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DoctorFluffy
topic
06:50:39 PM Sep 18th 2014
Should we add an entry for Pattycakes? Cause... it doesn't look like anyone's making a page for that one soon. And thank God, that fic was awful!
SeptimusHeap
moderator
01:22:24 AM Sep 19th 2014
No, that is covered under the general 5P entry.
Superjustinbros
topic
03:09:31 PM Jul 19th 2014
I noticed that in the Red Link Club there was a page for "Pokemon Blackand White The Movie" mentioned. Shouldn't it state something like "you may have been looking for "Pokémon the Movie: Black/White".
SeptimusHeap
moderator
03:11:27 PM Jul 19th 2014
Might want to ask for a note here.
BobbyZ4
topic
09:51:28 PM Jul 6th 2014
The page currently says that "Cute Kids And Robots" was "pretty pointless since children's shows by definition feature a lot of children." Children's shows don't have to feature children in the cast. They often do, but it's not necessary "by definition."
SeptimusHeap
moderator
12:40:29 AM Jul 7th 2014
Eh, I don't read it that absolutely. Much childrens' material will feature kids.
chasemaddigan
topic
01:42:00 PM Mar 7th 2014
Some of the Red Links on this page are actually blue links now. Most of them are locked, but some aren't. I suggest that someone move the Locked Pages to the Locked Pages page and the unlocked pages be looked into to prevent future vandalism.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
12:46:02 AM Mar 8th 2014
This is an artifact of the new way the redlinker works; it shows a page as blue if there is at least one working page under that title.
TinyTedDanson
topic
07:00:37 PM Jan 16th 2014
edited by 5.66.16.200
Is there a reason Green Aesop is in red? It doesn't appear on the red link page and it links fine.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
12:44:31 AM Jan 17th 2014
One of its subpages was cutlisted and cut. That makes all the pages with the same title appear as red until you re-edit it.
Trollblade69
topic
12:13:29 PM Jan 2nd 2014
Why is Yugioh Abridged redlinked visually, but still a link?
Larkmarn
12:40:27 PM Jan 2nd 2014
edited by 156.33.241.8
Glitch.

EDIT: Fixed.
AnsemPaul
topic
03:20:24 PM Nov 24th 2013
Why is Ymmv Code of Princess and Persona 5 redlinked?

Its particularly absurd to see Persona 5 red linked.
lrrose
04:22:11 PM Nov 24th 2013
Presumably, the pages got cutlisted, which auto-locks the page.

You can go to this thread to request that they be unlocked.
AnsemPaul
topic
03:20:23 PM Nov 24th 2013
Why is Ymmv Code of Princess and Persona 5 redlinked?

Its particularly absurd to see Persona 5 red linked.
thevisualboy37
topic
07:30:38 AM Nov 15th 2013
Most of the links I have seen for Kaizo Mario World are redlinks, yet the page still exists, and it can still be edited.
Larkmarn
08:10:21 AM Nov 15th 2013
Little glitch. Looks like a subpage was cut, which for some reason redlinks a page until it gets edited. I fixed it with a null edit.
thevisualboy37
04:21:02 PM Dec 4th 2013
edited by 50.158.100.89
Matter of fact, there are a lot of links for existing pages that show up as red links (like the ones scene on Chuggaaconroy's Funny page). EDIT: Oh, so that's what you meant by a "null edit". Okay, fixed now.
notahandle
topic
08:38:26 PM Oct 18th 2013
Can someone add All Asians Are Alike as a red link club member? It can be near Heroic Sociopath.
morenohijazo
topic
03:08:44 PM Oct 11th 2013
edited by 83.138.198.171
Why We Are All Pokémon Trainers is now redlinked?

