I think this is one case where you have to have one for the other to exist. Anyway, the books just reek of Refuge in Audacity. What is a bit more when it already has so much?
I haven't liked the newer ones as much as the first ones. It seems to me that it is headed down the same path Xanth took: a few, good stories to get started and then the universe just keeps on going like the energizer rabbit.
Yu hav nat sein bod speeling unntil know. (cacke four undersandig tis)the cake is a lie!I still think the second is my favourites, just because it has a pretty nice balance of the weirdness of the Bookworld and the weirdness of Thursday's world.
...Also it had just come out when I first read the series.
I still love that joke in whichever book it was about how Harry Potter was unable to attend the meeting because of copyright restrictions.
I adore this series. Is there any real word on how much planning ahead Fforde does? All the little callbacks and multi-book plot threads (especially Thursday seeing a short-haired future version of herself in the land of the dead in book one, which we don't catch up to until book four) indicates a Harry Potter level of preparation, but there's also his statement that he recently got rid of all time travel just because it was too hard to make sense of.
For me, the overstuffing is part of the charm — although it means that I can't get much out of the books if I read them while muzzy-headed.
edited 26th Oct '10 10:42:49 PM by Aoede
survival of the tight-lippedI expect there has been some laying out of major plot arcs, but the details are made up individually for each individual book. (I think this is what JKR did, too.)
The owner of this account is temporarily unavailable. Please leave your number and call again later.The second and third are my favorites.
At first, I thought The Well of Lost Plots was a bit bland, but the more I think about it, the more its genius stands out in my mind!
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft NextIMO, one of the most obscure jokes in the whole series is the title.
Da Rules excuse all the inaccuracy in the world. Listen to them, not me.Unless Jasper is lying, the title isn't a joke, just a coincidence. Allegedly, he named Thursday after one of his mother's mannerisms.
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft NextThe next Next. (updated info from Fforde's site).
It's gonna rock.
edited 3rd Nov '10 7:45:56 AM by EddieValiantJr
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft Next/celebratory thingers
survival of the tight-lippedFforde hasn't really gotten a chance to play with strictly science-fictiony concepts. I can't wait to meet Sprockett and the SF district in general.
Oh, and the fanfiction!
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft NextI saw the mentions of fanfiction and vanity publishing - I so have to see this.
The reference to a Designated Love Interest struck me as sounding rather Trope-ish.
The owner of this account is temporarily unavailable. Please leave your number and call again later.I've read the first one, and it's really, really good. Right up there with Discworld and Hitchhikers.
I especially like how Fforde writes the first half of the books (Nursery Nrime and Thursday Next) in a very world/character-focused way, and then in the second half writes it in a plot/action-focused way. All te chess pieces, plot devices, characters, and setting are set up, to come together in a magnificent and stunning climax.
Never be without a Hat! Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours. My Pm box is open.There's no way this site isn't Fforde's waifu.
The first one is great, but the second and third are better, if you can believe it. Read them posthaste!
edited 6th Nov '10 10:58:48 AM by EddieValiant,Jr.
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft NextBetter?!
Maybe I should save them for when Pterry dies.
edited 6th Nov '10 1:04:11 PM by AlirozTheConfused
Never be without a Hat! Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours. My Pm box is open.Don't say such things :[
survival of the tight-lippedYeah, Fforde doesn't really stretch his creative legs until Lost in a Good Book. The logic of the Great Library is, like, this site as written by an Adams-style genius.
edited 6th Nov '10 11:49:41 AM by EddieValiant,Jr.
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft NextIf an Adams-level-Genius wrote TvTropes... The only thing missing from that image is an animal librarian -.
Never be without a Hat! Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours. My Pm box is open.I can see you'll enjoy the introduction of the footnoterphone :P
survival of the tight-lippedAnd the fact that the Cheshire Cat is the librarian at the Great Library.
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft NextHoly crap, you're right! I didn't even think of that.
survival of the tight-lippedNo. Freaking. Way.
Never be without a Hat! Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours. My Pm box is open.My favourite part is the literal Character devolpment that shows how "generics" become full fledged characters .It really gets across the point that these charcters have lives of their own and that authors just use them.Also i find it extremely funny that Mrs Bradshaw is badly described in Bradshaws series of books that its not mentioned she is a gorilla
edited 7th Nov '10 4:24:58 PM by JanAgro
It makes for a bit of 'Fridge Ohhhhh dear...' for me, just because of how many times I've read rather confused reports of ape-men from explorers of Africa way back in the day where it's sometimes impossible to say if they're talking about black people or actual gorillas/chimps/whathaveyou.
But that just means it Crosses the Line Twice, in my opinion.
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The Thursday Next books by Jasper Fforde are among my favorites in all of literature. Are there any other big fans around here? I dig the way the stories are structured and the characters that inhabit them, but most of all, I like the conceit of the Great Library—a world of sentient fictional characters you can just leap into. My only complaint is that Fforde's Worldbuilding can be a little overstuffed. The Great Library is astonishing enough, sometimes, I don't think we need all the dodo birds, mammoths, and time travel in "reality", too.
Care for a nice Nextian chat?
"Religion isn't the cause of wars, it's the excuse." —Mycroft Next