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XFllo
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04:14:09 AM Aug 3rd 2014

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Bernadette:

  • Seemingly Wholesome '50s Girl: See Covert Pervert. Part of it is as backlash to her strict Catholic upbringing (see above).

    • She's a young contemporary woman, born (probably) in The Eighties. I don't see a bit of The Fifties nostalgia ideas in her. I agree that she's often "seemingly wholesome" and subverts Nice Girl, but the trope is pretty narrow and her being listed looks like shoe-horning.

  • She Cleans Up Nicely: When Bernadette got made over into Cinderella, she looked beautiful.

    • She looks always pretty. I think it's misuse.
XFllo
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02:23:10 AM Mar 15th 2014
edited by 77.48.59.193

Removed from the article - misuse of the trope and incorrect example indentation (sub-bullets are not for paragraph breaks)

Too Dumb to Live: character does something stupid which leads to his/her serious injury or death.

Sheldon Cooper sometimes does stupid things for such a genius, but he was not injured and he's very much alive. Speculating that his behaviour in real life would result in injury/death is shoe-horning.

Sheldon Cooper:

  • Too Dumb to Live:
    • Many of the things he says and does would, in the real world, cause one to be arrested, hospitalized, possibly even killed. One episode even reveals he doesn't even cash his paycheques because nothing available to buy in the present interests him. Apparently he's never heard of stale dated cheques, inflation or compound interest.
    • He actually did go to jail in "The Excelsior Acquisition":
    Leonard: Sheldon's in jail?! For what?
    Penny: For doing the same crap he always does, except to a judge.
    • However, in the real world, someone would get very angry at him and attack him, causing him (Sheldon), and possibly witnesses, to be hospitalized and possibly even killed. That person could get arrested for disturbing the peace, and witnesses could get seriously injured or even killed out of the attacker's rage, if Sheldon angers him that much.
    • All in all, he would not fare well at all in the real world, and is so lucky to not exist in the real world.
XFllo
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07:33:23 PM Jan 28th 2014
edited by 77.48.59.193
Removed from the article. It was added with incorrect Example Indentation and in a Thread Mode. (Bullets are not for paragraph breaks.)

Sheldon

  • Flanderization: He started off as slightly more neurotic and less interested in socializing than Leonard, but quickly grew to where his Neat Freak and Schedule Fanatic traits were more dominant. In addition his disinterest in socializing was eventually explained, in part, by his Asexuality.
    • An inversion of this trope is done in the Whole Episode Flashback to when Leonard and Sheldon first met. The Sheldon of the series has all sorts of quirks but still makes awkward attempts at social interaction and understanding how normal people think, the Sheldon of the flashback was basically a flanderization of his current personality where his Control Freak and Insufferable Genius mannerisms were about all he was. While not really elaborated upon, it's suggested that being friends with Leonard is the reason Sheldon of today is even remotely workable.

Amy

  • Flanderization: Subverted. Initially she's just as socially awkward, robotic and autistic as Sheldon, if not even more so, but by the time she becomes Sheldon's girlfriend in the middle of Season 5 a large part of that has been dropped and she's become much more normal.
    • If anything, they highlight her less obvious traits. At first, she's pretty much distaff-Sheldon. As the series continues, her defining trait becomes that unlike Sheldon, she craves the approval of others, enjoys interactions with the group, and longs for sexual contact - similar process, but she contrasts, rather than exaggerates. Reversed polarity Flanderization.

I also feel inversed or subverted Flanderization are really hard concepts to do.

If anything, they would fall into Characterization Marches On, especially in Amy's case.

I also think this entry is plain misuse, because Flanderization means "character's personality traits are exeggarated, sometimes to the point of parody and that their characterazation is taken over by one quirk".

Bernadette

  • Flanderization: When she was first introduced, was very nice and polite, though rather ditzy. Occasionally the writers would have her say something uncharacteristically mean or violent, the joke being that because she was normally so sweet, seeing her act that way was funny. As the show went on though, these outbursts became more and more common, and the Bernadette of later seasons is a very short-tempered and competitive person. The ditzy aspect of her personality was dropped, probably to differentiate her more from Penny, and she eventually Hand Waved it by saying she initially acted dumb to make her boyfriend Howard feel smart.

I think only two characters in this series who fit Flanderization are Raj (his inability to talk to women) and Stuart the comic book store owner (suffering from severe depression).
XFllo
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03:53:17 AM Jan 12th 2014
edited by 77.48.59.223
Conversation on the Main Page is not allowed. From Sheldon's description:

  • Karma Houdini: He gets away with his jerkass behavior far too often, and hardly ever learns his lesson.
    • Although on some occasions, he ends up suffering harshly despite doing nothing wrong. So he's not a complete example.

The issue whether he fits should be resolved here. If I'm not mistaken, Karma Houdini is a villain trope. I don't think he's supposed to be portrayed that horrible.
MGD108
10:27:50 AM Jan 12th 2014
Indeed, he is sometimes portrayed in an antagonistic role. But he's rarely portrayed as an antagonist. Likewise in the times he does, it is in those occasions that he rarely wins. So I don't think he counts either.
sharkticon
11:30:21 AM Jan 12th 2014
Its not a villain trope anymore. that said, its a character trope so it goes on the character sheet
forsetipurge
01:45:23 PM Jan 23rd 2014
I'm for listing Karma Houdini on Sheldon.
SeptimusHeap
01:56:45 PM Jan 23rd 2014
Karma Houdini is not a villain trope. That said, it's very strict about being only for such cases where there is no consequence whatsoever. Is that the case here?
Ambaryerno
02:08:01 PM Jan 23rd 2014
Tough to say, considering he seems to get a comeuppance nearly as often as he gets away with it.
XFllo
02:35:27 AM Mar 15th 2014
I remember most episodes that he doesn't get away with his odd ideas and jackassery. However, I'd be fine if the example listed an instance of concete episode where he got away.
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