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The PokÚdex - Extended Fanon Edition:

 251 Ace Of Scarabs, Wed, 31st Mar '10 8:08:36 AM from Singapore Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
Fire-types are the ones that naturally adopt fire into their living methods, or are on fire to begin with. Electabuzz is Electric-type despite the ability to Fire Punch, because it is able to eat/produce electricity at a degree only Elec-types can, for example.

  • More behavior for the Charmander family:
    • Charmander often prey on small creatures, and have been witnessed using their fire to bring down prey slightly bigger than themselves. As their digestive system is not fully developed yet, they tend to cook their food with their own Embers before eating.
    • Charmeleons are extremely intelligent and willing to work together to bring down large prey. They often resort to Fire Fang attacks while darting in and out with quick strikes.
    • Charizards often engage in ritual tests of strength rather than brawl it out over disputes despite their natural temper - this is mainly because too many Charizards have killed each other brawling over food, territory, or mates. It is still a bad idea to test their temper, of course.

  • Sentret/Furret data:
    • Omnivores, these little mammal-like pokemon are often seen competing with Rattata for food in the routes near towns. As their sensitivity to air pollution is high, not many Sentrets and Furrets are seen near bigger settlements or cities.
    • Another contributing factor to Sentret's presence in mostly-rural areas with fewer humans is their shyness.
    • They are also prey to larger pokemon like the Pidgeotto and Fearow, which is why they cannot be found easily in some other routes where the larger bird pokemon are found.

Temp data for Kangaskhan: The "baby" in a Kangaskhan's pouch is sometimes actually an underdeveloped twin.
 252 Kinkajou, Wed, 31st Mar '10 8:10:22 AM from you're not your
We Do Not Sow
That Kangaskhan thing makes a lot of sense.
"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Charizard's wing flaps wouldn't really provide enough thrust to get that body off the ground, would they?

What if the wings themselves are just for steering? If you notice, Charizard's tail is always straight when it's flying; perhaps in flight it rapidly expels flammable gas from the tip to create thrust? The wings are basically rudders. Charizard flight would be closer to a missile than it would be to bird flight.

 254 Ace Of Scarabs, Wed, 31st Mar '10 10:10:05 AM from Singapore Relationship Status: Drift compatible
 255 Element Blue, Wed, 31st Mar '10 8:56:36 PM from clapclapclapclapTexas
Resident Psychokinetic
"Also: How do we explain the various types?" -Kinkajou

I have a theory that I'll propose here, it seems to work, but it's kind of Hand Wave-ey. Ready?

Aura. A stereotypical Pokemon has seventeen cores of life force (Think Naruto and chakra points), each corresponding to a type designation, plus one more, for a more raw Life Energy type core. Some cores are more prominent than others in specific species, and the most powerful ones determine the attributes of the Pokemon in regards to type. The Pokemon instinctively utilizes one of these cores even for very mundane attacks. Tackle therefor uses the Normal core, and a Pokemon with a strong Steel core will resist it, not because the Pokemon itself is tough, but because the superpower-based oomph is countered by an inherent part of itself. The raw life force serves as vein-like framework for the other cores and if detected can determine how vital the organism is. Lucario's Aura attacks stem more from the raw core, but still have a Fighting affiliation. Humans typically have only three considerable cores. Those for Fighting and Psychic, and the raw core, and average people have basically inactive Fighting and Psychic cores. Humes who learn to use Aura or become psychics have less elemental restrictions as far as abilities go, because their primary "type" is typeless, but actual attacks tend to be on the weak side.

This idea could help explain massages and other things I've forgotten this idea could help explain.

edited 1st Apr '10 3:55:16 AM by ElementBlue

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^^ Basically.

Types are human classifications relevant to elemental proficiency. Naturally, Tentacruel would excel in Water and Poison-based moves. Make it Water/Poison, then.

 257 Kinkajou, Thu, 1st Apr '10 2:33:24 AM from you're not your
We Do Not Sow
^^ Hmm, so that could also Hand Wave the type matchups.
"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
 258 Element Blue, Thu, 1st Apr '10 3:53:01 AM from clapclapclapclapTexas
Resident Psychokinetic
Done with that post.

edited 1st Apr '10 3:53:12 AM by ElementBlue

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 259 Kinkajou, Thu, 1st Apr '10 3:59:46 AM from you're not your
We Do Not Sow
I also think that there's an element of "humans mastered all type cores to the point of not being able to use it themselves, but are able to master any Pokemon".
"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
 260 Element Blue, Thu, 1st Apr '10 12:28:49 PM from clapclapclapclapTexas
Resident Psychokinetic
I can kinda sorta see that, but that would require poke-powers in humans in the past... Ah! Like they said was true in that Sinnoh legend about Pokemon and people being indistinguishable. I like it!
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Was?
Afti - Yeah but then you have pokemon like Gligar who don't learn a move based on either of their types.

That doesn't mean anything.

