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burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#6851: Jul 27th 2016 at 11:33:05 AM

In the end, she was easily my strongest character, aptitude be damned, and I really got nerfed when I hit 1's final boss and had to fight without her. So I dunno.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6852: Jul 27th 2016 at 1:26:49 PM

But that's not her own usefulness. You might as well give Laharl a staff in that case and he'll end up just as strong.

Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
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#6853: Jul 27th 2016 at 1:30:49 PM

I ended teaching Flonne offensive spells.

She was more useful after that.

Never bothered with the whole bow thing.

In other news, Ruler's Wound (D4 10-3) took me way too long to clear because I'm averse to grinding.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#6854: Jul 27th 2016 at 6:49:40 PM

[up][up]"But that's not her own usefulness. You might as well give Laharl a staff in that case and he'll end up just as strong."

Except that Flonne has better INT (13 vs. 9) and Staff mastery (S vs. B). A Mage with 100% DEF aptitude is pretty good in Disgaea 1.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#6855: Aug 15th 2016 at 3:00:55 PM

I finally finished Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories. Took me long enough... I got caught up in grinding my characters and neglected the main quest line. Weakest member of the party struck Fake Xenon and he went down in one hit. Oops.

Trying to decide whether the postgame is worth going after. Right now, I have one save file with the other two marked as Data Corrupted (possibly due to the SoulCalibur 3 save on the same card). Recently picked up a copy of Makai Kingdom. I'm around 2-2 and figuring out how to deal with opponents who can no-sell 90% of the attacks.

edited 15th Aug '16 3:02:27 PM by FuzzyBoots

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#6856: Aug 17th 2016 at 3:28:43 AM

So I couldn't find English lyrics for Disgaea 5's OP, Kill Real, so I translated them myself with the help of a friend. The German part is at the beginning and is done with Google Translate since I don't know German nor do I know anyone who does. Do note that this is a very literal translation.

My grief and my hatred.
I stoke Hell.

Annihilating ghosts of a past the refuses to disappear.
A corpse that gets stuck in your throat.
The caress of the oozing darkness causes you to tremble for a instant.
Fall down and escape to oblivion.

You beg for love with your tongue and yet, on this moonlit night,
You illuminate the hurt feelings with the light of passion.
Become aware of the grief in silence.

kill real

The mad hyenas split the pulse of memory.
Love and blood refrain in dissonance.
The crimson pierces the blazing reality.

The distant sky takes your breath away. The butterfly won't return.
Where are the wings at now?
A voiceless scream in a sea of burning thorns.
Cut through the spine of the distorted wave.

You trace a fragment of the Moon, following along with your finger.
I softly kiss your red tears.
My darling is irresistible...

kill real

The heroine of tragedy embraced the torn butterfly.
The instinctual drive of Shangri-La brings an end to reasoning.
I'll use my fist to add the final period to this unreal drama.
Running up the bridge of despair rises underneath the shaking moon.

kill real kill real

The mad hyenas split the pulse of memory.
Love and blood refrain in dissonance.
My stolen love, you who I won't meet again, my tears, pain, everything
Leads me through this crazy, pained scenario of fate.

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6858: Sep 4th 2016 at 11:27:19 PM

Does anyone know if there's a way to affect which secret room you get in the chara world of D4 Vita or at least the odds of each particular room? I've been running it over and over trying to get evil symbol expansions but I keep getting nothing but the prinny instructor. Usually the one for the weaker skills at that. Out of about twenty runs I think I've only gotten the room expansion once and that was early on.

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6859: Sep 7th 2016 at 2:36:30 AM

[up][up]Good, yes! Now let's ride this all the way to 5!

FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#6860: Sep 7th 2016 at 5:30:14 AM

Did they ever fix the bugs in the first one?

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6861: Sep 7th 2016 at 11:58:28 AM

It runs pretty well for me. Haven't hit any bugs yet.

Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#6862: Sep 12th 2016 at 6:08:33 PM

High quality rip inbound!

