• 1 Apr 12th, 2011 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 13th Apr, 2011 12:07:45 AM
    What's the trope for when a comparison gets ruled incorrect in the opposite direction as implied?

    For example, in 1634: The Baltic War:

    Julie: Okay, that makes sense. Where do I set up, then? You have heard the term 'gun rest,' haven't you? Across this big a river, you can't make a good shot just standing up. Not me, not anybody.
    Harry: Relax, willya? Tomorrow we'll look around. We'll find something suitable.
    Julie (to Sherrilyn): Does this Great Commando Leader always plan his operations with such careful and deliberate precision?
    Sherrilyn: Oh, hell no, girl. Usually Harry just wings it.
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      Nevermind, misread.
  • 2 Apr 12th, 2011 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 08:44:57 PM
    Is there a trope for women in the military? Not Good-Looking Privates that concentrates on attractive soldiers, I mean in general. Reply
  • 2 Apr 12th, 2011 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 08:15:09 PM
    Do we have a trope for a person with cosmological bodies inside them, like things from stars to the entire universe(s), usually with stars showing inside them. Reply

      You mean that they literally have stars in them, or as Star-Spangled Spandex?

      Literally, which I guess we don't have. I'm making an YKTTW called Body Of Stars then, and if you guys are interested you could help out.
  • 0 Apr 12th, 2011 at 7:07PM
    Is there a trope for correcting a statistic someone says. An example when Steve and another detective are questioning Alphones.
    "What'd you do to this guy? It took 38 stitches to close up his wound."
    "Actually I think it was 48."
    Reply
  • 6 Apr 10th, 2011 at 5:05AM
    Live Action TV
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 07:01:18 PM
    Is there a trope for Buffy, the hero, going on Angel's show to kill Faith, a reformed bad guy, who the show's main good guy defends to the point of Buffy coming across as the villain this time? Reply

      Would What the Hell, Hero? fit what you have in mind?

      It's that line of thinking. Angel doesn't think what the hell Buff, he knows exactly why she's acting the way she does, knowing about evil Faith did that Buffy probably doesn't. It's more a case of Angel not believing she has a right to be upset, or if not a right to be upset then to kill Faith.

      It's kind of a double WTHH moment. For Buffy, why should Angel shelter Faith and try and redeem her? For Angel, what right does Buffy have to kill someone?

      Could it be the whole Slayers don't kill thing? Or maybe Buffy still fighting the dark side that Xander noted when she was set to kill Faith before?

      maybe Reformed, but Rejected

      I put it there, is there something from perhaps Buffy's point of view (she hurt me, I want to kill her) that might also work?

      It's Personal?

      That's actually part of the criticism over Buffy's actions towards faith. She kills the deputy mayor, holds Willow hostage and threatens to kill her, she kills some random scientist, and sure she's evil but Buffy takes it in her stride. Angel likely never said anything about what she did to Xander, but when Faith poisons Angel, suddenly Buffy's all for killing her, going so far as to ignore Xander's concerns that she will become Faith. What Faith did to Buffy is her justification to ignore Angel's bid to reform a repentant Faith, wanting instead to simply kill her. I put this under that trope.
  • 0 Apr 12th, 2011 at 7:07PM
    Do we have a trope for an older generation of heroes? These are the guys who, for instance, may have sealed the Big Bad away last time he caused trouble. Frequently wind up Passing the Torch to the protagonists.

