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 101 moberemk, Mon, 10th Oct '11 8:00:29 PM from Canada Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
Dread Lord
Dang that last episode was interesting. Continuity odds all over the place, and the twist that 3XK is only in the background of all this was a nice bit of meta-misdirection on the part of the creators. Also, Ryan focus was interesting—wonder if this means we'll be getting an Esposito spotlight soon?
 102 Teemo, Tue, 11th Oct '11 12:07:11 AM from Nishinomiya Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
I think that's the first time I heard Ryan's first name used.

 103 Ralph Crown, Wed, 26th Oct '11 12:57:55 PM from Next Door to Nowhere
Short Hair
Nobody's seen this show in three weeks? The season started out kinda slow, but they seem to have recovered their mojo. I liked this week's ("Demon") because it showed Castle & Beckett working together with somewhat less sniping than usual. The Halloween eps are always good.

A side note. Just once I'd like to see a plot that makes sense all the way through.
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 104 moberemk, Wed, 26th Oct '11 2:27:03 PM from Canada Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
Dread Lord
Nah, the Castle thread is just always pretty quiet. The season really has been pretty decent, and I'm liking the way that they're changing up the pairings (like with this week's Ryan/Castle tag-team) to let the characters interact differently. It's nice.
 105 johnnyfog, Wed, 26th Oct '11 5:13:49 PM from NYC Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Mornin'.
No ponies or yaoi, so the Castle thread is a ghost town. [lol]
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"Demons" was a good ep, but I really liked jealous "Beckett" in "Eye Of The Beholder". Moar jealous Beckett pleez.

"You want to see how a human dies? At ramming speed." - Emily Wong.
 107 tricksterson, Thu, 27th Oct '11 12:11:03 PM from Behind you with an icepick Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Never Trust
Was that the one with the Robin Hoodish insurance investigator? Anyone else hoping she becomes a recurring character?
If it's an authority figure and it's breathing it's guilty
 108 moberemk, Thu, 27th Oct '11 12:28:48 PM from Canada Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
Dread Lord
Eh, she really wasn`t that great. At all. I do appreciate that she just bowed out gracefully at the end though, means less pointless recycled Castle/Beckett drama.
 109 Lawyerdude, Mon, 31st Oct '11 1:37:39 PM from my secret moon base
Citizen
Is anybody else but me getting fed up with Captain Gates? It's just that I don't like her. Like, at all. And every time she is on screen I grit my teeth and wait for her to leave.

I have no problem with the actor, mind you. It's just that the character doesn't have any redeeming or charming qualities. She's a bully, she belittles the people under her, she micromanages, and always has a chip on her shoulder. Why is she hating on a team that we, as viewers, have come to like so much?

How did somebody like that get to be in a position of authority? She clearly didn't get it by being a good cop, since she seems to have no idea how to run the section.

Sorry about the bitching, but she just gets my hackles up.
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 110 Geth Knight, Mon, 31st Oct '11 2:05:28 PM from St.Charles, Missouri Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She gets on your nerves because she's new. She hates on the team, because like you said "we, as viewers, have come to like so much". She doesn't know them, therefor she can't immediately like them as much as we do.They are new to her and as such, she's not used to how they operate.
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 111 moberemk, Mon, 31st Oct '11 8:38:53 PM from Canada Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
Dread Lord
[up]This. Doesn't hurt that Beckett's team operates in a slightly less by-the-book fashion than most investigations.

That said, regarding this week's episode: is it just me or have the Castle writers really stepped it up a notch in terms of breaking the series formula this year? Because I'm really loving the little twists and turns that they're pulling out of late. This week particularly had a particularly chilling villain, complete with a twist that managed to surprise me quite effectively.
Eh, she's very by-the-book which Beckett and crew are not, so there's definitely there's some tension but there's nothing to indicate she's an incompetent cop or the like. I like her because she's very different to Roy and it changes the dynamics of the show.
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 113 3of 4, Tue, 1st Nov '11 11:22:14 AM from Five Seconds in the Future. Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Feeble Turtle Duck
[up][up] Agreed, veeeery good episode.

[up] Well not incompetent, but she annoys me with her "get me results now!" attitude even if it is not physically possible. Or when she is pissed because the guy who has been suspected and arrested turns out not to be the culprit. As if the person's innocence is a inconvenience. She just comes across as somewhat unreasonable.

The general feeling I get from her is that she is more from the bureaucratic side of the job instead of the investigative (as opposed to Montgomery)

Montgomery was a leader. Gates...is just the Boss.

