There is a line in "Comic book time" that says "In sharp contrast to 616 continuity in its early years...", which is clearly wrong. Comic book time does apply for the mainstream Marvel universe as much as it does in the ultimate one. Just check here there are tons of examples of that (yes, including the early years). In fact, the mainstream Marvel and DC universes are the very trope codifiers of that trope. That line should be simply deleted.
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The early years of Marvel Comics did take place in real-time. The Fantastic Four in its original run saw characters grow and age. Reed Richards and Sue went from dating, to married to becoming parents. Peter Parker graduated high-school and went to college in the first 30 issues.
It's a relevant point of comparison to Ultimate Marvel where you don't have that, and so the Fantastic Four never truly become a family, where Peter Parker never graduates high school. In the 616 Marvel, Reed and Sue are married, and parents of two children. Peter graduated high school, got out of college, and at the time Ultimate Marvel came out, was a married man.
Marvel adopted Comic Book Time much later, somewhere around the mid-to-late 60s.
That's just a cherry-picked example. You may also take the case of Jean Grey and Scott Summers, who took years to get past the "I like her/him, but surely she/he will not like me" stage, and then decades before getting married. In comparison, the relation of ultimate Jean and Scott was supersonic.
Let's be clear that I'm not denying that Ultimate Marvel has comic book time. I'm denying that the mainstream Marvel Universe lacked it. Just because time passed in some aspects, does not mean that CBT was not already working in others. Such as Tony Stark, who has been "slowly dying" because of his hearth condition literally for decades.
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In the case of Ultimate X-Men, Jean Grey shacked up with Wolverine, Cyclops joined the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, they got kidnapped by Weapon X and became Child Soldiers and tortured for several issues...so to me the issues there don't have anything to do with Comic-Book Time.
In the case of Spider-Man and Fantastic-Four, for most of the run it was intended to be a Setting Update in the classic mould. Reed didn't go evil until after Ultimatum, and so on...so the examples there are more applicable...
Again, we are not discussing if Ultimate Marvel has CBT (it has), but if the mainstream marvel universe lacked it. It didn't. The lack of it at some certain plot point does not mean that the work as a whole is free of CBT. In modern times, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones also got in love, married, had a daughter, break up, etc; and that doesn't mean that CBT has been abolished.
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I mentioned precisely the point in time when 616 Marvel had Comic-Book Time, in its early years, and Ultimate Marvel is fundamentally a retelling of early marvel...most of it, and a good part of its best stories are Origins Episodes.
You cannot delete it, and the point still stands. It is relevant as a point of comparison.
According to this article
in CBR, the concept of comic book time (or, as they call it, "Marvel time"), existed as early as in 1968. There is Word of God of Stan Lee on the issue.
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I'm new, but I thought the main page for a series was supposed to be objective. Is it alright if I rewrite part of the summary so that it doesn't say (in essence) "Ultimate Marvel is all about stupid plot twists?"
All will be well.
The entries of the Secret War's Continuity Snarl and First Law of Resurrection were deleted without an edit summary. May I ask the reasons?
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