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xVanitas
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11:22:42 AM Dec 12th 2014
I'm not thinking of moving them, but I just want to clarify some stuff. I just want to make sure as to why some characters are here.

  • Varrick and Zhu Li: They've clashed with Team Avatar in Book 2, with Varrick double crossing the whole team just to make himself money. But after he was sent to prison he still helped them out, helped them out in Book 3 regarding Aiwei, then joined the Earth Empire thinking things were fine, then finally betrayed the Empire to be on the side of the good guys for good. Because of all of the side switching, that is why they're on this Other Characters page, right? First allies, then enemies, then allies, then enemies, then allies again, sort of. Definitely not enemies, but they weren't exactly the best of allies at least until the very end. Right?
  • Raiko: Was indifferent to the Water Tribe conflict since that was just a Water Tribe thing. Disliked Korra for having her ruin stuff like have the Vines mess up Republic City, or having her barge into meetings unannounced, but still needs Korra to protect the city and to protect the world. So overall... neutral? Just his own force, neither really a good ally to Korra, nor an enemy even if they've had their difference?
  • Wu: Was introduced as a selfish brat who didn't care much about things aside from materials and wealth, but then grew attached to Mako and lately has even been putting others before himself, making him selfless. Definitely not an enemy or a threat, but also not very useful, although his evacuation of the citizens and his Rousing Speech could do him some favours. But since he's not exactly that helpful to Team Avatar and our heroes, but not exactly useless... that's why he is here, right?
  • Izumi: Since she's on the side of the Republic, we'd have to assume she's on the side of the good guys, right? But since we don't really see much of her, and since she didn't want to go on the offensive, it's likely that she's just neutral, even if she may be descended from one of the heroes from the original series, admittedly an Anti-Hero but still?

I'm also guessing Allies are for the characters who are undoubtedly on Team Avatar's side, possess some use to our heroes (be it by wisdom or combat prowess), and never really switch sides, right? Whereas neutral characters and characters who may have gone back and forth (Varrick for instance) will be here?
yesatron
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10:55:57 PM Oct 4th 2014
edited by 24.176.168.157
Shouldn't Kuvira be on the "Enemies" page? Or is she here because she hasn't been outed to the cast as a villain yet?
SeptimusHeap
01:52:30 AM Oct 5th 2014
I think the latter.
isoycrazy
04:15:32 AM Oct 5th 2014
Agreed. She shouldn't be made an enemy just yet.
Torresp
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04:15:59 PM Sep 5th 2014
I really Varrick was Mako's archenemy, at least for book 2. He mostly antagonized and Mako and Asami. Even in the trope page it stated that lex Luthor is Superman's arch enemy, because it was personal. The same thing applies to Varrick for Mako. Everything Varrick did to mako got quite personal. Furthermore the article sums it up by saying that an archenemy "generally refers to the enemy the hero considers to be his Arch Enemy". Again, why do you think Mako bears a strong grudge against Varrick? Why do you think Mako has been taking great efforts to foil Varrick? Mako does consider Varrick his arch enemy because again, Varrick's deceptions of those close to him became a personal edge, and mako needed to stop him.
TheRoguePenguin
05:00:11 PM Sep 5th 2014
edited by 75.61.77.90
He was the villain for half an arc, and Mako was trying to expose him because he tricked Asami into selling off her company. He's doing his job as a police officer. Lex Luthor is Superman's arch enemy because it's personal to him. He hates Superman. Mako doesn't hate Varrick personally, he's protecting his friends. And he's not one to Asami, either; she got played by him and got everything back in the end. There's nothing left.

In short, as I said in the comments, stop trying to shoehorn it in. Your premise relies a sketchy interpretation of his motives at best, and Varrick ceases to be an antagonist as soon as that arc is done.
Torresp
06:51:50 PM Sep 5th 2014
edited by 162.216.14.5
First of all, being a police officer is not the only reason he fights for good. He's been fighting for good since he joined he Avatar. second, Mako does indeed hate varrick, because Varrick framed him. Even in book 3 Varrick may not be a villain anymore, but Mako still. Hates Varrick for having framed him. So I want to point out that it's quite innacurate to say that Mako doesn't hate Varrick. The only thing that's personal to Mako was when Varrick framed him.

No matter how much you say I'm wrong, I am not going to agree with you.
TheRoguePenguin
07:03:32 PM Sep 5th 2014
The fact that' you've downgraded to arguing his hate for Varrick already shows you know the rest is on thin ice. Of course Mako hates Varrick for framing him. Anyone would. But do you see him do anything other than act annoyed? No. He's let it go by the end of that dinner. It happened, he got over it. Same thing with Asami. She lost her company, got it back. Varrick doesn't continue to be an antagonist to them. He isn't like Luthor or Barbosa. He's just an arc villain turned comic relief, nothing more. And if he truly hated Varrick, he wouldn't be tolerating his advice later.
SeptimusHeap
02:57:39 AM Sep 6th 2014
I think this discussion could use a bit cooler heads.

Anyhow, based upon the Avarar wiki it doesn't seem that they interact enough to fit.
Torresp
09:07:18 AM Sep 6th 2014
edited by 35.2.240.117
Forget that wiki, the admins are jerks.

Well, know this, if I make my own wiki on the tropes of the franchise, or on the franchise itself, I will put whatever information I want seen, and whatever information I think is right. You cannot tell me it is wrong, because I will be in charge of my own wiki.
Nithael
09:37:43 AM Sep 6th 2014
Will your wiki have blackjack and hookers as well?