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Cut Naming Your Attacks
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avatar: Viv
 
Naming Your Attacks

Redundant in the face of Calling Your Attacks, Named Weapons and I Call It Vera.

edited 4th Nov '09 4:11:18 AM by Viv

 
 2 Lemurian, 4th Nov '09 4:15:58 AM from Touhou fanboy attic
avatar: Lemurian
Well, I'd say that Naming Your Attacks in the way of deliberately thinking of how to best illustrate your attack (like how it's done in Busou Renking) is a good Trope. But the current definition and use (based on the examples on the article) is really, really useless.

Slightly off-topic, do we have a Trope for attacks leaving meaningful imprints in walls/floors/objects?
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avatar: Hylarn
Creepy.
I really don't see a reason to have this. Naming attacks for what they do isn't really different enough from just Calling Your Attacks to split it off.

If we do want to keep this it'll need a rename. It sounds like it's just Calling Your Attacks.
I should probably put something here.
 4 Anke, 4th Nov '09 1:22:23 PM from Rhineland, Germany
avatar: Anke

I don't know Busou Renking, but I think I agree with Lemurian.

Considering real life examples like "bodycheck", "uppercut", "full nelson" and whatnot, which are named but afaik not generally yelled during use, Naming Your Attacks sounds like a viable supertrope for Calling Your Attacks.

I've seen examples of that in Battle Angel Alita, with some attacks being named when the fight is talked about, but none (or only very few) being called at use.

Name seems fine to me, but needs a complete rewrite. :P

edited 4th Nov '09 1:24:15 PM by Anke

avatar: Viv
 
It's got four examples and wicks. Cut and send to YKTTW.
 
avatar: Stark Maximum

I can already see this trope causing a lot of headaches in the future.

 7 Arilou, 5th Nov '09 1:18:13 AM from Quasispace
avatar: Arilou
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I can sort of sea the reasoning for having it though. Wheel Of Time for instance features a bunch of names for attacks/patterns in sword fighting (and even channeling weaves like Balefire) but they aren't actually called out.

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avatar: Viv
 
Well, Named weapons are covered by Named Weapons and pre planned manuevers are covered by Attack Pattern Alpha. So in effect, this page is a narrow subtrope of Calling Your Attacks, minus the calling.
 
 9 Anke, 5th Nov '09 9:22:57 AM from Rhineland, Germany
avatar: Anke

I still say it's a supertrope, not subtrope.

You need to Name an attack before you Call it, because you cannot Call the name of an attack if it is not Named. So, all Called attacks are Named, but not all Named attacks are Called.

Attack Pattern Alpha refers only to stuff that involves several people on the attacking side, as far as I can tell.

We do seem to have a consensus that the article as-is is not worth keeping, though, so if in that case deleting and starting over from scratch is normal...

avatar: Viv
 
Named squad based tactics are all covered by Attack Pattern Alpha. So, all squad based tactics are covered by Attack Pattern Alpha.

Even if its salvagable, it needs a rename, better examples and a rewrite. Send back to YKTTW.
 
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