Young Justice

Well, Slade isn't actually all that big of a deal. Badass mercenary only goes so far to make a character great. Doesn't help that I don't like how he's being done in the comics. He was great in the Teen Titans animated series though...

I confess a bit of Fan Myopia. Teen Titans was the bee's knees.

Considering the leg up The Light had on the league in season 1, I think it would actually be pretty refreshing if Artemis working as The Mole actually worked entirely as intended without The Light ever knowing what was really going on.

Deathstroke having a ponytail is not bad at all. If you dislike the show just because of of that I say what the hell.

Very, very interesting. I am excite. Especially for how the Artemis-undercover is going to work out, and the appearance of Static.

Oh, Superblys, hilarious as ever.

I really don't see how The Light not realizing Artemis is an undercover agent is them holding the idiot ball at all. The information is heavily guarded & they believe that Artemis is presently dead. The well has been poisoned with regards to Justice League & The Team so if they looked towards there for information, they'd receive nothing from it. Their own operatives attest to seeing the mistake and one of their top members can report as such. Artemis has her own disguise going as well, so that's pretty covered there.

When one stops to consider how information gets out like that, all bases are covered at the moment. Now, there are ways to find out, but for now, things should be square. Unless one's logic is just "They're smart, they should figure it out", at which I have to respond that there is a underlying means and logic always to working intelligently. Plus nobody is omniscient.

edited 19th Jul '12 6:48:25 AM by Prime_of_Perfection

Thanks, superblys, now I have the second Static Shock theme stuck in my head.

Gotta be-be gotta be- superhero!

I wonder if they're going to bring in any Milestone villains... I have to admit, I love Milestone's heroes but I'm not a fan of most of their villains.

If I'm right, weren't many of Static's villains created for the show?

Yeah. A couple from the show like Hot-Streak, Aquamaria and Tarmac were from the actual Milestone books, but most of them were Canon Foreigners. Likely because most of the comic was way too dark to adapt into a kid's show...

Still I hope they end up adding Static to the Team, not just in a cameo role! I always loved that show.

A decent amount of the recurrers were from the comics. Ebon, Rubberband Man, Specs and Trapper, and a couple assorted minor bang babies weren't though. Alva was from the comics, but Alva Jr might not have been.

edited 19th Jul '12 10:39:38 AM by KnownUnknown

Deathstroke having a ponytail is not bad at all. If you dislike the show just because of of that I say what the hell

Nah, the ponytail is totally unimportant. There's lots of reasons I dislike the show that don't relate to their characters' appearances, which I won't go into

edited 19th Jul '12 11:43:37 AM by Eagal

Was Artemis' mom going by Huntress or Tigress before she lost the use of her legs?

Explain why The Light not recognizing Artemis as an infiltrator would be an Idiot Ball ?

She was Huntress.

Tell me anyway.

edited 19th Jul '12 2:47:22 PM by Envyus

Explain why The Light not recognizing Artemis as an infiltrator would be an Idiot Ball ?

Given the ease with which the Light has walked all over the Justice League and the team, I can't imagine why some random villain popping up out of nowhere would fool them.

Much less one that fights just like Sportsmaster, who is using an alias that is closely tied to his family and who appears immediately after his daughter "dies". A child could see through that disguise.

And this is assuming that for whatever reason one of the half dozen mages (among whom is numbered a Lord of Chaos) and psychics they have on call are somehow incapable of casually piercing her disguise.

It's not some random person or anything. Regardless, the entire basis of why they must be holding the Idiot Ball is because of reputation, not actual logical analysis of HOW they gain the information. When one analyzes the how, I can't find any flaws based on the information at present. It's essentially just saying "They're the Light. So they HAVE to know."

edited 19th Jul '12 5:24:10 PM by Prime_of_Perfection

They should have some questions for her. I mean, you can't succeed in their line of work, much less display the sort of skill Artemis has, without making some kind of reputation. Unless they went to the trouble of manufacturing one for "Tigress," the Light should be somewhat cagey. Manta might be willing to take his son's word, though.

If Aqualad can convince Manta, I think that's the most important hurdle, since if "Tigress" is working with Aqualad, then Manta is probably going to be her boss (after all, only a handful of people- like Sportsmaster- work for the entire Light; most henchmen are specific minions of one member or another, like Sensei for Ra's or Psimon for Queen Bee). However, Manta seems to largely trust his son at this point, which would make the process easier. For all we know, "Tigress" will never need to deal directly with the rest of the Light, and the only one who could personally pierce her disguise is Klarion, and that's assuming he scans everyone he meets for illusions (which, while it would be smart, seems a bit too disciplined for him).

So basically, I think that if Aqualad and Artemis get Black Manta to buy it (and for all we know, Aqualad's already been laying the groundwork offscreen) they should be fine, at least at first, unless they give the rest of the Light reason to be suspicious of them. If they don't get Manta to buy it, the both of them are likely to get very, very dead, but that doesn't seem where this storyline is going (if how he's treated Aqualad thus far is indication of his usual MO for important new recruits, Manta'll probably set up some tests for "Tigress's" loyalty, however).

@Eagal I was actully asking why you don't like the show.

On the Tigress thing I agree with the others. The Light will figure her out eventully but not right away. People can be skilled with out having made a rep and Art fights almost nothing like sportsmaster (Eagal don't know were you got that from.) and looks nothing like she used to.

Too disciplined for him, yeah, but one shouldn't forget his blasted cat. That beast has enough common sense and wisdom for the two of them!

The most dangerous thing for Artemis would obviously be a mission alongside her father. He trained her, he may still recognize some of what he taught her in her moves, even if she goes with a completely different style than what she usually uses (she apparently goes from The Archer to a pure close-quarters combatant).

Well, she still has a crossbow, but that's different enough from a bow that it shouldn't matter.
I guess it just boils down to luck. Working under Manta, there's a chance she'll never have to deal with the individual Light members. If luck is on her side, Klarion never actually encounters her. If he does, though, its all over.

Also, given that Sportsmaster is working with Black Beetle, he might not have the Light's best interest in mind. The Reach aren't known for working with other superpowers. In fact, there is a little evidence in the show that the Reach are seen as competitors to the Light's unseen ally.

edited 20th Jul '12 12:11:01 PM by Zeromaeus

Considering the Light (seemingly) wants to create a human/Earth centric galactic hegemony and The Reach's typical MO, I doubt they're getting on all that well.

With that in mind, I'm pretty sure that whoever the Light's partner is, there's a doublecross in the not-so-distant future. The question is, will the Light be the doublecross-er or doublecross-ee? And looking at Impulse's Bad Future, that really doesn't seem to have been the world Vandal Savage had in mind when he talked about making Earth the center of the cosmos...