• 1 Mar 24th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 24th Mar, 2017 02:28:12 PM
    What is that trope where there is no story that overlaps episodes, like spongebob, simpsons, and family guy? Basically the opposite of having a story arc. Reply

      I found it. I was looking for Negative Continuity
  • 1 Mar 20th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 21st Mar, 2017 11:07:27 PM
    bermuda triangle Reply
  • 0 Mar 18th, 2017 at 9:09AM
    Western Animation
    a common trope at the beginning of an episode or movie that mostly shows up in western animation, but occasionally live action is when a group of kids (who aren't usually relevant to the plot) are playing football, frisbee etc until the item get's launched somewhere far off. one of the kids goes to get it and discovers something e.g. a supernatural creature or a dead body. or the child is killed, kidnapped or something else harmful happens to them, depending on the setting e.g. stunned with a spell.

    it's not always with children but it's the most common. Reply
  • 1 Mar 9th, 2017 at 6:06AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 9th Mar, 2017 02:29:52 PM
    is there a difference between when it's acknowledged by the characters and when it's just passingly noticed or interacted with (someone saying something about a cat or leaning on the fourth wall, an example being Gumball in the "Amazing World of Gumball" getting attacked by a cat and then proceeding to say he's "not a cat person") significant enough to make a seperate trope or nah? Reply
  • 1 Mar 8th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 8th Mar, 2017 06:12:08 PM
    usually not explained due to (un)willing suspension of disbelief (any time I notice it anyways) where a show with anthropomorphic animals will just as easily show a humanoid cat as walking through an alley or the sidewalk and even straight up noticing/ pointing out the awfully realistic cat. It's more so a double-standard for the sake of story-telling conventions. I only remember one time experiencing a piece of media (a video game I've forgotten the name of by now) that actually justified this by explaining what was previously just a house-cat actually becomes a party member of yours (ofc, it straddles the line between attempting to be cute and "get your breasts away from me" and yes I know I could just go with non-mammalian mamaries but that's too simple) Reply
  • 0 Mar 5th, 2017 at 5:05AM
    Western Animation
    In the show LegendQuest, the character Teodora, a ghost, is a gossiper, a tattler, and a yammerer (among other such things), but she has a hard time actually telling people when she's done good. What would be a good trope to describe this?

    As an example, in the episode where this character trait comes up and is discussed, Teodora saves the airship the protagonist and company are in from crashing. However, her coping mechanism of snarktastic Gallows Humor, combined with her lack of mentioning her part in saving the day, makes it seem like she's treating the situation as a joke - insulting to the quite-alive protagonist as he could've died. Reply
  • 1 Mar 1st, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 1st Mar, 2017 06:49:19 PM
    So, there's an episode of Star Wars: The Clone Wars where a bounty hunter hooks onto a speeder bike with a grappling line and ends up getting towed behind it during a Chase Scene. Is there a trope for that? Reply
  • 4 Feb 22nd, 2017 at 1:01PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 23rd Feb, 2017 02:30:52 PM
    So in the Star Wars: The Clone Wars episode "Senate Murders", the murderer is caught because they used a species-specific poison, were the same species as their victim, and this reveals that, as they'd poisoned a bottle that everyone was served from, they didn't drink. What trope is that? Reply

      Bluffing the Murderer?

      No, she poisoned the bottle of liquor that everyone was drinking from. The fact that the poison was species-specific, and the fact that she and her victim were the only members of the target species who were present, and were both poured glasses, was what got her caught — because the only reason she could have had for not drinking was if she'd known about the poison. There was no bluffing of any sort.

      I Never Said It Was Poison? She revealed she had more information than she should.

      No, the kind of poison used was revealed by the police detective investigating. The thing is that the murderer does nothing to actively implicate herself in this case. The other characters figure out that she was only pretending to drink.
  • 1 Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:06PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 22nd Feb, 2017 01:15:07 AM
    So, in the Star Wars: The Clone Wars episode "Mystery of a Thousand Moons", there's a prototype superweapon the Separatists installed in the moons of Iego that destroys any ship that leaves. The residents of the planet have come to believe that it's a curse laid down by a demon. What trope would that be? Reply
  • 2 Feb 19th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 19th Feb, 2017 10:16:38 PM
    In the Star Wars: The Clone Wars episode "Bounty", Asajj Ventress is asked by a group of bounty hunters where she got her lightsabers, and she says she stole them because she doesn't want to spill her backstory. Is there a trope for this? Reply
  • 4 Feb 16th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 19th Feb, 2017 05:50:29 PM
    What trope(s) would go great with this example from Bob's Burgers.

