• 4 Aug 17th, 2017 at 3:03PM
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    A user added pictures to the body of several of the Rwby pages (funny, heartwarming, nightmare fuel, awesome) and reverted them on one page when another user deleted them, they've left a note saying to leave the pictures alone until it's resolved on the discussion page, but they haven't started a conversation on any of them and hasn't joined a discussion I was having with the user that deleted the pictures to argue for including them on the page. Is there a procedure for dealing with the issue since deleting them will probably result in an edit war? Reply
  • 1 Jul 18th, 2017 at 9:09PM
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    bobg added an example of Critical Research Failure to YMMV.Death Battle, despite there being a comment saying not to add specific examples of it. They brought up a legitimate reason for their edit, but they did break a rule posted on the page, so I don't know if I should delete it or not. Reply

      Sent helper message, will revert.
  • 1 Jun 27th, 2017 at 12:12PM
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    I'm trying to include some YMMV tropes that are being discussed by a journalist/pundit in his web series. Some of them, like Waggle, are technically YMMV tropes. Should I leave them on the main page, or move them to the YMMV page, if they are not listing examples of the tropes themselves but points at which the creator discusses them? If I should leave them where they are, is there a specific tag, like In-Universe, I should use to disable the YMMV prompt? Reply

      When a meta-work, like a review or journalistic article, uses a YMMV trope with respect to a work that it is critiquing, then it counts as an In-Universe use of the trope and can go on the main article. This works much the same way as if a work of fiction uses the trope with respect to a Show Within a Show.

      The examples become objective because they aren't the audience's opinion about the work, but rather the work's expression of an opinion about some other work. This is also why fanfic can use shipping tropes objectively.

      That said, we should be cautious when writing articles about journalism, since that's crossing the line to troping RL topics and/or people. For example, what a news anchor or talk show host says about a current event or person isn't tropeworthy, since they're not adopting a fictitious persona or talking about fictitious people. ROCEJ applies here very strongly.

  • 3 Jun 23rd, 2017 at 5:05AM
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    Shortly after a controversial moment at the last AGDQ, I added this example of Overused Running Gag to Awesome Games Done Quick:

    • Overused Running Gag: One of the couch commentators during AGDQ 2017's Super Metroid race called out the people doing the Waluigi "Waaahhh!" and told them they weren't funny after they'd been doing so multiple times over the run.

    Troper uknownada removed it with the following reason: "Did the dick who told them that write that entry? He did a lot more than say they 'weren't being funny'."

    Despite the fact he did say more than just that (that the people who were doing it were cancer and should jump in front of a moving car), I believe the example still holds since the joke was becoming overused. Would it be better to re-add the example or just leave it alone and avoid a potential edit war? Reply

      I would, but you should just wait for the mods to apprehend unknownada. They really didn't need to go that far.

      It's an objective example if the commentators specifically call it out. Suspended that user.

      I think leaving out the cancer and car parts was fine. The entire quote doesn't need to be in the example to show the trope, and that's awful language.
  • 1 Jun 20th, 2017 at 12:12PM
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    Okay, so I'm a complete noob who just made an account and I wanted to create pages for Aphmau's three Machinima (did I spell that right?) Series, Minecraft Diaries, Mystreet, and Dreams of Estorra but I have no idea what I'm doing and accidentally created 3 red links, can someone just make the pages for me. Reply
  • 1 Jun 12th, 2017 at 12:12PM
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    Okay, so apparently there was once a group of tropes that did badly because people were listing non-tropes under them and it got so badly written that people named an Administrivia page "Everything's Worse with Snowclones" as a hypocritical joke. Where did this trope originate? And how come some tropes (Everything's Better with Penguins for example) still have this format? Reply

      The idea of a "snowclone" is not new, and we've had spates of it on this site going back for yonks. A catchy, memetic trope name, just like a catchy, memetic thread title on the forums, will spawn imitators. The problem is that many of those imitators (speaking about the wiki side, of course) were made just to play off the title without any meaningful distinction as a trope.

