• 1 Jan 16th, 2018 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Jan, 2018 05:24:03 PM
    Do we have a trope that deals with two people having the same name and with one of them having a problem with it? Reply
  • 1 Jan 16th, 2018 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Jan, 2018 02:52:51 PM
    Do we have a trope for doctors whose greatest failure is that they failed to save the life of a loved one? I know I've seen it a couple times! Reply
  • 1 Jan 16th, 2018 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Jan, 2018 12:33:36 PM
    A character of extreme power summons and deploys a smaller goon to dispatch someone else, as per the Sorting Algorithm of Evil, with the expressed intent that doing so is less likely to cause collateral damage.

    For example, a Physical God offers a Bounty Hunter a giant pile of cash and a magic gauntlet if he can beat up the abusive father of a child he has taken pity on. When asked why, if he is so powerful, he doesn't do it, he replies, "It's one abusive dad, and I don't know how to attack him in a way that wouldn't unleash Armageddon, and that would defeat the whole point of saving the poor kid."

    What trope(s) does that align with? Reply
  • 0 Jan 16th, 2018 at 11:11AM
    Videogame
    Do we have a trope for games that don't have an explicit time limit (as in, no countdown timer or anything), but where some mechanism will eventually result in a game over if the player doesn't win first? I'm thinking of XCOM 2, where you can delay the Advent Project but not actually stop it. Or is that just a variant of Timed Mission? Reply
  • 2 Jan 15th, 2018 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Jan, 2018 09:25:01 AM
    Most of the examples of Insult Backfire are situations where one person attempts to insult another, but the target doesn't take the comment as an insult.

    What I'm looking for is a trope where the speaker insults another person, but in doing so inadvertently insults themself.

    The situation I'm thinking of comes from real life (17th century Germany, to be specific). Princess Charlotte, married to Prince Karl, searches the room of Luise, a Lady-in-Waiting. There, she finds love letters Karl has written to Luise, along with some of her own jewels that Karl had given to Luise. Charlotte calls in Karl's sisters, shows them the jewels, and says, "Princesses, these are the rewards of a whore! Shouldn't they be mine?" Karl's sisters find that comment hilarious. Is that an Insult Backfire?

    (This question was previously submitted to Ask The Tropers but I was advised to ask here instead.) Reply
  • 1 Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Jan, 2018 08:40:32 AM
    Is there a name for when the protagonist believes something about a person based on their looks and then turn out to be wrong? For ex: one show has a girl being afraid of asking another girl for help because "she kind of looks like a bitch", but when she eventually does talk to her, she finds out she's actually really nice. I reckon it's different from Good All Along because again, this is something based on the protagonist's own presumptive mind than the narrative itself making a character come off as the opposite way they actually are.

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  • 1 Jan 16th, 2018 at 3:03AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 16th Jan, 2018 04:11:40 AM
    Where the appearance of a character (usually someone imporant, like a very rich dad or a high-ranking government official) is hidden, because they are permanently surrounded by a horde of suit-clad, sunglasses-wearing, no-nonsense looking bodyguards.

    Usually is a recurring joke for a character, the joke being that we never really get to see the person and what they look like.

    I have an example that explains the visual aspect of the trope, but not necessarily the intent (because this character is only obscured for a moment, where this trope is more focused on characters permanently or near-permanently traveling with bodyguard cover, as if the bodyguards were cardboard cut outs taped to a car).

    https://youtu.be/mLVmocdbJbw?t=19s

    While the "president" is , in the first few seconds, hidden by his bodyguards, THAT is an example of the visual aspect. If it were fully aligned with the idea of this trope, then the president would never have been revealed on screen. Reply
  • 2 Jan 15th, 2018 at 9:09AM
    Lastest Reply: 16th Jan, 2018 01:31:49 AM
    Is there a trope that addresses characters intended to be the love interest of the protagonist (and usually also the audience) that are given minor, easily forgiven flaws so they're kept out of Gary Stu/Mary Sue territory but objectively have nothing resembling any kind of serious flaws that would make it at all challenging to fall in love with them? In fact, these "flaws" are usually thinly-veiled positives.

    To give some examples: -a female character who has a quick temper...but it's okay because she's cute and "spunky" when she's angry and she never does anything overly malicious due to anger anyway.

    -a male character who's brooding and mysterious...but unraveling his enigma makes him enticing and there’s nothing truly dark or destructive behind his brooding nature in the first place.

    In both cases, these are characters that are imitations of real flawed people with ACTUAL baggage, because their "flaws" will never be more than a "speedbump to romance", as they're so easily overlooked and have no lasting impact on themselves or the protagonist, with the "flaws" usually being fixed entirely by the end of the story arc (which just shows you how laughably unrealistic these kinds of characters are).

    The girl with a quick temper will never trash the protagonist's apartment, destroying everything he owns, and forcing her to face the fact that she has serious anger issues. The brooding boy will never be revealed to have a deep, crippling fear of intimacy and human contact that will take years of therapy to treat.

