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open TRS Crowner
There is an active crowner for Badass Beard at the Trope Repair Shop. If inclined to join the discussion, do so here.
This is only an announcement; please do not reply to this query.
open No Title
I was just about to add Meow Meow Inc to the cutlist for being a stub made in an improper namespace, but I'm a bit concerned about this line: "Along with our peculiar mental states, we find ourselves in just as peculiar situations, maybe or maybe not caused by telling each other to kill themselves." Besides this sounding like the article would be troping real life, this is a bit... concerning to me.
open Edit War Western Animation
For the past several days spiralvampire has been edit-warring in the High Guardian Spice page, removing audience reaction tropes.
- The first time the user did this, they more or less erased 3/4 of the page before it was reverted.
- The same user made a dedicated clean-up thread, was told to go to the complaining thread to voice their concerns and haven't done so.
- Instead they get rid of the tropes again unilaterally in two different edits, only the second edit was reverted. In the third edit, they add a Periphery Hatedom entry that comes off more as a personal rant and a case of Complaining About People Not Liking the Show. Only reason I don't revert it again is because the page is edit locked by a different user as I write this.
openPossible ban evader
Totally Cool is probably another sock of Europeiscool. Their edits are always the same, European nationalities, dolls, Totally Spies, and several zero contexts. See here
openI dont see any bragging in this Bragging Theme Tune
- "Tobe! Gandamu!", the opening theme to Mobile Suit Gundam with "Ginga he mukatte tobe yo, Gandamu! Kidou Senshi! Gandamu... Gandamu!" which translates directly into "Fly to the edge of the galaxy, Gundam! Mobile Warrior! Gundam... Gundam!". The whole song is a bit bragging, but mainly the last part. Andrew W.K. translated that part into "Fly away into the deep outer space, Gundamu! Mobile Warrior! Gundamu... Gundamu!", which still brags quite a bit, and sounds cool anyway.
openLocking the High Guardian Spice YMMV Page
High Guardian Spice, being as controversial as it is, has been a bit fiery with edits in the past week or so, with lots of entries coming and going, and at least one accusation of bigotry. Should we lock it for a bit to cool things down and handle any bias issues?
openPrerelease?
- Applicability: The Darkness, depending on who you ask, is seen as an Allegorical Character representing companies who take a work away from their creators, cancellation, growing concerns with the digital era.
- Fridge Horror:
- The main antagonist, the Darkness, is theorized to be a metaphor for what happens to shows that get cancelled or are ended after their finales. Running with this, this means that anytime any work of fiction ends (whether it's Left Hanging or actually gets to finish its story), the Darkness comes to devour that universe and always wins.
- Alternatively, it's a very screwed up metaphor for extreme Executive Meddling - shows can get regularly mangled and warped by the bosses thinking they know better than the actual creators, and the horribly distorted versions of the characters the Darkness has taken is a more literal result of this meddling.
- As people have pointed out the show could be a metaphor for a very real and growing danger that comes with corporations owning huge amounts of IPs and opting to store and give access to them in online sewers. The possibility a glitch, virus, hardware failure, or hacker attack could wipe it all out is very real.
- Lady Rainicorn is shown to be one of Pibby's allies. Jake and Princess Bubblegum are shown to corrupted by the static, meaning she lost both her lover and her best friend, and will now have to fight and possibly kill them. Also a Tear Jerker.
- Signature Scene: Fred Flintstone being assimilated into the glitch with other cartoon characters being shown assimilated alongside him.
Given it both a pilot and add for a work that may or may not become a full series, I'm not sure if this counts as prerelease. Does it?
If so, Fridge Horror should be cut as it no longer allows prerelease. Signature Scene is currently commented out, should it be cut as too soon to say? What about Applicability? Should that wait until we know what it is meant to be first?
openWhere do I go to ask to change an image?
If I wanted to change the image on a characterβs page to a picture of them I think is better-suited, where do I go to ask to do that?
openTranslated plagiarism?
A question: is it still considered plagiarism when an editor took a synopsis/promo/summary of a foreign-language work... but did the job of actually translating it to English?
My instincts would say "yes", but that it would also be a lot harder to notice.
openLeaks to cut?
YMMV.Pibby has examples regarding the leaked series bible. Note that it has yet to be confirmed as as full series yet and the entries note it may be subject to change.