      Tropes falling into the snowclone pattern were run through Trope Repair Shop for cleanup and/or removal. In some cases, it was determined that they were meaningful and being used correctly, and so they were retained. To see whether Everything's Better with Penguins got that treatment, do a forum search for it.
  • 5 Jun 7th, 2017 at 1:01PM
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    I was checking the list of namespaces, and found "Corpse" has 39 pages, each being a chapter of a piece of fiction hosted on the wiki. Is that allowed? (Courtesy link: JustForFun.Exquisite Corpse) Reply

      I'm pretty sure fictions hosted on the wiki aren't kosher. I remember a few having been cut a few months ago...

      Yeah, I'd toss that. Give the people contributing to it the opportunity to move it offsite.

      Should I just cutlist them now, or do I need to do something more to warn people first about it?

      PM the peoples involved, give them a few days to move it, cut with prejudice.

      If I remember previous discussions correctly, part of the issue with hosting actual stories here involves the license something something.

      Alright; PMed the tropers involved. I'll cutlist the pages on Monday, so they'll have the weekend to move it if they want to.
  • 2 Jun 6th, 2017 at 9:09PM
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    Is there a way to do that? I failed to see the option...... Reply

      If you want to see changes to YMMV pages in general, you can change the page-type in the address like so

      It works for most page types except for new pages unfortunately
  • 16 Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:10AM
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    I noticed that Phantom Strider had a red link. Why was it cut? I'm not intending to bring it back, just curious. Reply

      Looks like it never existed. If it had been cut, there would be a cut reason.

      It's editable, so you can make a page for it if you want.

      Thanks! I'm gonna make a page for it, but I'm still pretty new to editing. It may need some love.

      The edit page button just sends me to the Trope Launcher page. What could I do to fix that?

      You need to put it in the proper namespace. That red link in your OP is in Main, which is for tropes only. You probably want WebOriginal.Phantom Strider.

      Actually, you'll have to use WebVideo.Phantom Strider, since we don't use the Web Original namespace any longer.

      To create the page, you'll need a basic description and at least three tropes, and you'll need to find an index to list it in. See How to Create a Works Page for details.

      Edit: Looks like the page was cut before after all. But it was only because it had no tropes. As long as you find at least three, you're good.

      Thanks!

      Page is up and has three tropes attached. I also put the Needs Wiki Magic Love thing on it too. Thanks again for the help!

      Trope Finder can help with further tropes. :)

      Question: do we trope Top 10 lists?

      Because that's what that channel does, so other than the guy's reactions to some stuff (and him being a real person, not a persona from what I can tell) there's no original content.

      Fairly sure we don't, since that's a list of works, and those works should have tropes on their pages, or Creators' pages if the work pages don't exist.

      As long as it's troping the show itself and not the works being reviewed, it could probably be done, even if the only original content is stuff like jokes or visuals. I haven't watched the show myself, but it may be similar to other shows where people don't put on a persona like review shows, reaction video shows, let's plays or podcasts.

      The main issue is that it might be really difficult to find actual tropes to use, which is a problem another troper had when they wanted to make a page for Whatculture not too long ago.

      Indeed, unless the Youtuber in question produces original creative content, there's nothing worth troping.

      ^^ That's the problem, though, Tep 10 lists rarely produce anything original. As the WebVideo.Phantom Strider is now, aside from wrong alphabetization which I'm going to correct, and Example Indentation issues which I've already corrected, three of the four listed tropes are about the guy hosting and thus about a real person (can't see any kind of persona after skimming some videos). It's also not indexed.

      Since OP was interested in the page's existence, I'm going to call them here via PM and see if they're willing to find enough tropes that are neither about the channel's non-original content nor the host himself, otherwise there's only one valid trope to the page.

      I think writing about a real persona is fine as long as it's focused on what they do or say on the show and not on private or personal stuff. That Adorkable entry shouldn't be there, for example.

      I asked the same thing about troping people on game shows, talk shows and reality competitions (like American Idol or MasterChef) before, and the answer I got was that what's presented on screen counts as In-Universe for the purposes of the website.

      Real-life persona or not, I think the main thing to look at is whether the content is creative or just like a Buzzfeed list. I haven't watched the videos myself, but there's nothing original there like you say, then it probably shouldn't have a page.

