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The PokÚdex - Extended Fanon Edition:

 2226 Tangent 128, Wed, 10th Nov '10 4:08:57 PM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
dy/dx
Any PokÚmon can hold an item, so many of them must be more dexterous than they look. tongue
Conversation is a contact sport.
Good point.

Why would it use its coin when it has claws, anyway?

Better than a cross.
Distraction?
Closet DCLAU fan.
Needs to lurk moar
^^^^^Hm, what about Heracross?
herp derp
 2230 Sal Fish Fin, Thu, 11th Nov '10 9:08:49 AM from on top of Your Mum Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Trolling Swordsman
Alright, I tweaked the article a little. Anybody suspending disbelief yet?

 2231 Neo Crimson, Thu, 11th Nov '10 9:39:01 AM from behind your lines.
Your army sucks.
There's that inconsistency between using "stomach acid" as the thing used to fuel their fires and the "napalm" which is implied to be a separate substance. Not to mention the fact that Acids are generally NOT flammable, it strikes me as a bad idea to use an important digestive chemical as fuel flames.

I think its more plausible to say that Houndour have a separate internal pyro-sac like most other Fire Pokemon. And immature (and spayed) Houndour produce small amounts of aerosolized napalm that can be ignited as a conventional "gas flame". While Houndoom spray a streams of burning liquid.

Also the reason why Houndoom's fire is more dangerous is not because it burns hotter, necessarily, but rather the "napalm" has a tendency to cause severe nerve damage. Leaving painful, long-lasting, wounds in its wake.
Sorry, I can't hear you from my FLYING METAL BOX!
 2232 Blissey 1, Thu, 11th Nov '10 10:34:45 AM from a random PokŔcenter Relationship Status: I know
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part of me likes the acid on fire bit due to Rule of Cool, while the other part of me isn't quite able to suspend my disbelief.

if you ask me, make the napalm like substance something else, but also make it so they do mix a bit of stomach acid into it when it comes up.

edited 11th Nov '10 10:35:32 AM by Blissey1

Better than a cross.
What canon sources are you basing this on? I know the "flames that hurt forever" bit was from the dex, but what else?
Closet DCLAU fan.
 2234 Neo Crimson, Thu, 11th Nov '10 3:45:37 PM from behind your lines.
Your army sucks.
[up] I just thought nerve-damaging toxins would be a plausible answer to the whole "eternal burn" thing. It's backed up by the fact that Houndour learns Smog naturally, and learn Sludge Bomb via TM.
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 2235 Ace Of Scarabs, Thu, 11th Nov '10 9:43:36 PM from Singapore Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
I used the idea of flammable chemicals that cause lasting nerve damage for my own LP.

Granted, with modern medical technology and improved Burn Heals and much-refined Rawst Berry poultice concoctions, Houndour burns are more readily treatable than a few years back, but they still leave a lasting impression on those unprepared rookies who get their trusty Partners set alight by a Houndour for the first time in their lives.

One idea I had for either a player character or an awesome NPC would be this hardboiled trainer with a badass burn scar across his face from a Houndoom fireburst.
 2236 Marioguy 128, Thu, 11th Nov '10 10:27:00 PM from various galaxies
Geomancer
Do keep in mind that the flames from a Houndoom can easily kill someone. There's a hazard to keep in mind for someone who's doing that entry. Houndoom do have toxins in their flames.

[up]That person would be busy screaming though from the burn marks.

edited 11th Nov '10 10:29:25 PM by Marioguy128

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 2237 Ace Of Scarabs, Thu, 11th Nov '10 10:44:56 PM from Singapore Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
Not if he was hardcore enough, or the nerves are so damaged that he doesn't feel anything any more.
Better than a cross.
Hmm, nice loophole.
Closet DCLAU fan.
 2239 Silent Reverence, Fri, 12th Nov '10 9:01:30 AM from 3 tiles right 1 tile up
adopting kitteh
@Ace: and this is where I ask have you written this fic yet? I want to read it.
Needs to lurk moar
okay, I suppose I'll start on Heracross, if there're no objections.
herp derp
Hey, I've been lurking arround, and seen some suggestions about making binomial names for the different species and such. As a student of biology and amateur zoologist, I'd be happy to do such thing (although most grass Pokemon would have to wait, I am no botanist, and most grass types are just plain odd anyway). I'd even wipe out a taxonomical analysis, linking each species to each other and to real taxa (although that may be subjective and conflictive; would we classify Remoraid as a fish or a cephalopod, for example.)

Would like to see opinions before starting.

 2242 Tangent 128, Mon, 15th Nov '10 10:20:57 AM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
dy/dx
Could be helpful.
Conversation is a contact sport.
Okay then, so far, Oddish being Oddium wanderus (FR Pokedex) and Kabutops being, well, Kabutops maximus (some anime episode) are official binomial names (and it was bad luck for heartlessmushrooms to start adding those names to the SOLE line that gets one in the games). Also, seeing that evolution is pretty much growing up, the different stages of the same line would have the exact same name, not a different specific one, so Gloom/Vileplume/Bellossom are O.wanderus, and Kabuto is K.maximus.

Anyway, for other names, taking for instance fossil Pokemon, we could call Aerodactyl Aerodactylus imperator; its common name is an obvious transliteration of its generic name, and, for the specific name, well, Tupandactylus has the same one, and it sounds badass.