Gligar doesn't learn any Flying moves (It does learn a couple Ground moves) because, over time, Flying attacks became less useful for dealing with its prey; it still has the structures that make it more proficient with that type, but they're beginning to atrophy from disuse. Theoretically, it would eventually become a Ground/Poison type with Levitate.

 263 Thnikkafan, Thu, 1st Apr '10 1:05:35 PM from Faroe Islands (not really) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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Do I have to do it in order?

I have a few ideas for Pokemon later in the Pokedex.

Also, Eggs and Baby Pokemon. How does that work?
Just call me Staghorn. It's not like you can pronounce Thnikkafan, anyway.
Was?
Neh, I still like the cores idea because it explains resistances nicely. A pokemon's type is determined by what is super-effective and what isn't seems normal.

Also Thnikkafan, you can add any pokemon you feel like working on. So far we started with the Kanto starters but moved onto the Sentret line.

 265 Thnikkafan, Thu, 1st Apr '10 1:15:29 PM from Faroe Islands (not really) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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Okay.

I would like one of those handy Pokemon design-up sheets that Tangent has.
Just call me Staghorn. It's not like you can pronounce Thnikkafan, anyway.
 266 Tangent 128, Thu, 1st Apr '10 1:47:03 PM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
dy/dx
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Just make sure we don't have too many discussions at once.


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!! Morphs [Oak Catalog #]

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!! Notable Biology

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!! Habitat

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!! Hazards

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!! Courting and Childrearing

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edited 15th Dec '10 11:39:06 AM by Tangent128

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 267 Thnikkafan, Thu, 1st Apr '10 2:26:42 PM from Faroe Islands (not really) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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Wait. Are there animals (cows, deer, bears) or are there only analog Pokemon (Miltank, Tauros, Ursaring)?

Your descriptions mention them, but they don't really make sense to me.
Just call me Staghorn. It's not like you can pronounce Thnikkafan, anyway.
 268 Thnikkafan, Thu, 1st Apr '10 6:03:25 PM from Faroe Islands (not really) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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Grimer Line

Morphs [Oak Catalog #]

  • Grimer [088]
  • Muk [089]

Physical Description: Grimer and Muk

Grimer and Muk look like mobile piles or puddles of sludge. This sludge is usually purple, although brown, black, gray, and green Grimer and Muk have been recorded. Grimer and Muk also have two gray spots near the center of the Grimer/Muk. These are commonly misinterpreted by artists to be fully functional eyes. Grimer are about 1-3 feet in height and 4-12 feet wide. Muk are about 6 feet tall and 15 feet wide, but are usually larger. Muk usually are wider than Grimer, but the surefire way to tell the difference is the stench.

Notable Biology: Grimer

Although Grimer appears to be a single organism, it is actually a colony of simple pseudoorganisms. The cellular structure is radically different than that of other organisms, appearing to be constructed of petroleum compounds and other industrial waste products. They also emit X-ray radiation, which has led some to believe that is it sludge exposed to X-rays. These pseudoorganisms have a weak form of specialization, forming rudimentary eyespots and an extremely simple digestive sac. Most types of this pseudoorganism die off upon contact with the air, rapidly decaying into an extremely toxic and putrid smelling byproduct that Grimer uses as a natural defense mechanism. This byproduct can be reconverted into cells, resulting in only a mild net loss of Grimer. The organisms making up Grimer are highly acidic, and decay rapidly and spectacularly when a base is applied. Therefore, an effective way of dealing with Grimer are soaps and cleaning supplies, although this has the side-effect of making the Grimer explode.

Evolution

When three to four Grimer have been combined, or a Grimer gets large enough from consuming sludge, the cells of the entire organism mutate or "evolve", transforming the Grimer into a Muk.

Notable Biology: Muk

Muk, like Grimer, are also colonies of simple pseudoorganisms. Differences at the microscopic level between Grimer and Muk are very little, but they create an overall different creature. For starters, the cells of a Muk decay much more vigorously. This causes the secretions of the Muk to have much different properties. It emits an extremely foul-smelling odor, it slowly causes anything it comes in contact with to decay, and it is about 30 times as poisonous. The secretions also create a film around the Muk, making it more durable. However, the secretions are not able to be reconverted. This means that the Muk needs to consume much greater amounts of food than a Grimer would. Fortunately for the Muk, the Muk is more suited to mass consumption. Muk are only limited in size by the amount of food in the area.

Habitat: Grimer and Muk

Anywhere there is sufficent oil, sludge, or pollutants. Common locations include industrial plants, sewers, and polluted bodies of water.

Diet: Grimer

Smaller Pokemon, although they are capable of taking down creatures larger than they are by suffocation. They also seek out and consume sludge and other "filthy" things, prefering industrial sludge. Grimer can mutate small amounts (10-15%) of the sludge it consumes into more of the pseudoorganisms, increasing the size of the colony. Grimer also seek out and absorb other Grimer.

Diet: Muk

Muk consume anything smaller than they are, although they prefer living organisms, Grimer, and plastics. They also consume sludge, much more efficently (75-100%) than Grimer. Muk chase down things much smaller than them and ambush things only slightly smaller than they are.

