Anime Panty And Stocking With Garterbelt Discussion

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03:00:37 PM Oct 28th 2012
A lot of the text in this page and its subpages is spoilered. A lot. Examples that are almost completely spoilered are annoying, and also a bad writing style; there's a note in the Tips Worksheet about it, actually.

Would anyone care if I went through these pages and cleaned up the spoiler tags? It'd mostly be shortening them to only cover the more sensitive information, and possibly rewording a few examples.

For examples: I don't think this is a spoiler at all. If it really is, then everything other than his name should be left unspoilered. Only her name needs to be spoilered.
  • Negative Continuity: After everyone dies and/or becomes a zombie by the end of "... Of the Dead", this might be the only explanation.
could be turned into
  • Negative Continuity: Everyone dies or becomes zombified in episode 7a. This is completely disregarded by the second half of the episode.
And so on and so forth.
07:16:12 PM Oct 28th 2012
edited by DRCEQ
Actually, the Face–Heel Turn really DOES need to be completely spoilered. Mentioning who is a spoiler, sure, but mentioning what is just as much of a give-away, considering how small the overall cast of the series is.

Everything else I agree on though.
08:10:25 PM Oct 11th 2012
"According to Jamie Marchi (English voice of Panty), all swearing was part of the Japanese directors' request to make the show as raunchy and vulgar as legally possible. Their reason? So the English dub can help teach the Japanese directors new swears and slang terms. For example, at the end of "The Buzz of the Beehive", Panty asks who's face she's going to "rocking-chair" first. Don't think too hard on that one..."

Is there a source on this? This is terrific.
08:44:08 PM Oct 11th 2012
She mentioned this at a panel at a convention back in July. I think it was Otocon, but I'd need to double check. I don't know if anyone was recording it or not, so I can't give an actual source. However, when I first read this on the page, I asked this to her on Facebook, and she said that not only was this the case, but it certainly made things easier and more fun in the process when she was writing and directing the dub.
07:45:01 AM Jul 11th 2012
Since my edit to Lost in Translation was reverted I'll make my case here.

The Transhomers spelling for the episode title is not a misspelling or a "goof" as the entry suggests, and since it does preserve the meaning, I find it hard to think that anything is actually being "lost in translation." Ho is a slang term for whore, it means literally the same thing, so I don't think it's an actual example.
11:52:46 AM Jul 11th 2012
Trans-whore-mers is a verbal play on the word Trans-For-mers. It rhymes and makes perfect sense in both English and Japanese. Trans-Ho-Mers rhymes with...???

You see what I'm getting at here? The English title counts as Lost in Translation because the verbal wordplay is gone, when they could have easily kept it.
01:30:48 PM Jul 11th 2012
If you'd actually said that in your edit note instead of something about the kanji which the entry doesn't even mention then I might have agreed. ;) But in that case the entry is really unclear, since while you raise a good point, the entry itself doesn't raise that point.
04:13:53 PM Jul 11th 2012
Yeah... that is a good point. I've had edits reverted in the past for being "nattery" whenever I explained in further detail the reason why something is. I'll revise it to explain it, for better or worse.

And in retrospect, my last editing reason was pretty confusing and lame. Sorry about that.
04:43:47 PM Jul 11th 2012
No problem. I'm gonna tweak what was there before since I think it still sort of leaves the wrong impression, but the part you added sounds fine to me.
05:16:55 PM Jul 11th 2012
Looks good. No further objections on this particular issue. Lets hope no others pop up.
07:43:08 PM May 28th 2012
Well, the official dub of PSG has been made available to Elite Subscribers on the Funimation website. I believe that we should replace the quote at the top of the page with Panty and Stocking's transformation sequence monologue used from the dub, which does a descent job reflecting the show's nature, moreso than juxtaposing two different quotes from two different scenarios; if not now, then at least when it becomes available to everyone:

