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If you wish to go into the Arctic you should buy a Short-Magazine-Lee-Enfield. That's the bolt action rifle that Canadians have used for over a century. It's also the rifle that, in well trained British hands, completely scared the German Army during WWI.

Tom: Quite simply you have to try harder to be more wrong then you just were.

First lets get this straight. It has nothing at all to do with your completely fictional notion about superiority or imaginary pissing contest. It has everything to do with how the projectile is propelled. You see the RPG-7's projectiles with the exception of the OG-7V round all have a rocket motor in them. By the very definition of a rocket those projectiles are rockets as in propelled by a rocket motor. Funny the definition of a rocket launcher is any weapon the fires a rocket propelled projectile. Well holy shit. That would make the RPG-7 a rocket launcher. Imagine that.

Now as for the rest of your grossly inaccurate assessment. The RPG-7 even by "Russian Doctorine" is not used like a grenade launcher at all. It is in fact used like other weapons nominally called rocket launchers carried by troops. Amazing I know. Such a concept a weapon that has a near identical method of propulsion and design principal would be used in the same general fashion as other examples. Even more amusing Tom is the Russians have both stand alone and UBGL weapons and amazingly they use them in a different fashion to the RPG-7 in pretty much every way. I mean it could be because they are completely different weapons platforms and thus must be used in fashion differently then the RPG-7. Amazing isn't it.

To make matters even more amusing Tom you seem to have grossly misinterpreted the term grenade. Which by the way is both generic and specific. Grenade refers to very wide range of projectiles be they launched, thrown, or otherwise propelled. The generic term grenade is any small missile that contains an explosive or a chemical agent. In very specific terms it refers to hand thrown variety and is derived from a word the French used to refer to a small variety of artillery shell. I

Which means Tom you could even call explosive bullets grenades if you really wanted it and you would be technically and very pedantically correct. However in the English language we have this amusing ability to give objects multiple names and definitions and still be correct. Such as calling the RPG-7 a variety of rocket launcher. f you ever bothered to do any actual research and reading of actual technical documents you would have long ago found out that the warhead component of western rocket launchers is frequently called a grenade in the broad sense.

edited 12th Jan '17 11:21:33 PM by TuefelHundenIV

I've lead a bayonet charge. The casualties were close to 100 percent. I'm not doing that again unless we're out of amunition and retreating.

Honestly, Grenade Launchers are probably the coolest of the Cool Guns for me, due to all the interesting non-conventional rounds they can fire, not to mention they tend to be fun as hell to use in video games (And video games tend to have some fun with them too, introducing fictional but incredibly cool rounds like Acid, Ice, Electric, Plasma, EMP and Sticky rounds).

edited 16th Jan '17 5:47:37 PM by Bat178

That's why the old M79 is still in (limited) service: because most repeaters and underbarrel types can't accept some of the longer specialty rounds. It's also simpler to operate, extremely rugged and reliable, and has a greater effective range (400 yards, versus 200 for an M203.)

edited 16th Jan '17 7:02:15 PM by pwiegle

pwiegle: Actually that isn't true. The M-203 could already accept both the white star parachute round, cluster star type rounds, smoke markers, HE, HEDP, and quite a few other specialty rounds. Same for the MGL and the M-320. The only one that has any limitations is the M-203 because it can't fit to fire the new medium velocity grenades but the M-320 and the Milkor can.

edited 16th Jan '17 7:07:44 PM by TuefelHundenIV

I always heard the remaining M79's were only in the hands of special forces and had massively cut down barrels with the stocks removed. Called "Pirate Guns"

edited 16th Jan '17 7:35:53 PM by LeGarcon

Several foreign militaries still also use the M79, particularly Asian ones.