      The on-screen persona of the creator in question needs to clearly be a part of the presentation of their work. Distinguishing what is the real person from what is the act that they put forward can be especially difficult for RL works like game shows, documentaries, vlogs, and the like. When in doubt, defer to the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment and don't list it.

      Adorkable is a perennial problem child in this regard since, when applied to real people, it generally means, "Someone finds them endearing," which is pure dross and adds nothing of value to the wiki.
  • 4 Jun 4th, 2017 at 7:07PM
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    Lastest Reply: 4th Jun, 2017 08:58:08 PM
    What does this means? Reply

      It means you can upvote topics to indicate interest. It's mainly used for bug and wishlist items to gauge how many tropers would like to see them fixed/implemented, respectively.

      Also, your question is written grammatically thus: "What does this mean?" Please don't try to edit the wiki if you're going to write like that.

      Can it be used to "bump" an interesting question that were fallen behind?

      No, to bump a topic, you have to reply to it.

      Ok, thanks
  • 5 May 21st, 2017 at 2:02PM
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    So I noticed that WatchMojo had its own dethroning moment page, so I decided to create a work page for it. I don't have any examples yet. Since this is the first works page I made, I might need some feedback on this. Some examples I am thinking of adding would be: Now the problem is, that I am not sure if these border around Zero Context Examples. Reply

      Well, on Zero-Context Example, it lists "The entirety of [Episode]" as an example of a ZCE, and that's basically what those entries in OP are.


      The trope has to be present in the work itself. Tropes can't be listed just because it discusses several instances in other media.

      It's like posting The Abridged Series on the work page of what said Abridged Series is abridging instead of the Abridged Series' work page, or posting MST on a page about the work that's being riffed and not the work page for the riffing itself.

      Those examples are definitely ZCEs. They don't say anything about how the tropes are being used.

      I also think you should read the rules for creating a work page. You need at least 3 tropes before a page is launched. Maybe add something about the reviewing style, humor, format, etc.

      I suggest cutting both the page and its Dethroning Moments subpage. The article itself is completely useless and we don't allow trope subpages for nonexistent work articles.

      The YMMV page i added may need to be cut as well, i will take a look at the rules for creating a work page.
  • 1 May 20th, 2017 at 8:08PM
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    Lastest Reply: 20th May, 2017 09:13:32 PM
    Warriors Official Forum seems to be mostly troping real-life people (namely, members of the forum). I'm not sure if there's anything salvageable here. Reply
  • 9 May 17th, 2017 at 7:07PM
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    Lastest Reply: 18th May, 2017 11:59:48 AM
    Was there discussion anywhere (the pages' discussion pages are blank) about changing the entire pages for history of japan and history of the entire world, i guess to be in all lowercase letters, or was that a unilateral move on The Whistle Tropes's part? Reply

      Oh, I see the post-duplication bug is still here...

      Oh, I see the post-duplication bug is still here...

      pictures for sad children is the same way, though significantly older.

      Oh, god, don't do that. It's so ugly. If someone wants to make a Self Demonstrating version of the pages, that's... well, dumb, but it's up to them. But the main ones need to be in standard style.

      I've unlocked this, because I strenuously disagree with Fighteer. If the official title of the work uses non-standard capitalization, that's what the page should use. It may be ugly, but it's the actual name of the work, the same way we use end punctuation (Theatre/HelloDolly makes Hello, Dolly!) or non-standard notation (Theatre/TitleOfShow makes [title of show].)

      The question here is, is it official that the titles are in all small letters?

      Madrugada, I think you misunderstand the issue. The problem is not that the page titles are all lowercase, it's that every single capital letter on the page has been turned into lower case.

      The title should stay lowercase, and all of the capital letters on the page should be put back on. That's my two cents.

      Agree that the title should use the official spelling/capitalization, etc., and that the text of the article should not.