Also, for some reason, half of the links here are now blue, which nullifies the meaning of this page.
thevisualboy37
topic
05:14:23 PM Sep 16th 2013
It seems Rockapella is permanently redlinked now. Is it because they're mostly known for doing the theme song for Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego?
Telcontar
moderator
02:16:27 AM Sep 17th 2013
I assume it's because that page was in the Main/ namespace and was therefore cut (but not barred from having a page in the future). Musicians belong in Music/.
ryanasaurus0077
topic
02:01:14 PM Sep 13th 2013
edited by 71.80.74.223
Sorry to suggest a preemptive strike, but I was thinking a page on Beatrice Welles would be overly controversial, considering that fans of Orson Welles might come by such a page and fill it with hate against her for, among other things, tampering with Othello and only allowing the tampered-with mess to be released. Now, keeping Ted Turner's crayons away from Citizen Kane is quite understandable (and even Ted Turner himself said he didn't really want to colorize that film anyway), but what she did to Othello is unforgivable IMHO. However, I know better than to create a page on Beatrice Welles simply to drive that point home.
DynamicDragon
topic
08:49:34 PM Aug 31st 2013
I'm going to make a stand and say this: this page is too fucking long. Let's prune this list down to anything that actually needs to be gone.
Telcontar
moderator
02:18:11 AM Sep 1st 2013
If you have any suggestions for things which can be removed from this list, please take them to the forum.
DOSNerd
topic
05:15:42 PM Jul 26th 2013
I am not familiar with Zelda, but is it possible to wield a club in it ? If true, it would be a better pun to use an image there red Link wields a club.
kokoroanime
topic
06:13:29 PM Jun 23rd 2013
Would someone get rid of this Swamp Critters thing? Because I wasn't paying attention to this link saying the "Main" is suppose to be changed into "series" because it's a Live Action TV series.

This is the correct link. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/SwampCritters
Telcontar
moderator
11:24:41 PM Jun 23rd 2013
I've placed it on the Cut List, so the moderators should remove it soon. Thanks for contributing to the wiki!
PancticeSquadCutterback
topic
10:10:03 AM Jun 15th 2013
I would like to nominate YMMV.Well Intentioned Extremist.
ScarletYoshi
topic
03:25:23 PM Mar 31st 2013
About abbreviations, what can we do to clear the air regarding the confusion of "MW?" As far as I know, it stands for two things: MechWarrior and Modern Warfare. Considering the fact that Modern Warfare 3 has on its cover "MW 3" and that MW was the original abbreviation for MechWarrior 1 and 2 (in fact, the actual simulation executables were MW.exe and MW 2.exe), I just want to know if you the admins had some idea how to deal with it.

I'm only asking because I've seen a few YouTube debacles when people were bashing MechWarrior 2 and 3 videos when they were looking for Modern Warfare.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
topic
02:59:48 AM Dec 28th 2012
I think we agreed not to list these pages in the PRLC. Discuss it here if you disagree.
  • Main.Caligula: Technically this was cut as part of the new content policy, but is listed here as the most high-profile casualty of that policy. Though some users attempted to argue that the film had merits beyond its pornographic content, it will never be restored due to the precedent that would be set by allowing a pornographic work page to remain simply because of its notoriety.
Lokimaros
topic
06:26:52 AM Dec 5th 2012
edited by Lokimaros
Not having come across this page before joining the It Got Worse rename to From Bad to Worse, I left/created a number of PotHoles by leaving the original text, instead of adjusting the text to fit the new name. These may have to be addressed if it becomes annoying by inducing people to use the old phrase.

My apologies.
FELH2
topic
01:25:21 AM Jul 18th 2012
I noted that several of the initialism redirects don't work anymore. This should be reflected in the text.
EarlOfSandvich
09:16:57 AM Aug 17th 2012
In fact, I wonder why we should list initialisms here when there's just too many to list. I'm thinking we should remove that list and just say that ALL initialisms are deleted for good.
Antwan
topic
12:03:05 AM Jun 2nd 2012
I noticed a trope called Crowning Moment Of Horror is blank and locked, but isn't on the list. Anybody know why?
Telcontar
moderator
01:59:05 AM Jun 2nd 2012
Just being cut isn't enough to go on this list. It was probably cut for overlapping with Nightmare Fuel and all.
EmmaWoodhouse18
topic
03:53:31 PM May 22nd 2012
Are we going to list all the ones that were removed in the 5P purge?
SeptimusHeap
moderator
02:42:32 PM May 23rd 2012
^That would turn this page into a directory of porn and paedo-pornography. No thanks.
Kurtulmak
02:48:04 AM May 26th 2012
edited by Kurtulmak
It would help to know which works are off-limits. Being controversial isn't enough. For example, I came to this page via a link in From the Mouths of Babes to Kodomo No Jikan which is a locked red-link. I hadn't been aware that the purge was going to extend to works as well, so this took me by surprise.

