip and Velvet Remedy share a common Apple ancestor six generations back. SteelHooves's only known connection with the Apple family is via mating with Applejack, so you get back to the same situation as in (1) above when linking him with Littlepip and Velvet Remedy, only with an additional in-law at the end.

Do you think these reasons are enough to modify (1) and remove (2)?
Thebes
11:41:29 AM Dec 19th 2011
I agree.
Tiroth
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12:48:30 PM Aug 15th 2011
I just added Unspoken Plan Guarantee for what Littlepip is going to do about Trixie, and I was wondering if anyone knows what the trope is for wiping your own memory to safeguard the plan?
Tiroth
02:07:50 PM Aug 15th 2011
edited by Tiroth
Wait, found it. And it's already on the list.
Thebes
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10:40:21 AM Jul 11th 2011
edited by Thebes
RE: Velvet's Character Development.

Currently, we have Actual Pacifist and Technical Pacifist on separate lines, both listing Velvet, both accurate at separate points, and neither accurate now that she's loading her shotgun with poisoned rounds.

We could update Technical Pacifist to reflect that she fit the trope early in the story but not currently, like the Actual Pacifist entry. This seems awkward to me, and it make the Actual Pacifist entry seem inaccurate.

Does anyone have any suggestions of how to show this?
godort
04:46:51 PM Jul 29th 2011
edited by godort
This is a difficult question. Velvet started the story as an Actual Pacifist, and through exposure to the wasteland became a Technical Pacifist. but post Fillydelphia, while still showing some Technical Pacifist traits, she is losing that aspect.

as for how this is portrayed in trope form, I couldn't tell you.
RenErthilo
04:19:18 PM Jul 30th 2011
I would just put Character Development down and then list the stages that she's been through. Seems to be the easiest solution here.
RenErthilo
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03:01:15 PM Jul 6th 2011
This one's mainly about spoilers. Mainly, should we censor every major plot event? Or just those from, say, the most recent chapters? Currently it's slightly inconsistent.

I suppose the big question is, "Who is the main audience for this page?". If it's mainly just fans of the work (which it probably is), then spoilers seem almost unnecessary.

Obviously, a tropes page can be a spoiler in itself, but I'd like to see what everyone else thinks about this.
SilverlightPony
07:25:19 PM Feb 8th 2012
edited by SilverlightPony
You have to remember that people may come here from elsewhere on TV Tropes Wiki without having read it, and then decide to read it. Any page for a work should always be written with new readers/watchers in mind, and hide anything that they may not want to have spoiled. Granted, in something like Fallout: Equestria, that means 3/4 of the page will be hidden behind spoiler tags, but that's better than spoiling a powerful surprise for a new reader who would rather have been blindsided by it.

Anyone who doesn't mind spoilers will either be highlighting everything anyway, or will already have spoilers set to 'always visible' in their settings.
zarpaulus
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06:12:07 PM Jun 17th 2011
Think we should make a Quotes page with a list of all Littlepip's unusual eipithets (ex. Luna's tidal mareheat!)?
Thebes
02:03:51 AM Jun 18th 2011
Yes.
RenErthilo
06:38:16 AM Jun 18th 2011
There are probably a couple more quotes we could add. I say go for it.
zarpaulus
09:07:36 AM Jun 18th 2011
Well, let's get started then:

Fallout: Equestria
Kyman102
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04:34:25 PM May 31st 2011
Hey, is there a trope for tossing out whatever's ruining your life via addiction? I'd like to add the scene in chapter 20 where Pip flushes her PTM supply as an example...
RenErthilo
04:53:12 PM May 31st 2011
I don't there's a specific one for that (correct me if I'm wrong), but it seems closely related to My God, What Have I Done?.

Could also include:
SebastianFarenheint
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10:59:21 AM May 25th 2011
Looking at the events at shattered hoof. Manipulating Deadeyes into that trap would count as a batman gambit? Could we classify Littlepip as a "guile hero"? Even thought she is capable of fighting?
RenErthilo
01:45:49 PM May 25th 2011
I think we'd probably need a few more examples to classify her as a Guile Hero. That particular scheme could go as a Batman Gambit though.
Kyman102
03:58:44 PM May 28th 2011
Well, when she's high on Mint-als, Little Pip has shown that she's able to do quite a bit of fast-talking...
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