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Madrugada MOD Since: Jan, 2001
19th Jun, 2017 06:39:41 AM

That's what it sounds like to me. Besides, DIAA is about hating the work because it's so dark or hopeless of a setting/story, not hating a specific character within an-otherwise engaging work.

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tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
19th Jun, 2017 07:05:50 AM

So should the example be cut then?

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
19th Jun, 2017 08:07:40 AM

I would. It doesn't establish any of the particulars of the trope. Now, maybe if this character is the protagonist, then DIAA might apply by virtue of the story being so dark that the audience can't find any characters to sympathize with, but at no point is this stated.

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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
19th Jun, 2017 08:12:56 AM

It's not an example of DIAA as it's written, so unless you can change it into one, it should be cut.

dragonfire5000 Since: Jan, 2001
19th Jun, 2017 09:58:31 AM

Fighteer, as someone who has read the work, I can say that the character being talked about is the protagonist. However, I still think the example is badly written in that it ultimately only serves as a rant about why the poster thinks the protagonist is repugnant, and not how the setting is so dark and bleak that no one cares about what happens in the story.

Madrugada MOD Since: Jan, 2001
19th Jun, 2017 10:32:54 AM

I'd say that referring to the "loads of Fanservice and cool action moves" inthe very first sentence implies that there is something for the audience to like, appreciate, or be engaged with in the work. That disqualifies it from DIAA.

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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
19th Jun, 2017 10:33:49 AM

Without having read the work, I agree with your assessment of the example. To be an example of DIAA, it shouldn't just describe how dark the work is, or how utterly repugnant the protagonist is, it should focus on how this fact makes the audience stop caring (they don't have to hate the work or the protagonist, as Madrugada implied above, but they should have stopped caring). So I'd say rewrite or cut.

Edited by GnomeTitan
tryrar Since: Sep, 2010
19th Jun, 2017 02:07:09 PM

Different issue: there are only three tropes on the YMMV page, and this is one of them. Cutting the DIAA example will leave it as a stub by our definitions. What do?

GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
19th Jun, 2017 02:11:46 PM

I don't think the "at least three examples required" rule applies to YMMV or Trivia pages.

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
20th Jun, 2017 02:35:43 AM

Should we talk to the troper who put that so that they know its not kosher?

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Candi Since: Aug, 2012
20th Jun, 2017 12:05:09 PM

A PM is a good idea (and how they respond will say a lot).

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