    Instead, these flaws will remain largely superficial and, worse yet, be entirely "fixable".

    Is there anything this trope fits under? It's really not a Mary Sue/Gary Stu we're talking about here because that's usually the protagonist and they're known for having NO flaws. Reply

      Try Informed Flaw and Compressed Vice, if those aren't it, the trope pages have plenty of links to similar tropes that might fit your situation better.

      Seconding Informed Flaw, in the "these flaws never seem to make their lives difficult" kind of way. Also, approaching it from the other end, the concept of "applying realistic consequences to a trope" is Deconstruction. To take your example, a fictional Tsundere is endearing in her mood swings, but a Deconstruction might notice that these mood swings are a red flag in a relationship and reveal her to be seriously messed up.
  • 0 Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:10PM
    A usually in-universe trope where Bob comes to realize that Alice is very badass/skilled/smart/ruthless etc.

    For example:
    • In The Punisher MAX the Kingpin asks what kind of hitman goes around with a bullseye tattooed on his forehead, Bullseye counters with "What kind of hitman goes around with a bullseye tattooed on his forehead and is still alive to brag about it?". He gets the job.
    • In Discworld Carrot steals a wolf from a lynch mob by throwing its "dead" body on his horse and claiming that the noise it made was just air escaping the corpse. The narration then goes on to describe the thought process of the crowd, which goes something like "to speak so matter-of-factly, this man must have seen a great many freshly-made corpses, which he probably was responsible for, let's not tick him off".

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  • 1 Jan 15th, 2018 at 7:07PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 08:09:33 PM
    Technically more of an Audience Reaction, but here goes.

    Alice: In [movie] do you think that rich guy who lives atop that hill is the founder of the town?
    Bob: Not possible - it's said the town was founded in 1802. He'd have to be 200 years old.
    Alice: But it's a movie set in a world where people can move things with their minds!
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  • 5 Jan 15th, 2018 at 1:01PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 06:26:25 PM
    Do we have a trope for somebody who's technically not a Badass Normal because they do have powers, but the powers are so useless or situational that they often or always have to fight without them, but they still kick ass? Reply

      Heart Is an Awesome Power?

      No, that's when the power is way more useful than it sounds. I'm talking about when they were genuinely dealt a terrible (or at least non-combat-related) power and still manage to be a badass in spite of effectively being powerless.

      Fight Like A Normal?

      I suppose that's the closest we have, though that's really like saying we don't need the Badass Normal trope because we alrady have Muggle, so maybe it's still tropeworthy...

      If the allegedly lame power doesn't actually affect them, it could be Informed Flaw.
  • 1 Jan 15th, 2018 at 2:02PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 05:24:46 PM
    Is there a trope for when an android (or similar automaton) has their mind, their personality, and even their memories based on/taken from a living person?

    A couple of spoiler-ish examples:

    Persona 4: Arena: Labrys's mind and personality are based on an Ill Girl whose dying wish was to go to school, thus leading to Labrys's mental world in the TV world being a copy of Yasogami High, where she is student council president.

    Fallout 4: Nick Valentine's mind is based on a brain scan performed on a pre-war detective, leaving to a bit of angst as he doesn't know where Nick the pre-war detective ends and where Nick the synth detective begins. Reply
  • 3 Jan 15th, 2018 at 6:06AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 05:20:09 PM
    What's the trope that is the reverse of Aggressive Submissive, i.e being a calm/meek person normally but turns into a domineering one on the bed? Reply
  • 5 Jan 9th, 2018 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 04:29:04 PM
    A Mauve Shirt has suffered a gruesome death in front of Albert, who stands there in a Heroic B.S.O.D., forgetting the ongoing danger until Bob yells something along the lines of, "We can mourn him later when we're safe, now let's move!" A Get a Hold of Yourself, Man! slap is optional.

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  • 5 Jan 11th, 2018 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 03:29:06 PM
    A hero and his sidekick break into Hell to rescue a demon's hostage. Turns out Hell is what you hate most. The chisel-jawed hero sees an overgrown field full of feral beasts. "I was stranded in the Serengeti in an aircraft crash. Had to survive in the wilderness for three months before I was rescued." His sidekick sees an office building full of stony-faced bureaucrats. "I was a temp before I became your sidekick. Everyone I worked for would rather stare at me than pick up their own garbage." The hero sets his jaw. "...Fiends." Reply

      Personalized Afterlife

      Alternatively, could be a subversion of A Form You Are Comfortable With. I recall an episode of Doctor Who where the TARDIS's computer projects a hologram to help the Tenth Doctor while he is slowly succumbing to a poison and chooses to take the form of someone familiar to him, to which he complains something along the lines of "choose someone that doesn't make me feel guilty to look at!"