    • In Season 5 "Work Hard or Die Trying Girl", when Tina chooses to perform in Courtney's play, a musical adaptation of Working Girl, instead of Gene's play, she explains that Jimmy Jr. is in the play as Jack Trainer and she wants to get together with him, despite her playing Katharine Parker. Gene immediately points out a huge problem with her plan with Courtney and Doug backing him up:
      Gene: But your characters don't even end up together.
      Tina: We're all allowed to interpret the movie differently.
      Courtney: No, they definitely don't end up together.
      Tina: Eh, to each his own.
      Doug: No, they really don't.
      Tina: Well, comme ci comme ša.
      Doug: All right, well, now you're just saying words.
      Tina: C'est la vie.

      The last three lines are Gratuitious Foreign Language, but I suspect you're really asking about the whole "insisting that the plot can be rewritten to suit Tina". That one is several tropes at once:

      Tina is trying to invoke Romance on the Set; Doug, Courtney and Gene are trying to tell Tina that her plan is Doomed by Canon. Tina is also leaning hard on Death of the Author, the premise that everyone's interpretation oif a work is equally valid.

      Isn't she calling for an Adaptational Alternate Ending?

      She's doing that too, yes.

      These tropes are perfect. Thank you.
  • 0 Feb 18th, 2017 at 2:02PM
    Western Animation
    Toon trope. When the result of an Anvil on Head (or comparable) is not Accordion Man or Squashed Flat, it will be this. E.g. in Who Killed Who? by Tex Avery. Do we have it - I couldn't find it. Reply
  • 1 Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:12AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 17th Feb, 2017 01:38:58 AM
    I've got a thing from Star Wars: The Clone Wars where the planet Iego was sealed off by a superweapon in such a way that people could land on the planet, but their ship would be destroyed if they tried to leave. Is there a trope for this? Reply
  • 1 Feb 15th, 2017 at 5:05PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 15th Feb, 2017 06:13:06 PM
    in some animated shows where the main character has a steed or animal sidekick (Aladdin has Abu, Conan has Thunder, Hercules has Pegasus etc) there is always an episode where theyh ave a falling out and the steed leaves or is sent away and the hero may get a new steed who seems better but later regrets losing his old steed and they are reunited and make friends again. Reply
  • 0 Feb 15th, 2017 at 12:12PM
    Western Animation
    Is this too rare or too common to trope? "A characters head swings open on a hinge or unscrews off."

    This is used frequently in the Fairly Oddparents in episodes like Dog's Day Afternoon, Dream Goat, Mind Over Magic, and Emotion Commotion to convey to the audience that something psychological is happening.

    Dr. Finkelstein from Nightmare Before Christmas does this to convey that he's intelligent (and for added Body Horror). Reply
  • 0 Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:10AM
    Western Animation
    In the "Panda's Sneeze" episode of We Bare Bears, Panda and Nom Nom get involved in a cuteness competition when Panda becomes an internet sensation, and at first, he makes an arrangement with Nom Nom to lose the competition, only to have a change of heart as Grizz and Ice Bear offer him their support, and as soon as Nom Nom sees Panda's resurgent popularity, he hits Panda with a pillow after being double-crossed, and a feather turns Panda's sneeze into a somewhat gross and not-so-cute allergic reaction, with the audience walking off due to lack of interest, and no decisive winner (although Nom Nom would arguably claim the disputed trophy as his own).

    What would the main trope in regards to throwing the competition be called, and would it be considered a Betrayal subtrope? Reply
  • 1 Jan 29th, 2017 at 12:12PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 29th Jan, 2017 12:36:37 PM
    Done a lot on The Simpsons. A character will walk around in a black void with neon signs of bars or something going by. Reply
  • 3 Jan 21st, 2017 at 7:07AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 21st Jan, 2017 04:05:46 PM
    I know some animation series do it, like some Anime won't bother with teeth unless a character grits them, and more specifically, the Web Animation series Battle For Dream Island (along with Inanimate Insanity and all other Object shows with a similar/identical animation style to it) will not have teeth on characters unless they have a grit teeth expression or in exceptions such as "Weird Face" gags.