If there's not going to be information on the page for the work itself about the purge, then it needs to be collected somewhere to prevent confusion for the majority of users who are not heavily involved on the forums. This site does attract new users occasionally who might want to know what the deal is.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
05:40:58 AM May 26th 2012
You want this place. Also, it's always a good idea to look around the forums when you have questions.
MrMediaGuy
topic
02:06:39 PM May 18th 2012
What about Heroically Aligned Reptile? Why was that deleted?
SeptimusHeap
moderator
02:43:45 PM May 18th 2012
Because of this
MrMediaGuy
10:45:19 PM Jun 20th 2012
So is it never gonna come back? If so, can we list it here?
SeptimusHeap
moderator
12:34:52 AM Jun 21st 2012
^No. Please read the comment in the page source.
Jojolavache
topic
01:54:35 PM May 7th 2012
edited by Jojolavache
I've noticed Creepy Sexy isn't on this list... And yet it's been cut.
TerTer
topic
04:35:25 PM Apr 15th 2012
Any real reason Sweet Apple Massacre was removed? There seemed to be no trouble with it as far as I could tell.
toonyloon
05:22:42 PM May 16th 2012
edited by toonyloon
It violated the 5P policy by being a trollfic that had rape with underage characters.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
topic
01:54:52 AM Apr 14th 2012
Re the commenting-out of the "paedophilia" and "sex" pages:

As mentioned here, nothing is decided there, so please don't add anything from this category here. It's premature.
MegaJ
topic
07:51:12 PM Apr 12th 2012
Baby Got Back isn't here, it was a trope but got cut due to people only using it for Perverse Sexual Lust.
MegaJ
03:35:03 PM Apr 14th 2012
Oh never mind, apparently Baby Got Back is getting a rehaul why they decide what to do? IDK.
toonyloon
topic
08:31:36 PM Mar 14th 2012
The real life section of Eldritch Abomination was recently cut. Would it qualify for the PRLC under the "no real life examples" section?
SNDL
10:21:30 PM Mar 14th 2012
Sure, just be sure to explain why it was cut, and neutrally.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
topic
03:26:36 AM Mar 11th 2012
Pulling the following examples and putting them here for now:
  • Scientific Progress Goes Oi: Not a Trope. Listed almost exclusively Real Life examples, and the Calvin And Hobbes-esque title likely confused certain people.
  • Baby Got Back: The page had an uncomfortably drooling tone in regards to descriptions of the relevant body part, and it was eventually decided that there was not enough of an actual trope for it to be worth cleaning up the page — the whole thing amounted to "people with big butts."
  • Innocent Panties: Overly creepy page about children's panties showing without sexual meaning.
  • Naked Shotaro Boy: Was a listing of works which feature nude prepubescent boys. Do we even need to explain why it was cut?
  • O Ring Orifice: Disgusting page about the ability of bodily orifices to stretch wide in fiction works.

Scientific Progress Goes Oi has no reason to be here - please don't add page here without a good reason.

Baby Got Back, Innocent Panties, O Ring Orifice most definitely don't belong where they were put, and I have doubts that the names are bad enough to have them here - it's about names, not pages!

Naked Shotaro Boy: Yes, you do need to explain.
SNDL
12:47:51 PM Mar 11th 2012
How about putting them is a new section ("Overly sexual pages", or something like that?)
SeptimusHeap
moderator
01:38:42 PM Mar 11th 2012
I think we first need to tighten the standards for putting pages here. It's quickly becoming a place to Complain About Pages You Don't Like
SNDL
02:18:26 PM Mar 11th 2012
edited by SNDL
I see. Probably we could include a hidden message for every section pointing out that complaining abour (or poking fun ot) cut pages is not the idea of the article. If all else fails, we should probably lock the page, but that should be the last resort.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
02:27:31 PM Mar 11th 2012
I already added one in the source. Let's see if it sticks, but I've the feeling that several sections don't belong here at all (cut then recreated, other/unsorted).
MyTimingIsOff
03:08:43 PM Mar 11th 2012
The "cut then recreated" section dates back to before we started autolocking cut pages. People would recreate pages after they were cut, and they had to be locked manually. Same goes for the other/unsorted section - many of them were perma-redlinked before cut pages were autolocked.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
03:15:38 PM Mar 11th 2012
Yeah. I am just not sure if we still need these sections. In fact, I think that the "cut then recreated" section can be deleted and the Did Not Do The Research pages can be added as a sub-group of the exampleless section.
MyTimingIsOff
03:41:52 PM Mar 11th 2012
I see no reason to remove them.