      However, I've seen a lot of people blindly follow a stylized version of the name from a poster or cover without checking to see if that's how the name is stylized in general. The most common case is when the poster has the name in all-caps. That doesn't (necessarily) mean the official name is all-caps. The Avengers is The Avengers not THE ⒶVENGERS, no matter what the poster might suggest. :)

      No, I did not understand that the whole page was changed to that. In that case, I agree with Fighteer — those go in the Self-demonstrating namespace, only, if they go anywhere.
  • 9 May 17th, 2017 at 7:07PM
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    Was there discussion anywhere (the pages' discussion pages are blank) about changing the entire pages for history of japan and history of the entire world, i guess to be in all lowercase letters, or was that a unilateral move on The Whistle Tropes's part? Reply

      Oh, I see the post-duplication bug is still here...

      Oh, I see the post-duplication bug is still here...

      pictures for sad children is the same way, though significantly older.

      Oh, god, don't do that. It's so ugly. If someone wants to make a Self Demonstrating version of the pages, that's... well, dumb, but it's up to them. But the main ones need to be in standard style.

      I've unlocked this, because I strenuously disagree with Fighteer. If the official title of the work uses non-standard capitalization, that's what the page should use. It may be ugly, but it's the actual name of the work, the same way we use end punctuation (Theatre/HelloDolly makes Hello, Dolly!) or non-standard notation (Theatre/TitleOfShow makes [title of show].)

      The question here is, is it official that the titles are in all small letters?

      Madrugada, I think you misunderstand the issue. The problem is not that the page titles are all lowercase, it's that every single capital letter on the page has been turned into lower case.

      The title should stay lowercase, and all of the capital letters on the page should be put back on. That's my two cents.

      Agree that the title should use the official spelling/capitalization, etc., and that the text of the article should not.

      However, I've seen a lot of people blindly follow a stylized version of the name from a poster or cover without checking to see if that's how the name is stylized in general. The most common case is when the poster has the name in all-caps. That doesn't (necessarily) mean the official name is all-caps. The Avengers is The Avengers not THE ⒶVENGERS, no matter what the poster might suggest. :)

      No, I did not understand that the whole page was changed to that. In that case, I agree with Fighteer — those go in the Self-demonstrating namespace, only, if they go anywhere.
  • 0 May 16th, 2017 at 10:10AM
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    When browsing the pages for WebAnimation.Dick Figures , in the namespace selector there is a button called "[[Trivia". I'm assuming this was someones misguided attempt at creating a Media Wiki style page, and the page seems to be deleted (and I can't find it in the Cut List, so it seems to be deleted for a while now). Despite that fact, the button still is there. I know for a fact that this is not the only case in which this has happened (I think it happened to some other pages as well, but this one I just stumbled across). Reply
  • 1 May 10th, 2017 at 10:10AM
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    Lastest Reply: 11th May, 2017 06:59:43 AM
    Is it okay to recreate the PhantomStrider page if we can put in the tropes he falls under, like Land Down Under, Nice Guy, Caustic Critic, Think of the Children! (in regards to Where the Dead Go to Die), Spell My Name with an "S" (inverted), Dude, Not Funny! (where he thought that cutting joke on Brians A Bad Father was the worst joke ever told), etc? Reply

      A Re you troping the person, the persona, or works?

      The first is a hard and fast don't do that.

      The second is permitted within Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement.

      The third only applies if the works don't have their own pages.

      And if it was cut for massive drama, flame wars, havoc, etc, it's not getting recreated.
  • 4 Apr 29th, 2017 at 4:04PM
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    Lastest Reply: 29th Apr, 2017 07:03:26 PM
    Digimon World: Infamy needs serious help. its trope listings are mostly {{in brackets}} and whoever's adding new ones keeps double-spacing and not using CamelCase. i tried to fix it alone but there's too many.

    Also it kinda feels like they're going for every trope in alphabetical order so A-D have more entries than E-Z combined. Reply

      Sent them a PM.

      Did a little work on it myself, mostly the CamelCase in the D's.

      I've meant to help fix this page, as I have it on my watchlist, but I haven't gotten the opportunity.

      I would agree with the assessment that they're trying to fix in every trope onto the page. And a LOT of them are ZC Es or just them trying to force the trope onto the page.

