Seems they just took the basic premise of the Disney parts of Kingdom Hearts, took the best parts of the original parts and made it work. I'm happy I'll be able to play a genuinely badassed Disney game that hasn't a (very overt) yaoi fangirl base (because they will never leave, I've learned to accept that fact). My best wishes to this. I mean, jesus Christ, it's like Fallout meets Kingdom Hearts. I'll kick ass if this isn't as awesome as the premise.
edited 29th Jul '09 9:53:35 PM by TheAdversary
My sentiments are fairly similar to Adversary's, i.e. its intriguing to see Disney iconography played seriously without the constant flavor of Tetsuya Nomura in one's mouth. What's interesting me most right now is how much it visually seems to be about the amusement parks rather than any given movie or set of movies in their canon. The biggest question on my mind as it stands, though, is just who the hell are you going to play as?
Oh Yeah?Mickey. It was said elsewhere. I think it's a platformer. I think this is going to be a different beast to Kingdom Hearts, So I'm not going to compare the two. I like Nomura's style, but that's neither here or there I'm not sure it's likely to get higher than a T rating. a Disney game with an M rating would not only be a really strange occurence, but I can see parents buying such a game for their kids. Although most kids wouldn't be disturbed by an M rated game, anyway, it would seem. If whatever world this is was in the next Kingdom Hearts, That would be recursive.
edited 30th Jul '09 2:52:18 AM by Pacific
Manliest Person on SkypeAssuming Mickey is the PC, I hope they stay true to his established character. There's a fine line between putting him in dark scenarios and giving him the tools to cope, and making him dark, and the latter is what they need to avoid. Mickey Mouse is fundamentally a pure soul, whether he's battling a tiny dust devil in order to rake leaves in peace, or taking on every Disney Villain at once in his own mindscape. KHII managed it pretty well, but only in a few brief appearances. It might be trickier when he's the main character.
whether he's battling a tiny dust devil in order to rake leaves in peaceYou played that game too?! ...now you've got that music stuck in my head.
edited 30th Jul '09 7:07:33 AM by Tangent128
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Taller than ZimMickey Mouse is fundamentally a pure soul, Mneh? Good-hearted? Yes. Definitely a heroic figure, sure. But "pure soul"?
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You played that game too?! ...now you've got that music stuck in my head.There's a game based on that old short?
Good-hearted? Yes. Definitely a heroic figure, sure. But "pure soul"?Yes. Fundamentally. There's nothing mean or sadistic or smug about him the way there is about some of the other classic characters.
By being one of the original cartoon stars Mickey has the distinction of being simultaniously competent and nice. Everyone who came after had to distinguish themselves from him, which resulted in them losing that quality. Goofy's the only other truly nice character I can think of right now, but he's also dim, which is how he's so different from Mickey. And the other truly popular character, Bugs, certainly isn't like Mickey either. Looking down the all of history you find that the ones who are like Mickey also tend to come off as complete ripoffs. Whether this is intentional on the part of the creators or not may vary, but it seems pretty constant that Mickey is the only one who can pull it off anymore, as it's rather difficult to "rip off" yourself.
edited 30th Jul '09 9:48:50 AM by Dan2025
dy/dx@Kara: Short? Older Than I Think, then. But yeah, years back I had one of those cheap little segmented-lcd games where you had to rake leaves while dodging whirlwinds, tires, etc.
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Propane accessoriesAre they still going to use the same voice actor? BTW, I'm buying this game, but I'd want it even more if they have laser Scrooge.
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Oh Yeah?Wayne Allwine sadly died recently. My money's on Quinton Flynn.
I think the one thing they should respect is Mickey's character. I mean, you can't have a cartoon mouse grimdarking it up murdering bitches and ho's with a chainsaw and a shotgun while shouting profanities. It's ridiculous. Just look at the Shadow The Hedgehog game; the storyline is So Bad, It's Good at best. And Sonic 360? that one we can all agree would be a lot better off with an excuse plot rather than what we got. Now, if we had a melancholic post- apocalyptic Disneyland and Mickey as the wide-eyed idealist that could maybe return it to it's former glory then it could work.
Manliest Person on SkypeThat's exactly what I'm hoping for, Adversary.
I think the one thing they should respect is Mickey's character. I mean, you can't have a cartoon mouse grimdarking it up murdering bitches and ho's with a chainsaw and a shotgun while shouting profanities. It's ridiculous.But... but what about Grand Theft Scratchy?
That goes for the villains, who Mickey will probably try to reform because that's what he does. And having this desperate idealism up at all times will just make him even more of a woobie, just and ironic one that doesn't realize how hopeless everything is. Cue a Kirk Summation to the Big Bad about what Disneyland should represent (hope, dreams and innocence instead of buildings with things in it) and hopefully either an earned happy ending or a "Glass Half Full" Bittersweet Ending.
edited 30th Jul '09 5:21:35 PM by TheAdversary
SuperhumanMickey is a Badass when done right... He should be suitably badass in this game. All Kingdom Hearts did was add the Longcoat
edited 30th Jul '09 3:20:08 PM by GameGuruGG
You got a good concept there, Adversary. It has a good possibility of being the main storyline. By the way, another great surprise would be to have Keno Don Rosa working at the script. That would be epic.
Manliest Person on SkypeVB, here's the cartoon short: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqdQxDD-Fpo Is the music the same as in the game? (Note also that this is about as annoyed as Mickey ever gets in the original canon.)
edited 30th Jul '09 7:12:50 PM by Karalora
They gotta bring that hat back. Seriously! Come on!
What?"Revenge of the Drawing Board Rejects" story huh?
Manliest Person on SkypeNeato. Would you like some Animation History 101 with your Nightmare Fuel?
dy/dx@Kara: Parts of the music sounded a little familiar, but it was a 5-second 8-bit loop so I really have no way of telling. Definitely based on that short, though.
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Irritable ReptilianI can't quite seem to get over this zombie scorpion Country Bear in the concept art >.>
It's like they're raping my childhood, but doing it awesomely! There's so much potential in this setting... Well, it is the guy behind Thief and System Shock, so looks we've hit a new spring of High Octane Nightmare Fuel! Anybody else notice Oswald the Lucky Rabbit's face on that rocket in Pentadragon's link? He's definitely an "old and forgotten Disney character;" maybe he's the Big Bad? Also, the black liquid running off of Disney Castle in this artwork is reminding me of the Phantom Blot...
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