    And if it's not a trope, well, get on that please. I don't think it is... Reply

      Oops, mouse slipped, this isn't Ask the Tropers.

      Looks like the double post bug is here too.

      Sudden Anatomy.
  • 1 Jan 4th, 2017 at 3:03PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 4th Jan, 2017 04:08:47 PM
    Does any trope exist in which My Little Pony-like characters appear in other animated works or sketch comedies (such as SNL) mainly as a parody of or shout-out to MLP franchises (especially Friendship Is Magic in recent years)? If so, what would it be titled? Reply
  • 1 Jul 1st, 2016 at 10:10AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 3rd Jan, 2017 05:05:08 AM
    Is there a specific name for a moment where someone dies, not by a main character's hand, but purely by coincidence?

    Example: in Season 6 of The Venture Bros., when the Monarch becomes the Blue Morpho to get closer to becoming Dr. Venture's arch-nemesis, all the deaths that the Guild of Calamitous Intent believe was caused by the Blue Morpho are actually by coincidence. Like how the barbarian guy dies because he just fell down a very deep hole, Think Tank dies because he got run over by the barbarian guy's ex-wife and also fell down the deep hole, and the Andy Warhol villains die because the detonator to the bombs that Monarch and 21 planted on the Warhol lair dropped from Monarch's jacket, which caused the explosion. Reply

      Edit: sorry, nevermind, I think I was wrong

  • 1 Dec 21st, 2016 at 5:05PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 21st Dec, 2016 06:26:18 PM
    See here for an example. In short, the grocery store manager jumps back and forth between "You're hired!" and "You're fired!" to one of the show's villians. This happens several times throughout the series. Does this kind of repartee have a name? Reply
  • 0 Dec 6th, 2016 at 4:04PM
    Western Animation
    On the page for the South Park movie, South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (as well as the Western Animation folder on the Early-Bird Cameo page) it lists under the Early-Bird Cameo trope that Butters made several cameo appearances throughout the movie, but his properly named and voiced introduction wasn't until Season 3 (the season made during and after the movie's production). However, Butters' debut wasn't the movie; he has made appearances ever since the series' pilot episode ("Cartman Gets an Anal Probe"), though he was mostly a background character at that point. Isn't the Early-Bird Cameo trope only for the episode that a major character debuts in but only appears as a background character?

    Something that should be noted, though, is that literally three weeks after the movie was released, the first episode in the series where Butters is introduced and plays a major role ("Two Guys Naked in a Hot Tub") aired, so does that make the character a more accurate example of the trope or not? Reply
  • 1 Nov 27th, 2016 at 5:05PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 27th Nov, 2016 05:57:31 PM
    What's the trope for those PSA segments at the end of cartoons in the 80s and 90s like "Sonic Says", "Sailor Says", and the GI Joe ones? Reply
  • 16 Nov 18th, 2016 at 6:06AM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 23rd Nov, 2016 03:24:56 PM
    Do we have a trope for someone wearing or playing with small kitchen funnels to show he is mad? This is almost a forgotten trope (see The Extraction of the Stone of Madness) but it shows up in old cartoons like The Twelve Tasks of Asterix. Reply

      This sounds like a threesome of Too Rare to Trope, People Sit on Chairs, and shoehorning.

      Sounds like one for the Forgotten Tropes list, actually. It is in fact a thing, just a very old and mostly forgotten thing.

      Hat Shop includes Tinfoil Hat. I don't see why a paragraph about this couldn't be included there too. Edit to Clarify: A paragraph added to hat shop, not tinfoil hat. Rereading my post made it apparent that it was ambiguous what I meant.

      My problm with those answers is that according to the examples given, this trope NEVER existed. in The Extraction of the Stone of Madness, the one wearing the funnel is not mad, he is a midevil brain surgeon. A common depiction of the tin man has him with a funnel on his head, and he's not mad, just heartless. My examination leads to the conclusion that the trope as is described does not nor ever has existed.

      ^ You should tell Wikipedia, someone appears to have pulled the wool over their eyes.