As for those 5 examples, I'd say they all belong here except for Scientific Progress Goes Oi. But they don't really fit under any of the current sections. They'd either have to go under unsorted or an entirely new section.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
03:57:32 PM Mar 11th 2012
I've the feeling that "other/unsorted" is an euphemism for "no good reason".

I can get behind Naked Shotaro Boy being put back, maybe Innocent Panties as well, but everything else's justification for being PRLC'ed is rather flimsy.
MyTimingIsOff
04:22:26 PM Mar 11th 2012
edited by MyTimingIsOff
Again, most of the "other/unsorted" ones are merely artifacts from before the autolock system was added. Even if they weren't the kind of thing we'd put here if they were cut today, back then this was for all cut-and-locked-pages. In fact, I'm pretty sure the only one of those that doesn't predate autolocking is Title Bin.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
04:28:37 PM Mar 11th 2012
In that case, the only item in "other" that is actually Permanent Red Link Club-worthy is It Looks Like This. The others can be removed, I'd say.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
10:18:16 AM Mar 12th 2012
I think that a reordering of the page into PRLC-eing categories would be useful:
  • Pages cut for creating issues on the rest of the wiki
  • Pages made in violation of wiki policy
  • Redundant pages
SNDL
03:03:39 PM Mar 12th 2012
Sounds good to me.
TARINunit9
topic
02:13:12 PM Jan 27th 2012
OK, so something is confusing me... according to the trope page "Pages that have been cut as of April 2011 are autolocked to prevent people from overriding the cutlist. This page is only for the ones that we don't want coming back ever. If it isn't on [the Perma-Red Link Club], you can..." yadda yadda yadda BUT... What if a page has been cut and autolocked... but doesn't exist in the Cutlist? For example, the page Ironclad is gone and isn't on the Cutlist. And it's not the only one, just the easiest example
FinalStarman
03:35:31 PM Jan 27th 2012
By Cut List I think you mean Recent Cuts. Anyway, Ironclad was cut long enough ago to have been dropped off that list. It was cut after April 2011, though, so it's locked. I see how the confusion came about, so I have moved the misleading link on this page.
Medinoc
03:05:21 AM Feb 1st 2012
Basically, It means that only people who know why a page was cut can fill the PRLC page.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
topic
09:22:51 AM Jan 24th 2012
Pulled from the page, because not all pages were cut. Also, I expect some discussion before putting it into the Permanent Red Link Club.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
08:33:29 AM Jan 31st 2012
FinalStarman
topic
03:57:01 PM Dec 1st 2011
edited by FinalStarman
Should Headscratchers.Furry Fandom be put here? I'm leaning toward, "Why even ask?", but I see no reason not to.

EDIT: Well, I put it there. By the way, is there any difference between pages like Headscratchers.Furry Fandom and Headscratchers.Yaoi Fangirl and general Headscratchers complaining pages? If not, then those two items can be removed.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
10:55:09 AM Jan 5th 2012
Which I already did. Their PRLC'ing reasons still fall into the category "Complaining About Things You Don't Like.
GMon
topic
07:12:23 AM Dec 1st 2011
Quick bit of advice, from one troper to the rest: when adding a page to the club, please remember to go through the wiki and remove any wicks to the new member. If the page was renamed, changing them to the new name will also work. If there are a lot of wicks, try asking for help in Special Efforts. Thank you.