I intend to cut per prerelease leaks policy unless anyone objects.
openEdit War on the Laconic for Crosses the Line Twice
So I got approval from the Laconic thread to change Crosses the Line Twice to β Something so offensive or tasteless that it loops back around to being hilarious.β. I did this previously but it was changed back. This time the tag in the edit history was ignored and it was changed back. This is always without an edit reason by the way. The troper who keeps changing it back is Herald
Edited by TheLivingDrawingopenEdit War on ComicBook/Estranged
(If any of you guys know me in the forums, you probably know that I do dewick 2 disambiguation pages, Bi The Way and Badass Gay, as these tropes attract wicks, even after they were disambiguated.)
On the 25th of October, CaesarGal28 added Badass Gay to the trope example list on Estranged. Of course, I deleted the example later that day, because Badass Gay is not a trope anymore. The reason I gave was "Badass Gay has been disambiguated. Do not pothole."
On the 26th of October, CaesarGal28 readded Badass Gay back on the trope example list on Estranged.
The second example that was added to the page was a ZCE.
- October 25th: Badass Gay: Edmund, who is quite powerful with magic and later gains a male love interest.
- October 26th: Badass Gay: Edmund/Cinder.
Of course, I read the Administrivia page Edit War, and know that CaesarGal28 was edit warring, as the third threshold says.
So, what should I do, before it becomes into a larger edit war?
Edited by callmeamuffinopen Schoolgirl Lesbians rename crowner
Schoolgirl Lesbians now has a crowner for renaming the trope If you wish to participate in the discussion, click here
This is just an announcement. Please don't reply to this post with comments regarding the topic.
openTheSinful restored deleted page
making a new query so it gets eyes on it.
The Sinful started a query about restoring the legitimate examples from a cut page; apparently no one copied them over before the cut. well and good; however, after minimal effort, Sinful abandoned discussion and restored the entirety of the cut page to the main page.
openSurprisingly Realistic Outcome for Cursed Blood
Did anyone save the approved examples (the cut page says there were "only two") because the page was cut without them being added to the main page so they're just gone now?
openFanfic Descriptions and Plagiarism
I noticed some fanfic pages got their descriptions removed because they were plagiarized from the synopsis of the story. Could they be put back if the author okayed using them?
openProduction Posse question Live Action TV
If I found four collaborations between Robert Rodriguez and Jon Favreau, but half of those just consist of one guest-starring on the other's talk show, do they still meet the Rule of Three, or must the three works all consist of fiction?
openSchoolhouse Rockz -- Troper restoring deleted page, restoring ZCEs without expanding
TL:DR: Troper recreating plagiarized page without consulting other users, now replacing plagiarized synopsis by filling it with bad grammar.
Long version:
Series.Schoolhouse Rockz — this page was previously cutlisted due to plagiarizing content from a review site, and now it was reconstructed with the sole editor being... this guy. (EDIT: EDIT history)
Who is the same guy who made the page first, several months ago, with the plagiarized content. After the page got the snips due to stealing its synopsis and barely having enough tropes with decent context, LWH somehow sees fit to recreate the page, ZCE and all. With a two-sentence synopsis.
I've never seen the show in question, but here's some colorful grammar on the page itself:
- "It focuses on an everyday life of a 13-year-old snobbish schoolgirl..."
- "This series consists only 6 episodes..."
- "Her hairstyle switches in different episodes. Averted, she is the girliest in Eastwood Secondary..."
Oh, and ZCE issues, lack of full-stops, and "X is this trope" in both the main page and the characters subpage. A bunch which I've commented out months ago with the dual-percentages, only for the troper in question to put them back without properly expanding the context.
Also, a "Beware the Nice Ones" shoehorn that doesn't explain why audiences are supposed to be wary of a "nice" character (In episode 5, Dawn confronts Ros and Amni for getting Inka into serious trouble after finding out Inka is wrongly accused of shoplifting. — How is that an explanation of why we're supposed to "beware" of her?)
Help?
Edited by RobertTYL
Main.Temporarily Exaggerated Trait
The last part I'm thinking should be removed as YMMV on a non-YMMV trope. Any objections? And on the tropic is there any circumstances audience reaction are allowed under non-YMMV?