Shieldon/Bastiodon could be Scutops ("shield-face) horridus (Triceratops also has this. And Bastiodon is not a pretty-face per-se).

Cranidos/Rampardos would go straight to Pachycephalosaurus, if it wasn't for the spikes growing instead of shrinking with age. I'm inclined to go with Acantholus ("spiky dome") shinnohensis (the real Pachy is P.wyomingensis).

Archen/Archeos could go to Archaeoraptor fragilis; the line pretty much mixes Archaeopteryx with Dromaeosaurs (Not So Different to begin with), so the name fits, and it also references the forged chimera that made the headlines. Fragilis because it is a Glass Cannon.

Also, I'd be interested in knowing how different species would be classified: Would dragons be an unique group, or just different reptiles: Dratini is a sea snake, Bagon is a monitor, Larvitar is an iguana and Charmander is a lizard. If the first option, what would that group be? Would Gible be a terrestrial shark, or a shark-like reptile? Is Psyduck a duck or a platypus? Is Remoraid a very fish-like larva of a cephalopod, or just a fish that looks like an octopus when grown?

Anyway, I hope to get a better presentation in my next post, if it is seen fit to keep doing a clasification.

Last thing: Would using already existing genus be an option? I wouldn't call Ursaring anything but Ursus, but it may seem odd to other people...

 2244 Silent Reverence, Mon, 15th Nov '10 5:39:50 PM from 3 tiles right 1 tile up
adopting kitteh
Also, seeing that evolution is pretty much growing up, the different stages of the same line would have the exact same name, not a different specific one, so Gloom/Vileplume/Bellossom are O.wanderus, and Kabuto is K.maximus.
Wouldn't work as well, because the differences between members of the same evolutive branch are too strong to name them the same when scientific study is a purpose. The main problem is, as Chronix (I believe) mentioned some tens of pages ago, that you are assuming that taxonomy studies advanced the same way in their world as ours; however, the key difference that when a PokÚmon evolves its structure can vary completely (Bronzor, Clamperl, to mention some examples) means that while in our world we classify down to the species as the item of "least significant difference", in their world each evolutive stage is the item of "least significant difference" as well. That's why, I'd guess, we went with "branchux stageis" naming schema instead. So I'd stay with that scheme for binomial names; it just doesn't strike me that their scientists would rationally choose a schema like ours.

Also, I'd be interested in knowing how different species would be classified: Would dragons be an unique group, or just different reptiles: Dratini is a sea snake, Bagon is a monitor, Larvitar is an iguana and Charmander is a lizard.
Not sure what to answer here, but if it serves some, I'd say try not to think of say, Garchomp as a gliding shark or a sharklike reptile. I'd think of it as a Sharpedo-like Gligar or a bipedal Sharpedo. Or something like that. And come with the definition of a species from that. Then again, I'm not exactly sure how much do our animals exists in the PokÚverse, nor whether they are the same as we call them ours (ie.. is our cat their cat? Their cat would have to be pretty evolved with respect to ours if it has to compete in an environment with flamethrowering Persians).

I'm digressing again... better not listen to me but wait for someone more knowledgeable in the matter.

However, for a last pointer...

Last thing: Would using already existing genus be an option? I wouldn't call Ursaring anything but Ursus, but it may seem odd to other people...
I don't see why anyone would have problem like that. Actually, from a human-perspective hollistic vision, it would be expected that whatever the root "ursus" comes from, if we picked it for bears, others would pick it up for bear-like creatures (even if they don't know what a bear is) in their worlds as well.
 2245 Anomalocaris 20, Mon, 15th Nov '10 6:28:15 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: In another castle
Ridley's had enough of this.
I should get back to work on the berries, but I'm so busy lately...
The EYE is protecting Exor!!

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[up][up] We're already using an existing genus in at least one article. Whoever wrote Absol's put it in Panthera.

[up] Other forumers can help? There's a lot of berries to cover.

edit: Also, I'd call Glameow and Choroneko pretty closely related... mostly on the basis of looks, admittedly. Anyone agree?

edited 15th Nov '10 6:38:45 PM by InsanityPrelude

 2247 Anomalocaris 20, Mon, 15th Nov '10 6:46:39 PM from Mr. Bones' Wild Ride Relationship Status: In another castle
Ridley's had enough of this.
Well... I try to base the berries off of their namesakes, and happen to know quite a bit about fruit in general, including the more obscure ones that some of the berries are based on (Jaboticaba, anyone?). If any of the forumgoers happen to be skilled when it comes to fruit (Knowledge on both individual fruit and the usual nuances associated with certain traits such as seed size and taste.) then sure. Maybe I could consult when I have the time, too.
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 2248 Sullen Frog, Mon, 15th Nov '10 6:49:12 PM from Voormithadreth Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
Whisperer in Darkness
[up][up] That was me. I chose panthera because, let's face it, Absol is a big cat. An odd-looking big cat with a sickle blade protruding from its right temporal lobe and a tail like the blade of a scythe, but a feline nonetheless.
I wasn't arguing.

 2250 Sullen Frog, Mon, 15th Nov '10 6:58:50 PM from Voormithadreth Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
Whisperer in Darkness
I know, neither was I; I was simply clarifying in case it wasn't clear.

Difficulty conveying tone on the Internet, and all that.
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