This message has been brought to you by the time I just spent changing all of the remaining "Flaming Fruit Vendors And Angry Arabs" wicks to point to UsefulNotes.Middle East Uprising 2011.
ShadowHog
topic
09:07:20 AM Nov 17th 2011
edited by ShadowHog
I've noticed Fangame is both red and locked, making it an entry here. Any reasoning behind this? If there was a discussion on it, I can't find it. I'm assuming it's because it's Fan Sequel, but more specific, but don't know for sure.
Insignificant
05:12:11 PM Nov 30th 2011
All cut pages are automatically locked now. And looking at the edit history, the page was a stub.
SamMax
topic
10:04:14 PM Nov 5th 2011
edited by SamMax
Did Comic Party (an anime & manga based on a Japan-Only game) become a member of this? If so, why isn't it listed? If an article for it never existed in the first place, then I'll begin as soon as I get more knowledge about it.
Insignificant
05:16:52 PM Nov 30th 2011
It appears that Comic Party never had a page on this wiki to begin with, because it's not locked and I'm not seeing any edit history for it. If you want to make a page for it, go right ahead, Works Pages Are a Free Launch. Just make sure to put it in the correct namespace.
thevisualboy37
topic
02:59:43 PM Oct 11th 2011
Uwe Boll has been a member for some time. I'm guessing his work was being bashed and that it should go under "Unsorted"; am I right?
Insignificant
10:02:30 AM Oct 13th 2011
edited by Insignificant
It would go under "Pages cut and locked due to being nothing but complaining". I have now put it there.
tracer
topic
06:57:50 PM Sep 28th 2011
Big Wrong is now a member of the Permanent Red Link Club. It should probably be added to this page.

Problem is, I don't know which category it should be added under.
legoking831
07:50:32 PM Sep 28th 2011
Why was it deleted?
Fighteer
moderator
07:08:18 AM Sep 29th 2011
It was cut as a result of a TRS thread for being a stock phrase with no actual trope behind it.
legoking831
07:29:29 AM Sep 29th 2011
I guess I'll just put it under unsorted until someone comes along and fixes it.
DynamicDragon
topic
05:45:21 AM Sep 10th 2011
I have a suggestion. If these pages are too controversial to keep on the main wiki, why not move them somewhere else? It's a win-win situation: they stay off the wiki, and people can still see them
Abodos
03:14:14 PM Oct 15th 2011
Most of these pages were removed simply because they were bad pages. Moving them off the main wiki would simply be giving them too much credit.

Also, the Darth Wiki already exists for people to make pages for controversial topics. The fact that individual DW pages have been cut should demonstrate that mere controversiality is not really a criterion to be put on this page.
LittleDummyMax
topic
01:32:06 PM Sep 6th 2011
I'm surprised that Irate Gamer's DNDTR is not part of this club (even though everything on that page has been deleted) but his main page is the one that's locked. Honestly?
Insignificant
04:41:50 PM Sep 26th 2011
Exploder
topic
07:54:06 PM Aug 17th 2011
edited by Exploder
Why is Korean Language part of this club?
Gundamforce
topic
10:41:59 PM Aug 15th 2011
Since Troper Tales is gone, should we remove the listings of Troper Tales considering that every single Troper Tale is now technically locked and deleted?
Abodos
03:06:37 PM Oct 15th 2011
Well, we might still want to mention specific pages that were cut just so people know what went wrong with them and what to avoid doing on the wiki.
Spinosegnosaurus77
topic
05:12:15 PM Aug 12th 2011
Isn't the Celeb Crush Troper Tales page a member of this, too? Why isn't it listed here and why is it redlinked?
Gundamforce
topic
02:53:34 AM Jul 26th 2011
edited by Gundamforce
Readded Abu Ghraib to the page. Noting the Flame Wars it brings, I highly doubt we want that coming back.
LairOfRockwhales
topic
06:03:20 PM Jul 4th 2011
edited by LairOfRockwhales
<s>Why is {ptitle70n0mn3c} locked and blank? Wasn't there an article on Pokemon? If this isn't it shouldn't it at least be a redirect since about a hundred pages link to it?</s> UGH I don't even know what that page is anymore, it just appears to me as "Pokemon" and many pages link to it and it doesn't redirect for some reason.
Grobi
06:22:49 PM Jul 4th 2011
edited by Grobi
It's a redirect that looks like this: Pokémon. It looks like "Pokémon" but was linking to a "Pokemon"-ptitle [NO accent on th "e"!] It was way too often used, and was also a ptitle-redirect to a ptitle. Unwanted, unneeded, and thanks to the new system, we're now just using {{Pokemon}} (which gives us Pokémon - WITH an accent on the main page!).

Whenever you see ŢPokémonŢ (or ANY "[=~"-created ptitle, or a ptitle to a ptitle), change it. It'd be appreciated.

