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01:52:14 PM Apr 6th 2014
Is Griphook not listed here? Should he be?
08:35:04 PM Nov 12th 2010
Does Snape really fit as a "Double Reverse Quadruple Agent"? 'Cos that trope seems to only apply if there's more than two sides in a given conflict. Snape seems to me to be a textbook example of a just plain Double Agent: he's acting as the Reverse Mole for Dumbledore, while pretending to be The Mole for Voldemort. Simple.

That's why descriptions like "triple agent" and even "quadruple agent" just aren't accurate when applied to Snape. He was a Double Agent — the only question during the series was whom he was a Double Agent for. Was he The Mole pretending to be the Reverse Mole, or the Reverse Mole pretending to be The Mole? Of course, it turned out to be the latter.
11:25:19 AM Nov 13th 2010
You're right- he doesn't. Edited that out and a bunch of other stuff, too. Restore in case of disagreement.
06:45:19 PM Nov 14th 2010
Wow. "A bunch of other stuff" is an understatement. That was a shitload of edits.

(Although I still maintain that Snape inventing "Sectumsempra" is an indication of a Dark and Troubled Past, and thus fits the trope. I mean, you gotta be dark and troubled if you invent a flesh-slicing spell when you're still a teen...)
06:31:14 AM Nov 12th 2010
How is Voldy an expy of some guy in Dungeons and Dragons? Wouldn't that require him to be a shout out to it or something? I mean, idk about this thing, but it seems more like a WMG than a trope example
08:02:27 AM Nov 12th 2010
It's not a "guy"- a lich is a kind of undead creature from Dn D, a magic-user (normally an Evil Sorcerer) who makes themselves immortal by using a Soul Jar from which they can regenerate if killed. Voldie does the same thing, though he's (probably) not technically undead. However, I'm a little iffy on this one myself- who knows if Rowling had liches in mind when she created Voldemort and his Horcruxes, or if both simply drew on legendary uses of the Soul Jar?
03:55:11 AM Nov 16th 2010
My bad then. But I still think it's reaching. Isn't V more of an expy of Hitler?

Deleting btw
07:10:15 PM Sep 26th 2010
Someone keeps deleting my examples under Snape's name, and as far as I can tell, they're doing it because it makes their examples look better, not because I'm wrong or making a wrong example. So, whoever's doing it, KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF, okay? Snape is a polarizing character, and needless to say, your mileage may vary on everything he does and everything other people think about him. Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm wrong, and deleting someone's example just because you disagree with it is not acceptable. For further reference, please see Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment.
12:02:02 PM Sep 27th 2010
See the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment yourself. Your examples mostly attack other examples, and are much longer than the average, mostly full of Alternate Character Interpretation. If you're the only one adding in those examples, while multiple people are removing them, chances are that you're the one who's wrong.
12:11:49 PM Sep 27th 2010
edited by tenderlumpling
Pointing out where there's conflicting evidence is not an attack; you partake in pointing out the conflicting evidence yourself, but I'm not accusing you of attacking me. I'm just asking you to stop deleting my examples just because you disagree with them. Deleting an example because you disagree with it is petty; if you disagree with it, make a bullet saying so and stating why. Simple as that. No one is attacking you, and if you continue to think we are, that's all on you.

Also: Before you accuse anyone else of Alternate Character Interpretation, realize that Alternate Character Interpretation accounts for almost all of any character's applicable tropes. Kind of happens when two people read the same book, since those two people are highly unlikely to have the exact same opinions about anything. And for a series as popular as Harry Potter, that's going to be ratcheted all the way up. Alternate Character Interpretation is part and parcel of all character sheets; get over it.
05:59:25 AM Sep 29th 2010
Except that when an example has multiple bullet points after it, it's generally not a good example and tends to get deleted for being Conversation in the Main Page. Nobody is attacking you by deleting your examples, they're just following the guidelines of the site and deleting examples that are obviously very open to interpretation.
11:21:55 AM Sep 26th 2010
Think some character folders in the characters section would be nice
11:01:34 AM May 17th 2011
What happened to Ernie Mc Millan? Didn't see him anywhere. I thought he's a decent character.
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