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The Namor one just restated the entire thing so that it was impossible for there to be an equivilant for men that wasn't crossdressing. I dunno what kin d of fucked up dreams the guys been having, but being trussed up like a piece of meat with only a small pouch holding your junk is not my idea of a fantasy.
On the other hand, some of the comments are genuinely stupid and really frustrating to see in real life, like accusing men of being gay because they don't like over-the-top fanservice or objectifying women. And the ones accusing him of trying to get laid, or the comments saying it's ok to be sexist. Pretty much everything else is completely facepalm worthy.

I absolutely agree. Those comments didn't offer anything worthwhile in the slightest. So I think the worst thing to do was draw attention to them. There was also bound to be plenty of fair-minded rebuttals in the comments section of the previous article and the worst ones were cherry-picked ... and even then, he came off as a jerk. Anyway ...

One thing I couldn't help noticing is that for someone so critical of sexism, he didn't have a high opinion of women; he seemed to see them as a measuring stick for comparing himself to the "virgins".

edited 30th Mar '12 9:04:22 AM by Guest1001

Ignoring how much of an asshole Luke Mckinely was there for a second, check out today's Mario Lopez article. Instant Classic.
379 Pyrite24th Apr 2012 11:07:40 PM from Right. Beneath. You. , Relationship Status: Hiding
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Bump.

I don't know why, but I liked this article - even if it isn't half as funny as some of the other stuff on the site.
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380 Saiga25th Apr 2012 01:09:32 AM from Sunny Australia , Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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That was pretty good, and I totally forgot about the chain one which was great.
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381 Deboss25th Apr 2012 01:59:29 AM from Awesomeville Texas
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I especially liked 1. I'm firmly of the Descriptivism mentality.
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I am against using one on technical terms. We should find another way to emphasise what we're saying.

But then, it's just a simple case of hyperbole really, so the point that we know what it means stands.

And as far as the rest of it goes, yeah I completely agree with the rest of it. Splitting fine hairs, being pedantic, common use etc.

... Probably mostly because apart from "literally" I would never even think of pulling someone up for those other ones. Number #4 is paticularly hard to understand if you aren't involved with literature professionally.
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I'm descriptivist but here's how I describe things:

Linguistic skill is dependent on many seemingly random variables...so by the central limit theorem, I can just approximate it with a Gaussian. Half the world is below average and half the above average. That means half the world is bad at understanding what other people are saying, at getting other people to understand what they are saying and even understanding what they themselves are saying. When trying to describe how a language works, you don't include those people because they speak in a bad version of what the other half speak.

Like "Imma be" is not a good way of expressing "I am going to be" because then the sentence of "Imma be rocking that body" brings to mind a scene of yellow and black striped creatures engaged in (tantric) sex.

Of course, I don't use this to resist things. The "emphasis of factual nature" to "generic emphasis" trend (literally, verily, really) is the sort of thing that gets referred by Jokers to Thieves. I just use it so that to me it reads "literally*".

No but seriously, while there are ways you can use "literally" for emphasis (because it has a very similar meaning to "really") in situations where you are using figurative phrases it sounds really odd because it has another meaning for those situations (and you could have just used "really") so the behaviour occurs as a case of misunderstood repetition. Other people who do get it only then understand you because we're able to understand the mistake. That certainly isn't going to convince us to start teaching out schoolchildren differently.

edited 25th Apr '12 4:28:15 AM by SomeSortOfTroper

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Ah. Yeah I think you're right, I had forgotten the additional layer of confusion literally adds when you're using metaphor.

I suspect people don't tend to use the figure of speech phrase when speaking literally, hence the reason it's used correctly so little in that instance.

Regarding the rules of Grammar though, I thought we couldn`t actually offer an explaination for most of the rules beyond "because this sounds better", or "this is how it is".

I've had teachers try to explain things only to conclude that they were elementary and thus couldn't be explained.

So perhaps lack of a concrete reason isn't a good argument for why we don't need to use certain rules?
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385 Saiga25th Apr 2012 04:41:10 AM from Sunny Australia , Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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I thought the rules of Grammar were meant to be to make sentences clearer and such.
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386 hazzaboner25th Apr 2012 10:41:36 AM from Sniper Land (your heart) , Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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The article gets way too descriptivist. It seems like half of linguistics folks these days are so firmly against prescriptivism that they can't see its merit. Thus this article bugged me.
387 Deboss28th Apr 2012 12:10:29 AM from Awesomeville Texas
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Most linguists are against prescriptivism because most attempts at it fail utterly, including attempts to build a good language with it.
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They broke the clock again, really?
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They're French. European places are somewhat fussy about stuff like that.

Still pretty awesome using their skills for something like that.
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390 Saiga7th May 2012 09:26:54 PM from Sunny Australia , Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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That is just downright bizarre, although I was thinking that #1 was probably just a copycat who was imitating the original.
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392 Pyrite9th May 2012 04:13:46 AM from Right. Beneath. You. , Relationship Status: Hiding
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...Mr. Rogers?! *faints*
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393 Blueeyedrat9th May 2012 07:15:51 AM from nowhere in particular. , Relationship Status: Mu
YEEEEAH— no.
If you see this photo out of context, your jaded mind will immediately assume you're seeing either 1) a young Mister Rogers goofing around with his producer off-air or 2) a "F*&@-IT, WE'LL DO IT LIVE!"-type meltdown.

The reality, unfortunately, is that Mister Rogers appears to have really been wholesome all the way down, and here he's leading a group of children in a song that has them counting off each finger in turn. When they get to the middle finger, Rogers cracks up ... knowing that it is going to be screen capped and shared on the Internet 45 years later.
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394 Myrmidon9th May 2012 07:20:20 AM from In Antartica
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I have seen Winston Churchhill's penis.

I HAVE SEEN WINSTON CHURCHILL'S PENIS
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395 Blueeyedrat9th May 2012 07:36:05 AM from nowhere in particular. , Relationship Status: Mu
YEEEEAH— no.
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396 Pyrite9th May 2012 09:00:04 AM from Right. Beneath. You. , Relationship Status: Hiding
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[up][up][up]Oh, I knew the context. Even so... evil grin
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397 TheWanderer9th May 2012 11:15:47 AM from New York , Relationship Status: The new Mrs. Reynolds
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I need some serious mind bleach after the Churchill picture.

A lot of the others were pretty cool. It was great to see a walking Hawking, for example, and I definitely thought the Bill and Hilary picture was cool.
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I know it's just a humor column, but it bothers me that I'm apparently "easily exited" or a liar for genuinely enjoying a good museum visit. Maybe it's that I've worked in one, and it gave me an appreciation for art, and that I'm interested in history and various knick-knacks.
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399 Gilphon9th May 2012 12:09:46 PM from The Third Sound , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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That whole article was pretty weak. I mean, maybe it's just my Canadian-ness, but that whole section on Hockey… grr. I'm not even a Hockey fan, but that…
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400 Myrmidon9th May 2012 12:24:55 PM from In Antartica
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The whole museum section generally reeks of anti-intellectualism. My little brother loves going to museums and he's 5 years old. Who is he trying to look smart for?

And as someone in the comments pointed out, this is Cracked, where they fanboy out over cool historical figures and gaze with fascination at weird animals. Disliking museums is almost against the spirit of the site.
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