    It would be a super trope to Older and Wiser, where the "older generation" is specifically the protagonists of a previous series. I looked, but can't seem to find it anywhere, though I've Seen It a Million Times. Reply
  • 2 Apr 12th, 2011 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 07:01:06 PM
    At the end of "Wicked," the Wizard learns that he is the Witch's father - after he was instrumental in killing her (or so he thought). In some other play, movie, or book, a parent learns, at the very end, that he or she was the parent of a character who has just died. It was very touching, but I can't remember what it is. (I am not thinking of "Rigoletto," "Star Wars," or "Oedipus Rex," all of which are somewhat similar.) Reply
  • 2 Apr 12th, 2011 at 5:05AM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 06:59:13 PM
    In which taking a shortcut exposes the protagonist to something amazing and thus includes them in the plot. For example: Alice took a shortcut on her way home, and it was on the "shortcut path" that she saw a random cute animal who makes her a magical girl, and the audience can't help but think "Wow, and if you HADN'T taken the shortcut, it never would have happened." Reply
  • 0 Apr 12th, 2011 at 6:06PM
    Is there a Play By Post Roleplay trope for when there are inconsistencies in the story due to the player's mistakes?

    For example, Alice may be in the kitchen, but in the next post Bob is talking right next to Alice in the bedroom, while Charlie picks up a kitchen knife and puts it to her throat.

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  • 0 Apr 12th, 2011 at 6:06PM
    That's tropes does the song "you make me feel like a whore" fall under Reply
  • 1 Apr 12th, 2011 at 3:03PM
    Film
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 05:25:37 PM
    Mainly film and television, but may be present in other media.

    I'm looking for a trope that describes the common situation within certain genres of films dealing with various kinds of disaster, wherein the main protagonist, whom the viewers have been led to believe is 'the only one who can help' - the one whose special knowledge or experience uniquely qualifies him to resolve the situation - is constantly thwarted by those in positions of authority, often for no good in-universe reason (the real world reason, of course, being to build additional dramatic tension).

    I'm sure Jack Bauer has been in this situation on several occasions, and I know I've seen it in at least two Syfy movies, but the classic example I saw the other night was from the film 'Outbreak', where Dustin Hoffman's character has constantly to fight against his superiors to involve himself in the outbreak of a deadly plague about which he is a leading expert, and then to implement the solution he and the viewers know is the only way to save thousands of innocent lives.

    I have searched, but can't find anything that quite fits this particular bill. Reply
  • 2 Apr 11th, 2011 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 04:41:14 PM
    Is their a trope for games with multiple Optional Party Members, where recruiting one character prevents you from recruiting another or causes someone else to leave the party? Note that I'm not talking about size limits, I'm talking about two characters whose recruitment are mutually exclusive. Reply
  • 2 Apr 12th, 2011 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 04:31:47 PM
    I seem to remember there being a trope called "Star Shaped Mac-Guffin". If it did exist, why did that get cut? Reply
  • 4 Apr 10th, 2011 at 4:04PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 04:07:59 PM
    Any tropes on stopped clocks? Generally it is to show a disaster has broken them or cut the power. Reply

      Nothing?

      How Did We Miss This One?

      I feel certain we've got it, but if something doesn't come up soon, take it to YMMV. We should have this trope, if only because you see it all the time in older murder mysteries (e.g. the killer breaks the victim's watch to suggest a different time of death). Granted, it's a slightly Discredited Trope in the era of cellphones/smartphones

      How Did We Miss This One?

      I feel certain we've got it, but if something doesn't come up soon, take it to YMMV. We should have this trope, if only because you see it all the time in older murder mysteries (e.g. the killer breaks the victim's watch to suggest a different time of death). Granted, it's a slightly Discredited Trope in the era of cellphones/smartphones

      I think I will take it to YKTTW
  • 2 Apr 9th, 2011 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 11:48:23 AM
    Is there a trope for when the monster eats something that makes noise, and its subsequant attacks are heralded by the sound of that object from inside the creature? The most famous example would be the crocodile from Peter Pan, which had swallowed a ticking clock, but it's also been used in the Tremors franchise (Graboid eats boom box), the novel Sewer, Gas & Electric (mutant shark eats musical wristwatch), and as a fake-out in Jurassic Park 3 (dinosaur eats a satellite phone, which is later heard ringing from what turns out to be a pile of poo, not an attacking dino). Reply

