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AgProv AgProv Since: Jul, 2011
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Nov 25th 2022 at 3:24:36 AM •••

Just checking to get an idea about how TV Tropes handles situations where a Creator is un-masked as a sexual offender, especially against children. At time of writing (24/11/2022) there is a new situation bubbling under in Britain that may well implicate a celebrity, who has their own Creator page here; it could well be one or both of two people.

Getting that TVT takes a neutral "no such thing as notoriety" stance, accepts the Creator page must remain to mark that the person did make contributions to the creative world, and then locks the page to prevent edit wars and flamebait? Seems sensible.

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passivesmoking Since: Apr, 2009
Aug 27th 2016 at 8:19:24 AM •••

This page needs to be relegated to the Permanent Red Link Club. He was an evil SOB who deserves no publicity, and having a page on him will only invite controversy. Additionally, outside of the UK he's just not that notable.

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stuthehistoryguy Since: May, 2011
Sep 5th 2016 at 5:23:56 PM •••

Agreed. The temptation to include "Complete Monster" is just too great - and utterly justified.

shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
Dec 18th 2017 at 5:44:42 PM •••

Seconded.

It would be better to strike him from the wiki totally than have this crapshow of a page that dances around the fact he was a prolific child molester with only one line mentioning "involved in a large sex abuse scandal"

It's like some kind of sick whitewashing.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Dec 19th 2017 at 5:37:32 AM •••

Honestly, more should be mentioned of the scandal because outside the UK, it's all he's known for. Any time he's mentioned on US media, it's in regards to said scandal. It would be a more useful note if the page went into something more specific than what really sounds more like a teaser for the main thing.

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polybius81 Ace Combat Legend Since: Dec, 2013
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Jan 9th 2016 at 11:07:49 AM •••

I don't know why, but I think we need a rule of cautious editing judgement warning.

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Paireon Since: Jan, 2001
May 27th 2016 at 5:21:46 AM •••

I agree, but frankly I still have to question the good taste of putting Friend to All Children with zero references to his, well, child abuse. Maybe just a curt mention that he was actually a subversion? No need for details, but I think leaving the trope entry stand as it is is... uncomfortable.

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passivesmoking Since: Apr, 2009
Oct 1st 2016 at 12:54:51 AM •••

I disagree, this page simply needs to just go. No matter what his other traits and achievements were, he'll now always be a Depraved Kids' Show Host and a Complete Monster to the British public. There is no reason for a page on such a sick person to exist. It should just be buried in an unmarked grave, just like he is.

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