@Tuefel: the current-issue rounds have been re-designed to be shorter, and thus fit into the action of the M203 et. al. But I've seen Vietnam-era photos of an M79 gunner loading his blooper with a parachute flare, and the thing stuck so far out from the shell base that it took up most of the fourteen-inch length of the bore.

pwiegle: That is popular myth. The fact is the parachute flare and cluster flare grenades remained relatively unchanged outside of improvements to contents and components but otherwise retained their original dimensions. Beyond that those grenades dimensions remained unchanged. The parachute flares used in Vietnam are the same length as they are now that is 5.2" long and those are the longest 40x46mm Grenades. The 203 can fire the 5" grenades from Vietnam and the same ones from now. The only grenade variety to undergo a lot of changes were the HE grenades. Those mostly underwent those changes to address a host of problems with the fuses, fragmentation, casing, propellant, and IIRC the HE filler.

At the same time the M 79 entered Service the US designed the first automatic grenade launcher to fire 40x53mm grenades. Which are similar in general dimensions for the complete round but pack a more powerful propellant charge. You could technically fit them into the 203 and the 79 but the net result was not pretty and typically resulted in the grenade launcher being badly damaged or destroyed. That is the only grenade in use in the same era that the 203 and 79 entered service, that had different enough dimensions you could not really use it in those launchers. Some of the old Vietnam grenades just simply stopped being used in general like the US bounding air bursting grenades.

It is only the newer medium velocity grenades that the M 203 can't fit, it can fire the full range of older 40x46mm grenades.

edited 16th Jan '17 11:22:27 PM by TuefelHundenIV

BREAKING NEWS: The Army Has A New Pistol!

The M17 Modular Handgun System, better known as the Sig Sauer P320 Compact!

So they replaced the Italian with the Swiss. Good trade, SIG is known for it's quality.

The Army got rid of the M203 because the M320 can accept the newer longer "less lethal" rounds and since it swings out, a dud round won't land on the ground and kill you. The M203 had a bad rep - duds landing on the deck. And the M320 does come with laser range finders long with the leaf sight. It can be used stand alone and underbarrel.

@Sig's big Army win: Bout damn time someone made Colt and Beretta eat crow.

Colt - the only gun company to go bankrupt during the Obama era gun buying run...

Now that is more likely. The new Riot Rounds are a bit odd in dimensions along with the new intermediate velocity rounds.

The M-320 is also a candidate for firing the "Pike" mini missile.

I thought it was actually a heavily modified M203 that was going to fire the Pike?

Garcon: Nope. The Pike is way too long to fit in an M-203 by a rather large margin.

Here is Raytheon's blurb page for it. They are working on for the 320 and the FNH MK 13.

Huh, must have read something wrong then.

Any chance of changing the designator to something they could mount on the rifle though? Seems kinda annoying that you need a buddy to laze a target for you.

I suppose you could, but you would need to have really fast reflexes or somehow offset the launcher's elevation, as the Pike is initially fired out like a regular 40mm for the sake of not badly burning the launcher and its user.

Garcon: Maybe once they figure out how to make rifle mounted designators work.

Reflexes is hardly an issue the 40mm system in general has pretty low kick.

How hard can it really be to get one? It's like a laser pointer. Except not.

Oh yeah, I forgot most of the Army's M4's are built in Belgium these days.

Next thing you know they'll outsource Abrams production to Rheinmetall

edited 20th Jan '17 5:24:38 AM by math792d

For shits and giggles, some random Lego weapons.

M134D minigun (doesn't shoot, but does the Spent Shells Shower thing)

Barret M99 (this one does shoot projectiles)

Semi-auto AK-47 (also shoots)

edited 2nd Feb '17 10:03:32 AM by Nohbody

The US military is developing their own version of Tracking point called BOSS. It more or less does the same thing only it will be have development and design elements for the military.]] It will be lighter, likely more rugged, and knowing military contractors cheaper. It is paired with a ballistic calculator, laser range finder, environmental sensors, and even inclination detection.

It is being built around the Leupold Mark IV 6-222 power riflescope.

I get the feeling the military liked the technology of Tracking Point but not the company which had quite a few problems and decided they could do the same thing without them and for cheaper.

edited 8th Feb '17 6:33:15 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Everyone ready for another round of Name That Gun? Weird ass bullpup AK edition.◊

I thought it was a Vepr with railed furniture but looking closer at it I'm not 100% sure.

That scope rail looks dangerous. Look closely, just beneath the blur over the shooter's face. The way that back overhang tapers to a point — aimed right at the shooter's cheekbone.