      iSophagus

      That's related, but not quite the same thing: an iSophagus replaces the voice of a character with music, whereas the monster-swallows-noisemaker scenario usually applies to creatures that don't speak anyway. And the sound is continuous in the examples given, not limited to when somebody opens their yap.
  • 2 Apr 9th, 2011 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 10:00:47 AM
    Slamming into a wall and slowly sliding down it. (note: this is not wall slump, it is when it is used for comedy). Reply
  • 9 Apr 8th, 2011 at 8:08AM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 09:31:45 AM
    Do we have a trope for a military officer possessing an improbably large number of medals and other decorations for their age/rank/length of service? Reply

      We have Improbable Age and Child Soldiers. Also Wise Beyond Their Years.

      So nothing specifically about medals/decorations? Like, say...

      1. An army officer has so many medals nailed to his uniform that one would expect him to be a four-star general, but he turns out to be only a captain.

      2. An army general has more medals than a normal general could ever achieve in a lifetime. Might be because he's a Four-Star Badass.

      Bling of War maybe? The thing about a newly promoted guy displaying far larger-than-normal insignia I think might be a trope, along with the guy deliberately giving himself better ranking than he actually does.

      Bling of War is about an onstensibly field-combat uniform that should be very impractical for fighting battles in, and would've been more appropiate as a formal dress uniform - the only way for it to work would be via Rule of Cool (and Refuge in Audacity for the should-be-impossible-to-fight-in-this-getup examples). That's not what I'm actually looking for.

      So, nothing at all, huh? Guess I'll try thinking of a YKTTW draft incorporting this concept.

      Subtrope of Mary Tzu, perhaps?

      I suppose that could be possible, but actually what the OP is describing makes me think of a character who really couldn't have earned all those medals, like a Miles Gloriosus or other "fake" general.

      Perhaps a subtrope of both? This probably is one for YKTTW.

      Close, but not quite. It's more like "No way he could a Real Life officer earn all those medals in a single lifetime; being that good is simply superhuman."

      Of course, I admit that a Miles Gloriosus who habitually takes undeserved credit or enjoys nepotism can very well come across as the above superficially.

      Of course now days, some armies will give you a ribbon just for completing your job assignment without being a complete screwup. They call is a "PCS Award" because it is pretty much automatic whenever you have a permanent change of station.
  • 1 Apr 12th, 2011 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 08:20:45 AM
    Imagine two chessmasters playing "against" each other. One can see the tension between the two as they try to out-Xanatos, out-Yagami, or out-vi Britannia each other, whatever you want to call it.

    Then the narrative reveals that the whole thing was a set-up.

    Sort of like Kayfabe, where every conflict is planned out, but this one spans nations, galaxies, large-scale conflicts like that. And nobody ever suspects a thing. Reply
  • 8 Apr 6th, 2011 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 07:30:05 AM
    What is the trope for when a character is so obsessed with some fictional trait (such as vampires, werewolves, ninjas, pirates) that he (or she) is utterly convinced that he himself is one? Reply

      Daydream Believer?

      Not quite. The closest subtype listed on the page was people who thought they were those things in some other world or consciousness or whatever, and that's not quite what I'm looking for. Picture a kid going around a totally normal school or town acting like a dramatized vampire or ninja. In fact, I think I see this a lot in comedy, where there's that one recurring background character who constantly pretends s/he's something else, so it's got to have been troped by now.

      Changeling Fantasy?

      No, that's not it at all, sorry.

      I Wish It Were Real, I Just Want to Be Special, I Just Want to Be Badass?

      It sounds like its kinda related to Vampire Wannabe, but other than that I've got nothing.

      No, not quite...damn. >.< Thanks anyway guys. I have a great reconstruction example from an obscure source, so it sucks that there's (apparently) nowhere to put it.