      I was going for something that could be considered a super-trope of Ironic Hell; instead of a punishment that fits a crime, this is more like, "whatever the person will find most unpleasant". Like a boggart from Harry Potter - it has no form until someone sees it, then it becomes what that person is most afraid of.

      [wrong thread]

      Seconding Personalized Afterlife for the general idea of a personalized hell.

      Appearance Is in the Eye of the Beholder is in play here as well- each sees the same environment in a different way at the same time.

      You Cannot Grasp the True Form is involved, too, as each is seeing the hellscape and its denizens in a metaphorical way they can relate to.
  • 3 Jan 13th, 2018 at 9:09PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 03:22:04 PM
    Is there a specific trope for cases where the children's appearance always match the parent of the same gender, or is it covered by Strong Family Resemblance? Reply
  • 7 Jan 13th, 2018 at 10:10AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 09:44:24 AM
    In Olaf's Frozen Adventure Elsa visibly does this when Kristoff shows his holiday tradition of licking the moss-covered forehead of a troll statue. This doesn't seem to be covered by Vomit Discretion Shot or Vomit Indiscretion Shot, and it also doesn't look extreme enough to count as Brain Bleach. Reply

      Wouldn't that just make it Squick?

      A ymmv, no example, audience reaction, isn't a trope.

      YMMV and Trivia tropes can be added if it happens In-Universe. You can add the [ [ invoked ] ] tag to remove the YMMV or Trivia notice.

      Second paragraph on Stress Vomit mentions this scenario.

      ^^ Then any time a character is grossed out enough, then we could list that, and then we might as well make it a character reaction instead of an audience one... which I think we should do.

      Regardless, gagging is a reaction to this, not the mere feeling, just as much as outright throwing up.

      ^ But it still has to be mainly caused by stress. Being grossed out just makes it harder not to puke.

      Squick started out as audience reaction and suffered massive decay as a result.

      Your query might count as In-Universe Nausea Fuel.

      It's more about the gagging, but not throwing up, than simply being grossed out.
  • 5 Jan 15th, 2018 at 3:03AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 08:37:34 AM
    I'm looking for a trope where Person A says something to Person B, and Person Cnote , chimes in with what can only be described as a hybrid between Double Take and Flat "What." Examples:
    • Toy Story 3
      Jessie [to Woody]: Don't worry! I'll be fine! [whispers] Besides, I know about Buzz's Spanish mode.
      Buzz: My what?
    • Grrl Power
      Sydney (After indirectly insulting Anvil): Sorry. Really, I'm not normally like that.
      Anvil: It's okay. I understand being thrust into this group might be making you self conscious.
      Sydney: That's an understatement if ever a-wever a wunderstatement there was. Still, you shouldn't have to take it from both ends like that.
      Dabbler (two stalls down): Who's taking what in both ends now?

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  • 1 Jan 15th, 2018 at 7:07AM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 08:21:23 AM
    When a Long Runner has both a parody of something and the original thing in-universe, such as how The Simpsons has both social media websites "Spring Face" and Facebook. Seems like this should be a trope already Reply
  • 1 Jan 14th, 2018 at 11:11PM
    Lastest Reply: 15th Jan, 2018 01:14:33 AM
    Old people unaware of or confused by modern culture, usually music. Often exaggerated for laughs, by conflating musical genres (e.g. complaining about this "rap'n'roll" music corrupting the nation's morals) or holding views that would have been outdated before they were born (e.g. giving jazz The New Rock & Roll treatment or a French Catholic who holds that actors and performers aren't allowed Christian burial, both in the 21st century).

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  • 3 Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 14th Jan, 2018 10:57:49 PM
    What's the trope that's easter eggs that are disturbing? It doesn't appear on the easter egg page. Reply
  • 2 Jan 14th, 2018 at 5:05PM
    Lastest Reply: 14th Jan, 2018 10:54:22 PM
    Is there a trope for things that aren't networks experiencing Network Decay? Reply
  • 2 Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:06PM
    Lastest Reply: 14th Jan, 2018 02:21:42 PM
    Is there a trope for when the creators try to give a background or a family past to a character that never needed them before (for example, James Bond, Uncle Scrooge or Sherlock Holmes)? Reply
  • 1 Jan 14th, 2018 at 12:12PM
    Lastest Reply: 14th Jan, 2018 01:08:29 PM
    Is there a trope for when everyone in a fantasy setting speaks with a British accent, regardless of whether the story was made or set in Britain?

    Final Fantasy XIV, a JMMORPG, is an example. Reply
  • 2 Jan 14th, 2018 at 4:04AM
    Lastest Reply: 14th Jan, 2018 05:04:48 AM
    I was watching an episode of The Pink Panther called "Pinky in Toyland" and the Big Bad of the episode, Ricky and Weasel (Ricky, a large fat man) and Weasel (a small, Fake Brit robber type) were the main villains.

    Is there a trope for this kind of dynamic as a duo - one tall and fat, the other small? Reply
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