Ekimmak Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#6863: Sep 12th 2016 at 6:39:31 PM

How's that related to Nippon Ichi?

[down]Not really.

edited 12th Sep '16 7:58:35 PM by Ekimmak

If everyone were normal, the world would be a dull place. Like reality television.
Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#6865: Sep 19th 2016 at 5:34:26 PM

The way I see it, Flonne's role kept changing from game to game.

1. Definete case of Magikarp Power in terms of being a caster.

2. Magikarp Power again but role is more defined.

3. She's an archer this time. Bows were respectable in this game.

4. Fallen form is a solid archer. Archangel form is probably her worst incarnation due to being a cleric in a game where defense was super useless.

D2. Respectable mage. Pure Pink is pretty nasty and was the reason weights were taken away.

5. Due to welcome changes to rewards for leveling up techniques and armor mastery, defense is quite viable. This makes her a top notch cleric due to Have You Loved. Love Field is a good late game evility due to its global effect and larger army sizes. Comboes nicely with Zetta's Overload skill.

Speaking of 5, I think I managed to break the game. I'm reaching level 9999 in two fights now.

Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
#6867: Oct 14th 2016 at 11:42:19 AM

Started the series with 5. Went back to play 1 on the DS.

5 spoiled me with its easy grinding and the Exp Squad. I've only made it to chapter 11 because Laharl is so damn strong.

Equipment is a crapshoot. Getting the Dark Assembly to agree to anything, least of all better shop inventory is an exercise in futility.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6868: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:06:00 PM

Then why don't you just persuade by force?

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#6869: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:28:35 PM

Because the senators are upwards of level 200 and Larharl is only closing in on 90.

edited 14th Oct '16 12:29:12 PM by Eagal

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6870: Oct 14th 2016 at 12:52:41 PM

Hmm, if you have Cave of Ordeals unlocked you could grind in Ordeal 3 so that you can level Laharl up to a point where the senators are a complete joke. If not, try fusing enemies together on previous maps and beat the higher-level enemies that come out as a result of fusion.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#6871: Oct 14th 2016 at 1:48:58 PM

[up]Doesn't he need New Game Plus for that (or was it a MUCH higher level than he has? Either way...)? He's past the early point where he could have purposely died to unlock early NG+.

In any event... yeah. Aside from Laharl, the only really useful character for me in Disgaea 1 was Flonne, and that was after a lot of work getting magic onto her from the elemental mages. As for the Assembly, I save scum and bribe like mad. If you're having trouble with equipment, MAKE SURE you don't miss the requirements to get the Testament so you can at least have one good piece of equipment. And if you're going for Etna Mode, make sure Laharl isn't wearing it during the final boss fight in your current run.

edited 14th Oct '16 2:03:54 PM by burnpsy

FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#6872: Oct 14th 2016 at 2:02:06 PM

It's a catch-22 in that it's a proposal in the Senate which means if you don't have a high enough level and/or enough influence... there's some advice here to make it easier.

Level 5-3 is the place people are generally told to start leveling. It's possible to do triple XP, pile all of the enemies into the one vulnerable space, and then do team-attacks to level up up to 4 people at a time.

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6873: Oct 14th 2016 at 2:29:26 PM

[up][up]I forget which Dark Assembly rank is needed, but New Game + is not required to unlock Cave of Ordeals in Disgaea 1.

edited 14th Oct '16 2:29:42 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
#6874: Oct 14th 2016 at 9:50:08 PM

I want to quit playing Disgaea 1 and move on to #2!!!!!

But that would require admitting defeat. That's just what the game wants me to do. I can't let it win!

I've managed to get to chapter 14. Easy exp for Laharl and making slow progress with some other characters.

Question. Is there any point in holding out for Tier 5 Fire/Ice/Wind spells outside of preference or are the Star spells just better all around.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#6875: Oct 15th 2016 at 2:43:06 AM

[up]In Disgaea 1 there are no evilities whatsoever aside from the Magic Knights being able to cast a random elemental spell after attacking normally, so Star Magic is generally better.


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