      A bit of an overlap with Being Human Sucks (Type 3)?
  • 3 Apr 9th, 2011 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 12th Apr, 2011 03:35:24 AM
    So in a group of friends, there's usually that one guy that nobody seems to like. Yes he hangs around the rest of the group, but this is the character that's usually very socially awkward, a major buzzkill, or overall weirds everyone else out. This is the guy that the others groan about whenever he comes around, but somehow is allowed to stick with them because everyone else is just too polite to tell him off. Reply

      The Load?

      I'm not 100% sure if that fits. The Load at least has some reason about him that the group HAS to keep him with them. I'm talking about an annoying character that hangs around the cast whom nobody likes, but the cast is simply too polite to just kick him out.

      I think Dane Cook said it best in a joke where he's talking about "fucking Brian", called so because whenever he shows up and comes towards his friends, they're always saying, "Shit...it's fucking Brian".

      Nightmare Fuel Station Attendant - for weirding people out Jerk Ass - for being annoying/buzzkill No Social Skills - it might have links closer to what you're looking for
  • 1 Apr 11th, 2011 at 8:08PM
    Lastest Reply: 11th Apr, 2011 09:06:15 PM
    Do we have a Gift From The Gods type trope, as a counterpart to a Deal with the Devil. Reply
  • 5 Apr 11th, 2011 at 12:12AM
    Lastest Reply: 11th Apr, 2011 07:39:10 PM
    Do We Have This One??

    I'm taking a gender class in college, and we just talked in class recently about how elderly people are not expected to have and/or want sex. Do we have a trope about that? I feel like there must be something. I checked the Gender and Sexuality tropes and the Sex tropes and didn't see anything, but I might have missed it. Reply

      I know we have the opposites (Dirty Old Man and Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have). Old people not having sex might be a case of People Sit on Chairs.

      Thanks for the reply. When you say it could be People Sit on Chairs, what exactly do you mean? That it's a very common cliche' assumption? I could see what you mean with that. Perhaps subversions of it could still merit a trope, though? I watched a massive subversion of the concept of old people not having/wanting sex in class the other day: a documentary titled "Still Doing It: The Intimate Lives of Women Over 60" [1] I know that might be Squick to some, but to those people I say, "Fine, when you're old you're not allowed to have sex." :p

      There's Nobody Over 50 Is Gay, that's sort of related. And to link to a one-word trope, enclose it in two sets of curly brackets. To look at examples, you can click on the "source" button at the top of a trope page to see how it was put together.

      there is a (small) section in Acceptable Sexualtargets

      I found the section referred to in Acceptable Sexual Targets. It seems to be what I was thinking, although if anyone thinks it could use its own trope page I could start one (after going through YKTTW).
  • 2 Apr 11th, 2011 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 11th Apr, 2011 04:41:16 PM
    Do we have a trope for a location that is stored in an object? For example storing a house in a ring or something? The closest thing I can find is Hammerspace Hideaway and that's not exactly what I'm looking for. Reply

      Bag of Holding? There are other examples in the Hyperspace Index.

      That wasn't really what I was looking for. I'm trying to find a trope for this case; a character has a magic pendent which transforms the surrounding area into a quiet forest retreat when it used. Nothing in the Hyperspace Index felt like it fit properly to me.
  • 2 Apr 10th, 2011 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 10th Apr, 2011 10:54:10 PM
    Which one is it again where you're watching something old and thinking how cliche it is, when those elements weren't cliches when the work was created? Reply
  • 3 Apr 10th, 2011 at 3:03PM
    Lastest Reply: 10th Apr, 2011 10:48:25 PM
    How do I ask for their help? Reply

      Who's help?

      The YKTTW people's help in getting ideas for my YKTTW page. (Sorry, I meant to respond to my own comment, but I accidentally clicked on the 'new topic' button down below instead of on the 'reply' button.)

      Go to the YKTTW, click 'Add', and propose your trope. People will reply if they have ideas or examples.
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