      It looks like they are making an effort to repair the formatting issues. Please comment out ZCEs and remove forced tropes with edit reasons.
  • 10 Apr 26th, 2017 at 5:05AM
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    How do I know that this source is a reliable? For my project, I need sources that can be proven to be credited and not just someone typing on their own blog. Is there anything I can tell my teacher about how this is a reliable source? Reply

      Um, it's moderated and used as a reputable reference for specialist media subjects (possibly because it's the only one that exists with such a focus...). It's up to your teacher, it's not like this wiki is more reliable than The Other Wiki, it just focusses on one area in greater detail. There are some experts that contribute, not that you could really prove it, and credit goes to the wiki not the editor.

      Sorry, but as this is a publicly-editable wiki, I do not believe it qualifies as a reliable, credited source as far as academics are concerned. I do not know of any teacher who would accept TvTropes as a source.

      It's not a reliable source for facts, no, because baseically anybody can write anything and it may be a while because anyone picks up any inaccuracy and corrects it. I suppose it can be used as a source for opinions and things like jargon.

      Unless the project is specifically about internet media, I wouldn't use it as a source. This site is more entertainment than academics, and will probably not be seen as being much better than a blog.

      Indeed, TV Tropes is not a reliable source. It does contain errors and no formal editorial mechanism.

      If you're trying to look for sources on philosophical subjects, you're better off using the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy than any of our pages on such subjects. If you're looking for information on writing, you could probably use some of our pages as springboards via the keywords in the articles.

      TV Tropes is not a primary or secondary source; it's a tertiary source. Per standard rules for research, tertiary sources are not acceptable as citations. However, you may certainly use TV Tropes as a springboard for research into the trope content of media.

      In terms of "credited" sources, that is really kind of a meaningless distinction here — if someone says that there's an example of Soft Glass in Terminator 2: Judgment Day, you can watch the original film and see for yourself. The source is the work that the article is written about. As to the "source" for tropes, that's again not a meaningful statement. We are not making a claim of authority as to the nature and existence of tropes, cliches, memes, etc.; we are merely seeking to distinguish them and document their use.

      Hmm...I'm in the same situation (in a way; it's essentially a "pet project" of mine).

      A sort of Ciffs Notes I can use (perhaps with mod approval, and excuse the image, it will be like trying to attract someone to a church, say, yet without the "baggage" (the human, well, bullshit that led to the Crusades, The Fundamentalist at its most "Atheist", and so on).

      Essentially, I'm asking to try, in my own way (PM is essential here), direct as many people here to discover the site without the...prejudice the sort of wounded gazelle ;-) who was ousted "with prejudice" following, say, The Google Incident, to be perfectly blunt. The sort of person who screams "Death to Fascist Eddie!", in a nutshell.

      Thoughts?


      ^Your last paragraph is very confusing. Why do you think that directing people to our site would be negative?

      The only case I can think of is if you were telling people "Go vandalize Tvtropes!" And I assume you wouldn't be posting here if that was the intent.

      ATT is probably not the correct venue, if any, to ask that. The original question's been answered. Requesting a lock.
  • 1 Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:01AM
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    • Update*

    I'm currently working on the Beer and Board Games page. Anyone that has any knowledge of the show is welcome to help out.

    • End Update*

    Ignore the text below.

    I'm interested in starting a page for the Web series "Beer and Board Games", but I don't know how to create pages on this website. Anyone wanna help me out? Reply
  • 5 Apr 9th, 2017 at 5:05PM
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    I recently added an edit towards Popularity Power in regards to Death Battle and some things I've been hearing about it on the net. Almost immidately after I added it, someone deleted the entire thing under the justification of it being natter. I'm not claiming anything but I believe Natter basically means treating the tropes like a Forum, which I don't believe I did. I gave clear, concise examples on the subject. I don't want to get into an Edit War if it's just someone who disagrees with what I added, so can anyone give me an opinion on this? Reply

      The example above the example that you put explicitly says that the series is a explicit aversion- and you put zigzagged trope in the example.

      Given it was a second-level bullet point starting with "however", that's typically a dead ringer for natter. Looking at the removed entry, it is most definitely also a Wall of Text, so that's another reason it could've been removed.

      That page is a mass of Natter and really needs a good scrubbing.