"O, pitiful shadow lost in the darkness... O, evil spirit born of those drifting between heaven and earth... May the thunderous power from the garments of these holy, delicate maidens strike down upon you with great vengeance and furious anger, shattering your loathsome impurity and returning you from whence you came! Repent, you motherfucker!"
12:17:48 AM Jun 28th 2012
I'd be down for that. Though the page is locked right now for some reason. Incidentally, the whole show is now up for Elite subscribers on the Funimation site, so there's a whole lot more things to be added.
01:50:05 AM Jul 11th 2012
It looks like the page has been unlocked. I'm gonna go ahead and make this change, I think it fits better as a page quote.
04:16:43 AM Jul 11th 2012
Actually, I liked the quote the way it was. It sets up the reader with the basic exposition of the series before letting them see how vulgar the series is.
04:04:46 PM Feb 24th 2012
Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but in the main description, how does the link from the phrase "just plain old weird" show their weird ways of fighting ghosts? It's just a dynamic image of the 2 characters with a distinctly non-weird sword and gun.
05:44:27 PM Feb 24th 2012
Now that I think about it, the only thing really odd about that picture is the fact that it looks like a newspaper article. Otherwise, there's nothing odd about it, just the heroines in battle pose.
04:06:39 AM Dec 3rd 2011
I know this is probably just typical Gainax trolling, but I felt like adding this: to Sequel Hook.
10:30:53 AM Dec 3rd 2011
Is that actually official art though? Brief
05:27:44 AM Dec 4th 2011
I'm not 100% if it is official art or if there will be a sequel. It may just be a troll though, since it doesn't mention Gainax or anything.
12:16:46 PM Jan 20th 2012
I'm certain there won't be a second season for several obvious, completely unrelated reasons. I don't even know why the page claims othervise.
12:19:26 PM Jan 20th 2012
Besides "lolol Gainax is a troll", what reason is there to assume there won't be a second season when the first ended on a cliffhanger and the soundtrack made an actual announcement?
10:02:00 AM Aug 8th 2011
...why the heck is this locked?
12:16:01 PM Aug 10th 2011
I second that statement.
12:32:17 PM Aug 10th 2011
"Trolling", apparently. No idea otherwise.
05:28:38 PM Aug 12th 2011
edited by LanceOmikron
Checking the history shows that people were edit warring over Deconstructive Parody/Satire/Parody/Pastiche examples. Fighteer removed the examples and put up the following warning:

"Since you guys can't stop edit warring over Parody Satire Pastiche, the next person to add it will get suspended and the page will be locked. This is an official warning."

Inevitably, someone added it again.

04:20:11 PM May 6th 2011
Removed reference to a 'threesome between two brains' from the Mind Screw section. It's only two brain-demon-things, the shadows are just odd.
10:14:58 AM Jan 10th 2011
I think the Expy section of the article is becoming more and more antother Shout Out repository (and I'm guilty of this as well, I'm going to remove a couple examples). What do you think?
08:01:35 PM Dec 30th 2010
"This Is A Drill: In the season finale, Panty and Stocking somehow create a giant drill in order to defeat Corset. They accidentally fire it the wrong way and it pierces the heavens."

Pierces the heavens eh? I see what you did there.
07:54:40 PM Dec 28th 2010
I don't see why everyone is making such a fuss about Panty going back to not being nice to Brief when her big speech was about how she's a bitch.

Her not using Geek Boy alone, even when she kept it up after he saved her ass in 12, speaks a lot given that it's, you know, Panty. Plus we never really got to see them talking or just being them when they weren't in the middle of the big battle. We could have gotten more tsundere Panty (like ep 12), she could have kidnapped him to make use of his key and still gone on picking on him— Who knows?

Definitely got a lot better from the beginning, you have to admit that.
01:17:10 AM Dec 25th 2010
Shouldn't we get a new page quote, one thats actually from the series?
01:18:20 PM Dec 26th 2010
I'd suggest the "Fatherfucker!" line or the, "Fuck this guy, fuck that guy!" line.
08:05:36 PM Dec 30th 2010
I'll be up for it. There are lots of others that have yet to be listed.
12:31:31 PM Jan 3rd 2011
The 'Fatherfucker!' or 'Fuck this guy, fuck that guy!' line would work, especially if we juxtaposed it against Garterbelt's Opening Narration.
07:42:34 PM May 28th 2012
edited by immblueversion
EDIT: Made new topic
10:49:49 PM Dec 24th 2010
Was anyone else getting some serious Lordgenome vibes from Garterbelt after he took his robe off to fight Corset?
11:24:19 AM Dec 24th 2010
Curse this site's update pages and their ability to reveal all the spoilers for you at the least appropriate moments! 13th episode is now spoiled for me. Thanks.
04:20:48 PM Dec 24th 2010
That's why I never look at an articles change history before I've seen the latest episode.
06:01:46 PM Dec 24th 2010
edited by NoChorus
Speaking of which, goddamn you Gainax, goddamn you.
09:01:44 AM Dec 5th 2010
For Arc Welding; should I add that its averted, subverted, or just erase it because it didn't happen? Honestly I think the last one is too far, since there are still 3 more episodes left in the run, but I feel that when the trope was added they expected the episodes to be more in that vein, and it hasn't been the case.
05:07:02 PM Dec 5th 2010
Huh. It's almost the same as the Knight of Cerebus entry  * (in assuming that Scanty and Kneesocks appearance meant that the show was turning serious and/or gaining something more than an Excuse Plot).