Still...only 7 Episodes into the season...maybe she'll show some deeps with that.

edited 1st Nov '11 11:34:48 AM by 3of4

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 114 Geth Knight, Tue, 1st Nov '11 12:45:38 PM from St.Charles, Missouri Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Montgomery didn't start as the leader either. He had to be the boss before he gained the trust of those under him.
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 115 Lawyerdude, Tue, 1st Nov '11 1:03:57 PM from my secret moon base
Citizen
[up][up]I think you hit the nail on the head. Gates's insistence on closing the case over than finding the guilty party grates on me. She should know that not every lead pans out and not every case is a slam dunk.

Montgomery seemed to be more of a "hands off" boss. He trusted his team enough to know that they were doing their best, and knew that things don't always go perfectly. Sometimes it seems that Gates is actively trying to impede the team's work.
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
 116 3of 4, Tue, 1st Nov '11 4:14:42 PM from Five Seconds in the Future. Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Feeble Turtle Duck
maybe she is simply overcompensating the "tough, in charge" attitude...we shall see.

[up][up]But he probably didn't get the trust of those by behaving like Gates.

edited 1st Nov '11 4:15:28 PM by 3of4

LMage: NO ONE ASKED FOR YOUR WITCHCRAFT THREE
That was a great ep. Loved the line when Beckett threatened to blow the merc's head off if he harmed Castle.

Yeah she needs to be fleshed out more. We barely knew anything about Montgomery 7 eps into season 1.
"You want to see how a human dies? At ramming speed." - Emily Wong.
 118 tricksterson, Wed, 2nd Nov '11 7:37:52 AM from Behind you with an icepick Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Never Trust
My problem with Gates is that she doesn't seem to have studied the groups record before, or even after, taking over. If she had she would realize that not only do they have a phenomenal win-loss ratio on their cases but that Castle is an integral part of their success.
If it's an authority figure and it's breathing it's guilty
Long Live the King
.... They have a phenomenal record of "catching" the bad guy... Somehow, I have a feeling that record falters a tad when those suspects go to trial... Of course there is the whole Hollywood Law thing they've got going, so who knows...

That being said, I have a feeling that while she rubs off a tad raw, Gates has a better feel of Ryan and Esposito(and Castle) because she's actually been their captain for 3+ months longer than Beckett...

She likely just dislikes Castle because he's not a cop. If that's the case, it's not that big of a deal at the moment. Mostly because Montgomory didn't either in the first season...

 120 Lawyerdude, Wed, 2nd Nov '11 8:23:21 AM from my secret moon base
Citizen
I think we can assume that the people they arrest are usually convicted or plead guilty. As with most cop shows, the investigation usually ends with the suspect caught red-handed or confessing to the crime, which in reality is just about all you need.

What I noticed about Gates a few times is that she often jumps the gun. She'll tell the DA or her superior that the guy they have in custody is the one, and then when Beckett finds a hole in the case, she turns around and blames the team for her own mistake at being too hasty.

On another note, I did enjoy Monday's episode. I liked how they broke with the ordinary formula and gave us a good story, even though I did figure out who the real culprit was early on.

edited 2nd Nov '11 8:28:49 AM by Lawyerdude

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 121 3of 4, Wed, 2nd Nov '11 9:08:39 AM from Five Seconds in the Future. Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Feeble Turtle Duck
[up] Whenever that happens i cannot help but thing "well, wait until you're certain, dumbass."
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 122 Lawyerdude, Wed, 2nd Nov '11 9:57:22 AM from my secret moon base
Citizen
On the other hand, maybe they're doing this so that Gates can have a truly redeeming character arc. For example, maybe Gates acts the way she does because secretly she's afraid that she's not equal to the task. As a result she fears her subordinates will try to undermine her (which they have), so she's overly critical and unreasonable to them. But maybe they get handed a case and Gates gets into a situation where we see that she's actually good at her job, proving to her that her fears are unwarranted. So, she learns that she can rely on her skills and on her team, and she starts to be less of a hardass.

Something like that could really be a good moment for the characters as a whole. (Fingers crossed)
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
 123 tricksterson, Thu, 3rd Nov '11 8:49:27 AM from Behind you with an icepick Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Never Trust
I actually don't have that much against Gates. I just think she'd work better if they kept the basic character but dialed her down a notch or two.
If it's an authority figure and it's breathing it's guilty
 124 Lawyerdude, Mon, 7th Nov '11 9:11:24 PM from my secret moon base
Citizen
After tonight's episode, I'm starting to warm to Gates. The writers gave her some one on one time with Beckett and showed us that she actually has some good detective skills. Maybe she'll improve after all. Here's hoping for a good replacement for Montgomery.
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
See I knew people were jumping on Gates too early- Character Development requires screen time and that means giving new additions to the cast some time. I think she makes a very interesting foil for Beckett...Beckett has become a more ready to play fast-and-loose (Castle's influence) and Gates gives a very strong vibe of being a By-the-Book Cop.
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