      Okay. I wasn't sure. Would edit the example itself on how there are some arguments about how it can lean into this trope sometimes be preferred? Again, I'd rather not be shot for being the messenger here. I'm neutral on the series but I've seen several arguments being made on this, so I felt like it saying it was a complete aversion of this trope wasn't entirely true.

      Arguments outside what the creators have confirmed counts as speculation on a meta level. We don't really want speculation of that type on the wiki
  • 4 Apr 3rd, 2017 at 11:11AM
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    Or something else entirely? It's with Kristen Stewart sponsoring Chanel. Reply
  • 4 Mar 27th, 2017 at 11:11AM
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    The BBC and a few other organs have carried this story recently, about large scale production of youtube videos which emulate "Peppa Pig" and other children's cartoons but which are fake and, for whatever reason, riddled with terrifying imagery - a knock-off Peppa Pig episode involving an unpleasant and graphic dental operation for instance. Does anyone know why this has been created, whether it is described here, Know Your Meme, or anywhere else? https://theoutline.com/post/1239/youtube-has-a-fake-peppa-pig-problem Reply

      Are you suggesting this is a trope? I'd like to hope not, and we would not want articles for that kind of shock content anyway. We expressly do not want "hot off the press" memes documented here. It's not our purpose.

      It doesn't really qualify as a trope, it's just an extremely bizarre news article that tropers might be able to share insight on. I can't comprehend the motivation behind spending time devising this sort of thing with the apparent purpose of traumatizing children; however, it is interesting as well as horrific, and if there is a historical precedent for this, then tropers are the people to know.

      That sounds like something for the forums. Ask The Tropers is more for questions about the wiki.

      Yeah, it's a forum topic. Ask The Tropers is for questions about the wiki.
  • 0 Mar 27th, 2017 at 11:11AM
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    The BBC and a few other organs have carried this story recently, about large scale production of youtube videos which emulate "Peppa Pig" and other children's cartoons but which are fake and, for whatever reason, riddled with terrifying imagery - a knock-off Peppa Pig episode involving an unpleasant and graphic dental operation for instance. Does anyone know why this has been created, whether it is described here, Know Your Meme, or anywhere else? https://theoutline.com/post/1239/youtube-has-a-fake-peppa-pig-problem Reply
  • 1 Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:09PM
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    It's too ridiculously long. I'd like to shorten & reorganize it myself, but I've never had to do something like this before. I don't know where to start. Can someone help? Reply

      (Courtesy link)

      You might only need one or two of these threads, but I figure it'd be helpful to know of them anyway.

      There is a discussion thread for pages that get that length warning. You can find it as the too-long page repair thread. I think they generally split pages, but if the page can be shortened anyway, I think that thread would be the place to start.

      Also, you can talk with the people over on Natter Alert for the effort on cutting down natter (which is probably inflating that particular page). Note that natter is okay on WMG pages, but it may be something inflating the page anyway. I would start with the too-long page repair thread.

      A third place you could go, especially if there is a bunch of useless complaining on the page, would be the removing complaining and bashing thread.
  • 9 Mar 20th, 2017 at 8:08PM
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    Lastest Reply: 24th Mar, 2017 05:26:20 AM
    Cutiesofly replaced a bunch of legitimate tropes with tropes that don't even exist on Characters.Vinesauce, under the pretense that they were "In accurate information." Reply

      Well, that could be considered vandalism, but I don't know.

      None of the tropes ring a bell to me.

      Someone should talk to Cutiesofly.

      Looks like flamemario12 reverted the damage. And yeah, none of those were tropes.

      Cutie is either a troll or doesn't understand how these things work on this site. Needs a PM, might need a shoulder tap.

      Tapped

      Someone will have to still restore the content that was replaced. I know absolutely nothing about Vinesauce, so I can't say if those examples were justifiably removed or not.

      I think cutiesofly might be a sockpuppet of cyrule, who has a similar problem with false tropes and similar editing grounds.

      Cyrule also edited on the Vinesauce characters page, but that was months ago

      He did edit the Games Repainted page a few weeks back.

      Was Cyrule suspended?

      Possibly. Though they should have given that they made the same mistake twice.

      Cyrule was not suspended, and there's no IP overlap with Cutiesofly

      Ok then. Thanks for telling me!
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