      The inverted funnel is a symbol of madness. It appears in many Medieval depictions of the mad; for example, in Hieronymus Bosch's Ship of Fools and Allegory of Gluttony and Lust.

      It is possible that the flower hints that the doctor is a charlatan as does the funnel hat. ... Foucault, in his History of Madness, says "Bosch's famous doctor is far more insane than the patient he is attempting to cure, and his false knowledge does nothing more than reveal the worst excesses of a madness immediately apparent to all but himself."

      ^ But does that make it a trope? There are no depictions of this in Media.

      Beg your pardon, Sailing, People Sit on Chairs and Too Rare to Trope both specifically mention cases like this in their text.

      PSOC specifically doesn't convey any meaning (which as the OP points out, it does), and TRTT specifies it doesn't apply to cases when a trope is only in a very specific segment of media (even if the trope would only be recognisable to those familiar with it). Finding obscure and dead tropes is what this wiki's meant to live for.

      Shoehorning only applies to an existing trope (you can't shoehorn examples into a page that doesn't exist, surely?).

      ^But you can shoehorn a trope with no examples onto the wiki, which is what the TLP aims to prevent. You can also shoehorn meaning onto something meaningless, which as I stated earlier, the examples given don't align to what the OP wants the trope to be.

      ^^^ Modern media are only one part of what the site covers. Paintings and illustrations are a medium. Books are a medium. Folktales are a medium. Tapestries are a medium. Old political cartoons are a medium. Its a forgotten trope, but a trope nonetheless. The fact that you haven't heard of it only serves to demonstrate that it's been forgotten.

      ^And for the third time, the trope as is described does not exist as per his own 'evidence.'

      ^ Are you serious or just trolling? This is a thing. Look it up.

      I think "funnel hat as a symbol of madness" is mainly used in France — I've seen it in the comics of Gotlib, as well as in the aforementioned The Twelve Tasks of Asterix. In Italy (where I'm from) we often use spaghetti drainers as "hats of madness". I imagine this imagery is subjected to regional variations.

      ^^ What I am saying is that Retmma's first example does not align with their description of the trope. The man wearing the funnel in that painting is the doctor, not the madman. The tin man of the wizard of oz is commonly depicted with a funnel on his head, and he's not mad. You can keep saying it's a thing, but if no accurate examples are forthcoming, then I have to say this is not a trope. We've got one example outnumbered by two aversions. This is less than a Dead Unicorn Trope.

      Allow me to extend an olive branch here. This suffers from an overly narrow definition. The proper trope would be a madman wearing any item from a wide array of strange implements as headgear. Pots, birdcages, gesha wigs (and that's just tf2). If there's a trope here, it's far broader than just funnels.

      ^ I think you've got it turned about, and are seeing the trope as too narrow in a different way. The trope isn't "mad characters wear silly headgear." As pointed out in Daefaroth's links, it's actually "The inverted funnel is a symbol of madness." It doesn't have to be on the madman's head, just present as a visual indicator that says "insanity here."

      (Daefaroth's quote also makes the argument that Bosch is implying that the doctor is more insane than his patient, so the madman might be wearing the funnel after all.)

      ^Must I quote directly? " someone wearing or playing with small kitchen funnels to show he is mad..."

      Also, if one must 'make the argument,' that's quite the obvious shoehorn.

      Yes, this is clearly a good example of the Forgotten Trope. We probably don't have enough examples to justify a trope page, but it can be listed on the Forgotten Trope page (probably in the medieval section).
  • 1 Nov 18th, 2016 at 4:04PM
    Western Animation
    Lastest Reply: 18th Nov, 2016 04:47:12 PM
    I watched two episodes of Looped and both had the following situations:
    • The characters were Ambiguously Human (It Makes Sense in Context in terms of the show's universe) and acted and behaved human.
    • When the characters' true identities were revealed (Splash Hanna, an Expy of Madison from Splash - she was a Reverse Mermaid and Ronnie Trasco - a parody of Donnie Brasco - who turned out to be a Lion-O / Thundercats parody posing as human, it was a plot twist. Is there a trope for a sudden reveal of a true form?
    • Is there a trope for a private investigator going undercover at a highschool like Ronnie Trasco did?

    I'd appreciate it if anyone could let me know! Reply