EDIT: Perhaps we should make it blue again - 'cause at the moment the "Related to"-Button shows absolutely NOTHING. We can delete it again AFTER we purged it from this wiki. ^^
Chytus
topic
03:06:14 PM Jun 30th 2011
edited by Chytus
On the page, the Lolicon thing is blue. Can someone fix that?
safed_sher
topic
12:29:10 AM Jun 16th 2011
Shouldn't The Unfair Sex be here? It's incredibly subjective and quickly turns very very creepy in a privilege-denying-heterosexual-white-guy way. There's so much rage on there against women (or men being "unfairly" punished for violence against women) that it's become pretty disturbing.
nuclearneo577
12:57:20 AM Jun 16th 2011
Take it to Trope Repair Shop.
Someonebesidesomeone
topic
07:48:14 PM May 23rd 2011
edited by Someonebesidesomeone
Should Villainous Sacrifice be here? i found the page started but not edited and without index, so i made the description and was searching for an index, when i found out the page erased and locked, so i'm asking should Villainous Sacrifice be here in the section "Pages for being cut then recreated" section?.

Sorry if in the past Villainous Breakdown was instead of Villainous Sacrifice, i should have commited a terrible mistake, i'm really sorry.
nuclearneo577
08:42:34 PM May 23rd 2011
edited by nuclearneo577
Never mind, I read the edit.
Gundamforce
topic
06:28:04 PM May 18th 2011
Why is Bruno Mars here? Shouldn't that be sent to YKTTW instead?
Spinosegnosaurus77
07:54:00 AM Aug 14th 2011
edited by Spinosegnosaurus77
Hell if I know. Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift have even more prevalent hatedoms, and their pages were created without a problem (and, as it turns out, little to no vandalism!).
VmKid
topic
07:22:18 PM May 10th 2011
I think this page should be moved to Permanent Red Link Club, since it has to do with the running of the wiki. Thoughts?
SeptimusHeap
moderator
09:34:17 AM Jan 29th 2012
Yes, go ahead.
FinalStarman
11:15:07 AM Jan 29th 2012
Seventeen months and an answer finally came.
ShadowDog
topic
08:13:32 PM Apr 14th 2011
How is Did Not Do The Research not a trope?
Kayube
08:15:39 PM Apr 14th 2011
Really, it's an index covering a variety of tropes (or whatever it is they're considered to be) and I guess we shouldn't have pages splitting off one group of examples from a page.
Smasher
topic
03:56:56 PM Apr 2nd 2011
edited by Smasher
The Troper Tales.Lolicon link is blue for some reason. Somebody fix that.
requiem18th
topic
07:27:33 PM Feb 13th 2011
edited by requiem18th
Who is this "we" so I can know who's ignoring me when I pray? Also, just found out that Crowning Moment of Awesome is being subtly and slowly pushed off the wiki. TV Tropes just jumped the shark it seems :(
DrStarky
09:31:29 PM Mar 1st 2011
Moment Of Awesome prolly won't go anywhere, we just want to keep it off the main page.

RedViking
04:41:29 PM Mar 15th 2011
edited by RedViking
Moment Of Awesome wasn't axed. It just found a new home in the Sugar Wiki, that's all.
nuclearneo577
05:07:32 PM Mar 15th 2011
It was always on Sugar Wiki...
AMNK
10:25:15 AM May 18th 2011
Administrivia. Go there.
BNJC1
topic
02:56:32 PM Feb 12th 2011
edited by BNJC1
EDIT: I found it again...wha?
Komodin
03:01:07 PM Feb 12th 2011
SeanTucker
topic
11:50:10 PM Jan 14th 2011
Why, exactly, are some of these redlinked instead of just being redirects? GAR, for example, could be a redirect to Testosterone Poisoning, Do Not Want could be redirected to Squick, et cetera.
Medinoc
11:08:36 AM Jan 15th 2011
GAR has been discussed in IJBM, but without reaching any conclusion. What I know is that it used to be a redirect to Badass, until someone made it a separate trope.

