12:13:02 AM Jan 25th 2018
edited by Qaweldon
edited by Qaweldon
So a while back I made a YMMV page on Ten Napel making mention of his views on gay people and a fan of his deleted it and replaced it with a out-of-place statement praising him. I even retyped my post in a more neutral tone and reached out to the user to reason with him, but he refused and deleted it again. The page has since been deleted (a moderator reminded me that YMMV pages for people shouldn't exist, sorry about that) but my question is whether or not Doug's views on the LGBT community should be brought up at all since there are fans of his who'll go out of there way to delete these posts despite their relevance.
09:06:22 PM Nov 20th 2013
This bit of info from the page seems a bit unnecessary and a little bit too much finger-point-y: "He is also conservative, and has spoken out against gay marriage, but not gay rights as a whole.note Specifically that gay couples should be able to legally have all the same rights as straight couples without needing to get married, and that marriage should remain a religious concept only."
09:14:08 PM Nov 20th 2013
It's been a pretty major part of his image these last few years, and since I'm not overly familiar with his recent works and can't tell if his views are given voice in his works, I didn't want to axe the mention completely. Maybe we can shrink the mention a bit more; There's precedent for mentioning stuff like this on the Orson Scott Card page. Overall, though, I'm thinking we might need to ask a mod if this is relevant at all.
12:44:38 AM Jul 29th 2013
The quote at the beginning of the page seems unnecessarily insulting. The description doesn't signify that he's famous for being an ass, so the quote just seems like a biased insult. I'm personally for removing the quote and having a quoteless page, but it's not just up to me. Anyone care to defend the usage of the quote?