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DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
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#2176: Sep 20th 2012 at 7:25:19 PM

X recognizes her as "the girl from the Repliforce incident." And we only know one way that turned out...

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#2177: Sep 20th 2012 at 7:49:55 PM

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Exactly.

The fact that Iris is smiling at them indicates that she hasn't gone through the...specific events that led her to death yet.

I curious as to where this takes place for her in her own timeline. Since she has the hat, it can't be too long before the events of 4, though as this is a crossover, I may be overthinking it.

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#2178: Sep 20th 2012 at 7:50:00 PM

[up]What are the chances that Vile guns her down.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#2179: Sep 20th 2012 at 8:10:23 PM

If these characters are just robots why can't they be rebuilt if they die?

Or are reploids like so humanoid that they're too complex to rebuild?

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#2180: Sep 20th 2012 at 8:12:41 PM

Well, I guess it would depend on the extent of the damage. If their memory or whatever is destroyed, remaking them would probably be akin to just making a new reploid.

edited 20th Sep '12 8:13:56 PM by Zeromaeus

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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#2181: Sep 20th 2012 at 8:15:09 PM

Reploids can be really hard to kill but once they're dead they're as dead as a human. You could make one that looks just like the deceased, but since Reploids have free will you can't just program in their personality and memories. When you try you get people like Copy-X.

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Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#2182: Sep 20th 2012 at 8:20:30 PM

Copy-X was his own person. He just thought he was X, and he couldn't handle it.
Hrmm.
I still prefer the Master X scenario.

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DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
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#2183: Sep 20th 2012 at 8:23:39 PM

[up]Still, trying to revive dead Reploids seems to have as much of a chance of having side effects as what happens when people attempt to revive other dead people in other media (see Sigma in X6? Robo-zombie).

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Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#2184: Sep 20th 2012 at 8:25:28 PM

Well, every iteration of Sigma is less put together. Until X8, where he barely exists at all and, in fact, dies a permanent death.

Like I said, it probably depends on how much of the reploid is left, and what parts. Let's assume their personality/memory important bits are in the head. As long as their head survives, then they should be able to come back (Zero is probably a good example here). Sigma is an exception because he was preserved as a virus (I love the virus. The Wily/Zero virus passes to Sigma and just fucks all kinds of shit up. Wily's legacy continues. It even comes to a head in the Cyber Elf Wars, but that's something completely different). A virus that had less and less of an effect over time before it was finally isolated in space.

edited 20th Sep '12 8:29:16 PM by Zeromaeus

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#2186: Sep 20th 2012 at 10:27:27 PM

100 likes, 2,885 dislikes

Woah. surprised

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#2187: Sep 20th 2012 at 10:28:52 PM

Well, whatever news Capcom was going to release about Mega Man will officially never matter now. The series is Ruined FOREVER.

edited 20th Sep '12 10:29:08 PM by nomuru2d

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#2189: Sep 21st 2012 at 1:21:49 AM

I wonder if OVER-1 will appear in other works or get his own series, and if there's anything else unique to his universe. Depending on which one Xover takes place in we might see other new/different faces.

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#2190: Sep 21st 2012 at 3:22:41 AM

[up][up][up][up]You think they'll pull a Square Enix on us by disabling likes and dislikes? Yes, I'm still buttsore about the whole thing.

[up][up]Fukken saved. I'd noticed it's non-innuendo Scunthorpe Problem when it was announced, and this will come in handy.

You know what really amazes me about this "game"? How Legends 3 was cancelled because it wasn't up to Capcom's standards but this is okay. The one person I've heard review it loathed it, and the one person outside of Capcom who played Legends 3's demo loved it and looked forward to its release. Something seems really backwards here, and it's not just me still angsting over this a year later.