Do Not Want has changed its target too (first renamed to Translation Train Wreck which it redirected to, then became redirect to Squick), so perhaps it was too confusing?
EponymousKid
11:25:42 AM Jan 15th 2011
Do Not Want could be used to express emotions other than disgust, so I think it wouldn't be a good redirect for Squick regardless.
dsneybuf
topic
12:50:59 PM Dec 31st 2010
The link to Relationship Text Upgrade became blue again after I requested a closure of the Image Pickin' Discussion. How do we change it back? Also, why was the page deleted in the first place?
nuclearneo577
topic
09:43:18 PM Nov 30th 2010
To Glowsquid, thanks for fixing the link. Now I see that it is locked.
Twilightdusk
topic
01:14:18 PM Nov 10th 2010
"Unbirthing: A Squick fetish that you're not likely to see in non-pornographic media."

We have various tropes that only apply to pornographic works (we have an index for them even), so why is "this only happens in porn" a valid reason to cut-lock a page?
nuclearneo577
09:04:26 PM Nov 14th 2010
Maybe its older then the index?
BlobPinkDragon
topic
03:34:35 PM Sep 29th 2010
What on earth did GAR do to get red linkd? It was a good trope!
Duneflower
topic
04:52:14 PM Sep 28th 2010
Hunh...I thought So Yeah was (by the criteria given) more of a "misuse" deletion than a "bad writing" deletion. Could just be me tho.
SeanTucker
topic
01:30:25 PM Sep 26th 2010
edited by SeanTucker
(Nevermind, I'm an idiot and I need to read upwards.)
artman40
topic
02:55:40 AM Sep 7th 2010
I have a question. What would happen if I'd like to add a work to the site which happens to have a same title as the pages in Permanent Red Link Club?
muninn
08:59:16 AM Sep 8th 2010
create a namespace for the kind of work it is (to create a page for a webcomic titled Shadow Persona, type Webcomic/ShadowPersona.

You'd end up with Shadow Persona.
EtherealMutation
09:25:53 AM Sep 8th 2010
There's nothing inherently wrong with the main page, so I'm sure asking for it to be unlocked to create the work page would be okay.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
02:39:51 AM Jan 5th 2012
But putting a work on Main/ is not OK; see Namespaces.
billybobfred
topic
11:19:32 PM Sep 3rd 2010
Weegee is showing up as a redlink for me, but it does exist (a redirect to Mario is Missing!). Is this intentional, or a glitch?

I mean, Weegee is a meme, and we should not spew memes in Main/, but it isn't quite at I Am Not Making This Up or This Troper levels of evil, is it?
CentralAvenue
12:54:42 PM Sep 4th 2010
edited by CentralAvenue
Probably a glitch. If the mods didn't like that redirect, they'd delete it, not make it red.

Edit: looks like it's probably a glitch left over from when all the contributor pages were moved to Tropers/.
billybobfred
12:59:36 PM Sep 5th 2010
Well now it's red because it's gone, which at least makes sense.
VampireBuddha
topic
06:23:36 AM Aug 30th 2010
I'd like to point out that Please Elaborate wasn't originally intended to be used at all in YKTTW; in fact, making it YKTTW-exclusive was a last-ditch effort by its supports to prevent it being deleted, towards the end of its life.

When originally floated, it was supposed to be a predefined message which someone could leave on an ambiguous example. If somebody familiar with the work in question were to later stumble across it, they would see that tag and thus rewrite the example into a better, clearer one.

As it happened, it invited well-meaning natter. That's why it was deleted, not misuse.
OmegaMetroid
09:49:14 PM Jan 13th 2011
It could still be useful in places like the Fanservice, Fetish Fuel, and various Crowning Moment pages, but I don't know if it's possible to make a page that's a blue link there & a red link everywhere else.
muninn
06:15:11 AM Jan 14th 2011
It might be possible, but even if it were it would probably be more trouble than it's worth.
IronLion
02:24:12 PM Jun 7th 2011
What if Please Elaborate redirected to X Just X? That way it would stay a red link, but could be used in the edit summary when removing something for not properly explaining it.
nuclearneo577
topic
04:48:29 PM Aug 27th 2010
Other than there being no main page, is there any other reason for So Bad Its Horrible Software to be cut?
Reflextion
05:24:13 PM Aug 27th 2010
IIRC, it's because it was considered outside the scope of the wiki, and had mostly degenerated into Complaining About Programs You Don't Like.
nuclearneo577
06:14:24 PM Aug 27th 2010
edited by nuclearneo577
billybobfred
11:21:35 PM Sep 3rd 2010
Well, yeah, complaining is complaining, even if the shows you don't like are objectively bad. I won't be surprised if, eventually, the whole So Bad Its Horrible thing is removed from the wiki entirely.

