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immblueversion
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04:33:29 PM Jun 1st 2014
edited by 96.250.231.176
I'm looking to overhaul the character pages for Fairy Tail. Lately they've been getting kind of messy. Here's what's on my to-do list:

  • Create a general page for Fairy Tail that lists tropes about the guild as a whole.
  • Renaming the Fairy Tail guild pages "Main Members" (for "Team Natsu"), "Major Members" (for the Masters, S-Class Wizards, and the Tenrou/Sirius Island guys), and "Minor Members" (for the rest).
  • Renaming "Other Guilds" to "Official Guilds", and splitting it into two pages: "Before Sirius Island" and "After Sirius Island". Because that page is big, and Sirius Island is a good cut-off point.
  • Splitting the Balam Alliance dark guilds into their own pages. They're also big enough. (Remember, the official spelling is "Tartaros", not "Tartarus". If I'm mistaken and the Kodansha USA spelling is really "Tartarus", please tell me.)
  • Speaking of which, use official, Kodansha USA name spellings and terminology, NOT the Fairy Tail Wiki (i.e., "wizard" instead of "mage", unless the word "mage" is in the trope name like Child Mage). If Kodansha isn't available, use Funimation. And if that's not available, use Crunchyroll. Use fan translations only if no official translations are available.
  • Adding context. Far too many of these tropes are guilty of having Zero-Context Examples; it especially irks me how some examples say things like, "This guy makes Minerva of all people crap themselves," or "Ticking off ''Mirajane was probably a bad idea," as if readers already know who Minerva or Mirajane are.
  • Setting a spoiler policy: anything regarding Zeref, Acnologia, the future characters, and any deaths or plot twists in episodes or chapters following what is encompassed in the pre-hiatus run of the anime (episodes 1-175) must be spoiler tagged. Everything else is Spoilers Off.
  • You can probably guess that some people just don't follow the spoiler policy. Let's change that by keeping all spoilers unmarked until we can find a way to use them more properly.
  • There is a gratuitous overuse of markups, and it gets. Really. ANNOYING!!!!! Examples such as these (the Dark Guilds page is a pretty bad offender) should be written more compellingly.
  • Getting rid of those "infoboxes". I vaguely recall adding them because I thought they'd be of some kind of use, but now I think they're an eyesore. They're filled with trivial info (like where a character's guild mark is, or spells/weapons characters only ever use once), while some of the more important information can easily be written out in the character descriptions.
  • Cleaning up any instances of natter or chapter-by-chapter developments, as well as messy grammar and spaces, and the fact that periods. Are not. Commas.
immblueversion
01:03:23 PM Sep 26th 2014
edited by 96.250.231.176
For a while now, I've been working on sandboxes to make the changes listed above. I'll put them here for the sake of convenience.

immblueversion
11:20:35 AM Oct 3rd 2014
Okay, I went ahead and split the pages as they are. However, the content issue still remains, so don't delete those sandboxes just yet. This is just the first step in the overhaul.
serpentchan
topic
09:10:47 PM Jun 12th 2013
Since the official translation went with the name Sirius Island, I think the Tenrou Group page might need to be renamed.
immblueversion
topic
09:14:37 AM Nov 9th 2012
As you may have noticed, I've rearranged the character pages yet again. But now I have an issue with character name spellings. As I understand it, the manga includes "official" name spellings provided by Hiro Mashima himself. Several of the earlier manga volumes include a note from Mashima explaining this. As of late, however, the latest manga volumes do not contain such a note, and as such, sites such as the Fairy Tail Wiki do not count the name spellings in such these as "official" because they cannot verify if they are.

Granted, it has occurred to me that not everyone owns the manga volumes released by Del Rey and Kodansha USA, and rely on the words of others online for such information. But to me, disregarding the translations given by companies such as Del Rey, Kodansha USA, Crunchyroll, and Funimation seems a bit limiting. I know the fanmade names are the ones many are familiar with, but does that make the other names any less qualified to be used, regardless of whether they were given by Hiro Mashima?
lu127
moderator
11:04:37 AM Nov 9th 2012
edited by lu127
Official translations must be used where available and are by default to be used over fanmade ones. Fanmade translations should be used only if there are no official ones.
immblueversion
08:35:19 AM Nov 10th 2012
In that case, considering Fairy Tail is primarily released in manga format, the translations used by the manga's licensors (Del Rey and Kodansha USA) should be used here regardless of whether or not Hiro Mashima says he gave them.

Crunchyroll and Funimation also have licenses for the anime, so I figure the names of characters who have not yet appeared in Kodansha USA's licensed manga material should be taken from the officially licensed subtitles (mainly from Crunchyroll, since they release the anime as they're aired in Japan and are further ahead than Funimation).

I was concerned mainly because whenever I try to change the names to these official translations, one troper by the username of "boo1348" keeps reverting them back to the ones used by the Fairy Tail Wiki, where names from officially licensed material are only used if Hiro Mashima says he uses them; in other words, quite a few characters on the FT Wiki are still known by fanmade names.
gaga4badmusic
10:49:55 AM May 17th 2013
Is this just for character names, or are locations handled the same way? Tenrou Island's name changed when the volume including it came out but I wasn't sure if it should he altered here or not.
immblueversion
topic
09:24:26 AM Dec 9th 2011
edited by immblueversion
I'm thinking the list of characters in Fairy Tail is getting too complex to simplify it as "members of Fairy Tail," "villains," and "other characters." I think the pages should be organized and added to in this manner (all the tabs represent folders within each page):

  • Fairy Tail (all the members of Fairy Tail):
    • Team Natsu
    • Master & S-Class
    • Other members
    • New members
    • Former members
  • Official Guilds (all the official guilds in the series)
    • Phantom Lord
    • Blue Pegasus
    • Lamia Scale
    • Quatro Cerberus
    • Cait Shelter
    • Sabre Tooth
  • Dark Guilds (all the dark guilds in the series)
    • Oracion Seis
    • Grimoire Heart
    • Eisenwald
    • Naked Mummy
    • Raven Tail
  • Other (everyone else)
    • Magic Council
    • Crime Sorciere
    • Tower of Heaven
    • Edolas
    • Exceeds
    • Dragons
    • Celestial Spirits
    • Others
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