I don't think it should be deleted, but I'd say it's averted so far, at least until the series ends. From the trope page it sounds like that in order for Arc Welding to occur, the heroes need to be beaten, or at least intimidated, by the Arc Welder aka the new serious villain, but that didn't happen in episode 6 (the demons may have matched the angels, but the angels still won and really didn't break much of a sweat doing so). Not to mention that the series continues to be crazy/weird, even when Scanty and Kneesocks appear in an episode. The most that occurred in episode 6 that fits the trope is the foreshadowing of the demons' boss, the mayor of Daten City, who's aware of Garterbelt and the angels. He'll probably end up being the true Arc Welder once he's actually revealed.
06:02:36 PM Dec 3rd 2010
Is there a trope for a character's powers being portrayed inconsistently? I ask because in "Transwhoremers", the girls reset to human upon transforming, but Stocking stays fat in "The Diet Syndrome" and both stay small in "Inner Brief".
07:00:44 PM Dec 3rd 2010
I'd say New Rules as the Plot Demands (New Powers as the Plot Demands doesn't seem like the right trope since the girls aren't really gaining anything), but I'd chalk it up to Rule of Funny with a hint of Negative Continuity (and possibly Plot Hole).
05:40:15 PM Nov 20th 2010
Okay whose this idiot that keeps saying things are "subjective". Half the the tropes he deleted were legitimate.
05:49:46 PM Nov 20th 2010
The tropes were all moved to the YMMV tab on the show's page, since that's where they belong. They were just deleted from the main page. I don't know why he kept saying "subjective" though. He probably thought the tab had always been there.
06:31:26 PM Nov 20th 2010
He said "subjective" because the YMMV tab is for subjective tropes.
06:28:24 PM Nov 19th 2010
edited by Customer
Question, but should we folderize the Shout-Out and Expy trope examples? There seems to be a lot of them and they'll probably keep growing until the series ends.

Also, I've moved a bunch of Subjective Tropes to the show's YMMV tab, since that's what the tab is for. I've only moved the ones that says to do so on their trope pages (i.e. a couple of the Crowning pages and Love It or Hate It). I hope I'm not over-stepping some sort of boundary in page editing by not discussing it first...
05:35:49 PM Nov 19th 2010
Is it still too early to tell if Scanty and Kneesocks are suffering from Villain Decay? Sure, they've only been in three episodes, but every plan they've had since "Les Diaboliques" has been more and more silly.
05:58:14 PM Nov 19th 2010
I'd say give them a little longer. They've been sillier, sure, but they would probably work just fine if not for Panty and Stocking. Hell, the zombies worked...sort of...
06:00:48 PM Nov 19th 2010
edited by Customer
Well, yeah, the silly plans are a part of how the show is. Remember that it's parodying other Western cartoons, like....well, mostly The Powerpuff Girls. If you've watched PPG, villains would randomly get a really awesome episode after a while, if they didn't get one on their debut episode (i.e. the first appearance of Him and the Rowdyruff creation episode). Hell, nearly all the villains from The Powerpuff Girls are listed as suffering from Villain Decay on the trope's page.

That said, personally I think we should wait until the end of the series (it's supposed to be 13 episodes long) before writing the demon sisters off as decaying, since we don't know if they'll bounce back by the last couple of episodes. You can add it if you want (since I'm sure someone will eventually) and I don't think any of us will complain.
07:13:38 PM Nov 19th 2010
Actually, I take that back. The Judgement Day thing was retarded.
10:12:08 AM Oct 30th 2010
Does this qualify for YMMV or "Love it or hate it"? From the forum posts I've seen, opinions of it range from "A fun break from the norm" to "unfunny juvenile crap".
07:21:51 AM Dec 8th 2010
07:57:41 PM Feb 22nd 2011
...That isn't an answer to the question.
12:57:57 AM Oct 25th 2010
Should we begin to delete the "Though Some Say it's on par with dead leaves" because the recent episodes blow FLCL out of the water in terms of sheer weirdness
05:48:44 PM Oct 22nd 2010
edited by Shota
I added the trope 'Something Else Also Rises' earlier. THEN it was deleted. THEN someone ELSE added the same thing and it's still there after a week!? Unbelievable!!!
08:25:13 AM Oct 16th 2010
May I propose that we relabel the episodes 1A, 1B (second half of episode 1, the speed demon), 2A, etc?
12:15:48 PM Oct 20th 2010
edited by Icchuchu
Or how about just saying the names of the episodes?

EDIT: Hurdurp, just saw the page.
07:04:21 AM Oct 14th 2010
I don't think this series fits the Tomboy and Girly Girl trope. Apparently, both sisters are girly: Stocking might look gentle, but Panty is rather slutty!

Maybe Betty and Veronica would fit those two.
09:35:54 PM Nov 28th 2010
edited by vehement
I don't think that that really applies either - Stocking is only superficially the straight man of the pair. While she appears strait-laced, she has no reluctance about public exhibitionism (a sexy nurse in "The Stripping" and posing for the cameras in "If Angels Wore Swimsuits"); she also evidently enjoys a good hard shag as much as Panty (even to the extent of boasting about stealing some of her sister's boyfriends in "Catfight Club") and her tastes are also, well, a bit kinky to say the least.
01:51:54 AM Oct 9th 2010
Given how Trope-tastic this show is already, and we're only on the second episode, I added a Character Sheet.
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