I won't be happy, but I won't be surprised, either.
DrStarky
07:31:22 PM Dec 26th 2010
edited by DrStarky
Were here to catalog fiction, not just software.
Grobi
04:16:33 AM May 3rd 2011
We have DarthWiki.Idiot Programming; we don't need a So Bad Its Horrible-Software-section at all.
Ramenth
topic
01:37:52 AM Aug 21st 2010
edited by Ramenth
Why, exactly, does Do Not Want get a red page instead of being a redirect to Squick, given that's pretty much the only way it's used these days?

Edit: Same vein, isn't I Just Want To Be Accepted an actual trope, given that it shows up with reasonable frequency in both Heroes and Villains, admittedly generally only in shows targeted at a specific demographic?
billybobfred
01:31:20 PM Aug 21st 2010
Do Not Want: Good question.

I Just Want To Be Accepted: Presumably the person trying to launch the trope was... being unhelpful.
SeanMurrayI
01:32:20 PM Sep 18th 2010
Apparently, at some point, Do Not Want was a redirect to Squick (or so it's claimed on This Index Is Not an Example) but has since been cut from even that. If that ever was a redirect for Squick before it was cut, it might, at least, be worth pointing that out on the main article.
Twilightdusk
01:09:18 PM Nov 10th 2010
I can vouch that the creator of I Just Want To Be Accepted was being unhelpful, I was involved somewhat in his repair shop threads
billybobfred
topic
10:24:10 AM Aug 12th 2010
edited by billybobfred
So, does this cover all pages that are both cut and locked (Fred Durst, I Just Want To Be Accepted, Main.Fast Eddie), or just the ones that contribute to bad writing?
STUART
07:31:45 PM Aug 12th 2010
edited by STUART
I'd personally like to move all the red link descriptions on Locked Pages to this one. In fact, I think I'm going to do that. (After all, where do you draw the line for "contributing to bad writing"? What What Woah? Do Not Want?)
billybobfred
09:42:23 AM Aug 16th 2010
Yeah, I was actually going to suggest a separate page for cutlocked pages until I found this one.
RedViking
topic
01:37:03 PM Aug 11th 2010
The whole point is to draw attention to these pages. It could be useful tool to let others know what's been cut so no more links are added while the pre-existing ones are deleted.
EtherealMutation
01:59:35 PM Aug 11th 2010
I don't see why this is necessary when all the examples are on Locked Pages with similar (although less detailed) explanations already.
RedViking
03:39:36 PM Aug 11th 2010
edited by RedViking
Looking over the above, the difference is that some of those pages are still valid, despite being locked. Permanent Red Link Club is about tropes that had been outright cut or made red for one reason or another. There's a couple of reds in the Locked Pages so we could move them over to their own separate area, which would be this.
Cidolfas
06:49:08 AM Aug 12th 2010
I definitely want this page here. People need to know why pages have been removed and locked and will never come back so that they will know, for example, not to use So Yeah at the end of sentences.
Ghilz
08:04:37 AM Aug 12th 2010
I can see this being somewhat useful. I would vote to keep it.
billybobfred
10:23:47 AM Aug 12th 2010
edited by billybobfred
(wait this isn't a reply)
STUART
07:41:56 PM Aug 12th 2010
I'm bringing it back, for the reasons stated above.

Also, Fast Eddie made an edit to it, for what that's worth.
kokoroanime
06:12:54 PM Jun 23rd 2013
Would someone get rid of this Swamp Critters thing? Because I wasn't paying attention to this link saying the "Main" is suppose to be changed into "series" because it's a Live Action TV series.

This is the correct link. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/SwampCritters
TinyTedDanson
06:58:49 PM Jan 16th 2014
edited by 5.66.16.200
(accidental post)
HellKillUsAll
06:58:38 PM Mar 26th 2014
I'm just letting you guys know.

For the first time, the Westboro church (outside of Larmie and Theroux) was referenced in an episode of Rick and Morty, where Rick and the teenage daughter (all buffed up) beat up a guy carrying a god hates fags sign.
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