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Elendil
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03:01:30 AM Jun 10th 2015
"Women Are Wiser: More intelligent and reasonable than her(Petunia Dursley, née Evans) husband. In Order of the Phoenix, she's the only Dursley who believes Harry's story about Voldemort's return and convinces Vernon not to throw Harry out the house."

I don't think this trope is valid here. The trope itself states 'Note that this trope is not about any specific instance of individual female characters being particularly sensible, but about depictions in which female characters are automatically placed in a more positive light than their male counterparts.' I don't believe this is the case at all. Harry approaches Vernon when he wants a ride to King's Cross in PS, a signed permission slip to Hogsmeade in PA, and a trip to the world cup in Go F. If the 'Women are Wiser' trope applied he would have asked these things to Petunia, and it's not like Petunia is under her husband's thumb. In chapter 1 of PS we clearly see how nervous and scared Vernon gets when he wants to talk about 'her sister' and in Oot P she decides against Vernon's wishes that Harry has to stay, at which point Vernon completely backtracks in his threat and listens to Petunia. You can't blame Vernon for being unaware of the details of a letter he most likely never read or claim that this one event makes Petunia the sensible one. At the very least this generally positive Trope is not Played Straight here imo. Thoughts?
abomb30
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02:41:44 PM Nov 27th 2013
edited by 24.193.190.148
"Parental Abandonment: He [Tom Riddle, Sr.] knowingly abandons his wife along with their unborn child. Granted, he was effectivly raped, but even so..."

Wow. We're supposed to think he did a bad thing by walking out on his rapist? Double Standard much?
Telcontar
12:55:54 AM Nov 28th 2013
Yeah. I would support removing or rewording that.
abomb30
03:42:37 PM Nov 28th 2013
To be honest, most of his section is problematic. Karmic Death and Asshole Victim are both there, when the worst thing we know he was...be rude to the Gaunts. Him abandoning his child is mentioned three or four times.

He was RAPED, for fuck's sake!
Discontent
05:22:10 PM Nov 28th 2013
Yep. Change it. Change it all.
abomb30
05:37:36 PM Nov 28th 2013
"Yes, he was drugged and coerced into marrying Merope and conceiving a child with her, but then again, he did knowingly abandon her and his own child."

It's shit like that that really bothers me. No one would question a woman doing the same thing. It's all gone.
Telcontar
06:19:25 AM Nov 29th 2013
edited by 91.125.235.103
Thanks for taking care of it.
isoycrazy
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04:11:41 AM Aug 23rd 2013
"You didn't just lose a mother in Godric's Hollow. I lost a sister."

Where was this said?
Telcontar
05:36:46 AM Aug 23rd 2013
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