Hazards

Grimer and Muk colonies secrete an acidic, virulent, and extremely toxic chemical. This comes from the decay of the organism upon coming into contact with air. Secretions from a Muk are more virulent than those from a Grimer, and cause anything it comes in contact with to decay. Contact with Grimer secretions causes death in plants and small Pokemon, and poisoning in trees, larger Pokemon and humans. Symptoms of Grimer poisoning are a fever, nausea, and a rash where the secretions came into contact. Muk secretions cause plants, trees, and small animals to die, and potentially fatal poisoning in humans and larger Pokemon. Symptoms include shortness of breath, blurred vision, shock, and paralysis.

Grimer are also capable of physically attacking, usually by attempting to suffocate the target. Larger Muk are capable of grabbing individuals and consuming them whole. Muk are also able to fling their sludge for long distances. Grimer and Muk are also radioactive, emitting potentially harmful X-rays.

Courting

Grimer and Muk do not court. Muk, if the individual is large enough, bud, producing Grimer. Muk also, if there is a lack of food, split into anywhere from three to twelve 'pseudo-Muk'. These eventually convert into Grimer over the course of an hour, enough for them to not attack each other right after mitosis.

Social Structure

Grimer and Muk are independent creatures. If two Grimer meet, they attack each other, eventually merging into a larger Grimer. If two Muk meet (which is both extremely rare and a sign of negligence and uncleanliness), they also attack each other, using suprisingly creative methods to turn the other Muk into a consumable sludge. Grimer keep a safe distance from Muk, and Muk eat Grimer as they do anything else.

Ways of Extermination:

Grimer are occasionally found in the home or workspace. The organisms making up Grimer are highly acidic, and decay rapidly and spectacularly when a base is applied. Therefore, an effective way of dealing with Grimer are soaps and cleaning supplies, although this has the side-effect of making the Grimer explode. Using fire is not recommended, as while it destroys the Grimer, it creates toxic vapor and the Grimer survives for about fifteen seconds after ignition. Once the Grimer is destroyed, use special soaps to clean up any remaining sludge.

If you encounted a Muk, call the authorities. Bases cause the film to violently effervesce and scatter. Fire only ignites the film. Both of these anger the Muk.

Other Notes

Capturing and owning a Muk is not recommended. Muk also cannot be captured by anything short of a specially made ball, due to the acid secretions somehow being able to rot through the ball - and a hyperpressurized Muk is a very bad thing. Sufficently large Muk are legally declared as bioweaponry, and are illegal to own without permission. Muk take teams of firefighters using chemicals specifically designed to destroy Muk to be destroyed.
I took it a bit more freely than I probably should have. Either way, I like it.

edited 2nd Apr '10 7:06:46 AM by Thnikkafan

Just call me Staghorn. It's not like you can pronounce Thnikkafan, anyway.
 269 Magus, Thu, 1st Apr '10 7:34:48 PM from West Clownadelphia
Propane accessories
Addressing one problem I've had: Why does Geodude float?

Possible answer: It has some measure of telekinesis over its own mineral structure. When it evolves into Graveler, it becomes too heavy to lift itself. It isn't classified as rock/psychic because it doesn't have the assortment of weaknesses and immunities most psychic types have and it can't use its powers on anything other than itself.

Alternate answer: Gravity control.
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Geodude doesn't float. Depictions of it floating are lazy artists; its powerful arms are used to climb mountains to find prey or shelter. On flat ground, it moves very slowly because they are sub-par as "legs".

 271 Magus, Thu, 1st Apr '10 9:04:24 PM from West Clownadelphia
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Oh. Oh well.

I'mma write up a Tropius article when I have more time. My personal favorite flying type!
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 272 Rainbow, Fri, 2nd Apr '10 5:44:57 AM Relationship Status: Puppy love
Sailor Moon Fan
About Grimer and Muk, was that trying to go off of the Pokedex descriptions? The idea of there being a Pokemon that's illegal to catch (aside from some legendaries) doesn't fit with the anime or the games, Ash even had a Muk that climbed all over Professor Oak!
Pink Sugar Heart Attack!
 273 Thnikkafan, Fri, 2nd Apr '10 7:05:53 AM from Faroe Islands (not really) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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I just ran with the Pokedex descriptions. I haven't seen the show in, like, ever.

Yeah, I know Ash had a Muk, but to be honest, I didn't care. I was just making Muk into a completely different beast.
Just call me Staghorn. It's not like you can pronounce Thnikkafan, anyway.
I thought it was established we were going by the games' canon.

In that case, Koga has a Muk. As a high-ranking league official, I doubt he'd secretly have an illegal Pokemon.

(Also, Muk very clearly has a distinct, individual mind. How do the microbes form this?)

 275 Tangent 128, Fri, 2nd Apr '10 8:22:22 AM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
dy/dx
We're going by whichever canon works best, or departing from it entirely if none of them are satisfying.

That said, the Muk description may be a bit overpowered there... and 3 out of 4 continuities I know of give Koga a Muk.
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