On a lighter note, assuming the X characters and mooks aren't the only ones in the game (not to mention DASH), who else would you like to see? I'd love to see Colonel, and of course Sigma. On the Legends side, I'd expect to see Glyde and the Birdbots as rivals, and maybe Lex Loath as an NPC.

edited 21st Sep '12 3:34:09 AM by HalberdStopCrashing

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#2191: Sep 21st 2012 at 6:59:09 AM

It had about five seconds of "Gameplay". That's freakin' hilarious.

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Flanker66 Dreams of Revenge from 30,000 feet and climbing Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
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#2192: Sep 21st 2012 at 1:09:45 PM

If these characters are just robots why can't they be rebuilt if they die?

I think Zeromaeus is right. Admittedly, Dr. Weil managed to revive the Einherjar Eight Warriors and the Weil Numbers with little to no problem, but he's an expert in reploid DNA revival (basically technobabble for "bring back reploids from the dead"). Then again, their personalities were not particularly important to him at that stage - the mere fact that they were combat viable was good enough.

It's entirely possible that during the time of the X series the technology required to practice reploid revival techniques hadn't advanced enough yet. Sigma manages to get around this because he's Sigma and the fact that he's also the carrier of the Sigma Virus. And as Zeromaeus noted, his "quality" degraded with each successive generation until he was a shadow of his former self. I'm going out on a limb here, but I imagine that with each revival he lost a little more code or what have you until he was reduced to his basic components. Once that was wiped out during the battle on the moon, he was pretty much finished.

It also provides a handy explanation as to how he got used by Lumine - his faculties weren't what they once were, so he probably was only dimly aware of the manipulation, if he was indeed aware of it at all.

And yes, Copy X is not X aside from having a replica body and copied capabilities. I'll refrain from harping on about it. You've all heard me enough to know what I'm getting at.

@Timeline of Project X Zone:

Don't quote me on this, but perhaps it takes place during an AU Repliforce incident where Iris somehow survived or prior to Iris's "endgame".

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#2193: Sep 21st 2012 at 2:11:30 PM

I think the art of reploid resurrection is brought up in X6 as well (the 8 bosses all died at various points prior to the game and were revived by their creator*

) and I am pretty sure it is explicitly stated as illegal, if not, it's at least frowned upon. (Of course, this is right after Eurasia, and there is a whole new crisis afoot, so I don't think people care too much about enforcing laws on the 8 reploids claiming to be the good guys.*)

Not to mention the times Zero, Sigma, Vile, etc have died and come back.

So in other words, reploids can be brought back to life with little to no problem. I think the issue is less on if they can, but on if they should. (Naturally, Zero is exempt from this debate)

edited 21st Sep '12 2:24:37 PM by Otherarrow

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#2194: Sep 21st 2012 at 2:37:24 PM

[up]I see what you're saying. Keep in mind that Namco X Capcom and Endless Frontier were both canon to an extent, as KOS-MOS and Xiamou/Reiji remember meeting each other, and the events of the second and third game take place between that time KOS-MOS had already been rebuilt and the characters remark on it. I imagine the whole Iris issue will be addressed in game.

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#2195: Sep 21st 2012 at 2:45:17 PM

[up]Vile's core appearently survied each of his deafeats. Gate used a virus to reserect his creations and revived Sigma so he was quite good at bringing things back. Zero's Head survied each time.

No other reploids really died and came back like those guys.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#2196: Sep 21st 2012 at 2:46:28 PM

I'm still wondering how Vile came back for X8.

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#2197: Sep 21st 2012 at 2:50:16 PM

I just mentioned it Vile's core apperently survived all his defeats. He was also appearntly beaten two more times before X 7.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#2198: Sep 21st 2012 at 2:51:39 PM

... Which wasn't shown in any game from X4 to X7.

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#2199: Sep 21st 2012 at 2:57:18 PM

[up]I know that But the X8 Vile is Vile Mk V meaning there were two Versions of Vile that were beaten off screen.

Jaryl from Austria Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#2200: Sep 21st 2012 at 3:07:36 PM

[up] Or scrapped, because someone found them to be insufficient. Well, at least I like to think of it that way.

edited 21st Sep '12 3:07:49 PM by Jaryl


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