You mean greased and naked?

This page-topper is delicious and goes well with barbecue sauce.

edited 1st May '12 9:54:44 AM by Keybreak

Let's leave that to doujins, shall we? I feel uncomfortable imagining the actors shamed like that.

Doujins? Shamed?

Doujins: amateur comic books. Like this. (scroll down). Or this.

I see, I really see.

I take great enjoyment in this kind of stuff, yet I still identify as straight male man.

A straight mailman?

Pizza Boy Special Delivery?

;P I was more pointing out the redundancy of "male man".

Unless maybe you're trans? Like Unique.

That's why I said male man. Female men and men females are trans. *male is the biological sex, *man is the social role.

Feh, I never call myself a man. Either a male or a guy.

Manhood carries with it the connotation of responsibility and "maturity", and who wants those? ;P

I like to think of myself as a manly man, in the Major Badass sense rather than the Kratos sense.

Remember: Joe was introduced in Heart. Santana hasn't been evil lately, she's been bitchy. I think Joe is the kind of guy who would love anybody who isn't an irredeemable asshole.

Blasphemy! There's no such thing! Perish the thought!

Oh yeah, and just to clear stuff up: When I said Dance With Somebody was one of the memorable moments from the otherwise unmemorable post-hiatus stuff we've seen so far, I meant the musical number Dance With Somebody, not the episode. I actual barely remember what that episode was about.

The kids angsting over graduating.

Ah, yes...

The handling was pretty terrible, but those are average kids, academically.

After Glee, I'd love a series about Geeks. Not Hollywood Nerd, but the sort of people that grow on to become Stepehn Fry or Niger Harthworme. You know, something with IQ-type banter, something with lots and lots of wit and fun and cultured coolness, with wordplay and puns and stuff. It would also be more cross-media: some of them would do show choir, others would do theater, literature, experimental sciences, etc. Positive, fun, cool people. Not the chronic jerkass losers from Big Bang Theory.

I mean, imagine if discussions in the Absurdly Powerful Student Council sounded like this: (Discussing funding for local councilsextracurricular club activities and the attitudes of their leaders... the ministerstudent council president ignored the teacher assigned to "advise" her and went and actually talked to the students)

Okay, it'd have to be a weird school, but, honestly, "you can't have a minefield in a graveyard..."

edited 1st May '12 4:07:21 PM by TheHandle

How might they all relate to each other, I wonder, since they'd be from separate sectors of geekdom? Just one huge group of friends and friends-of-friends? Or maybe they save the world together?

Well, kind of like us tropers navigate through the subforums without much regard for cliques, which overlap a lot.

Saving the world is so cliché... no, they ain't St. Trinian's, they're just having fun being in High School. In idealistic/over-the-top/hypercompetent but realistically-grounded ways. Sort of like Glee or High School Musical, except instead of focusing on unrealistic musical and dancing talent, they focus on unrealistic amounts of wit, culture, and overall brilliance. Their drama club must be at least at this level (of Crazy Awesome):

edited 1st May '12 4:11:36 PM by TheHandle

But what's the conflict? Hopefully not cheesy high schooler drama...

Oh, maybe they're all in drama club? That place attracts, like, every kind of geek.

edited 1st May '12 4:13:06 PM by Haldo

That could be the linchpin, yes. The nexus where they all meet.

And high-school drama is never light from the perspective of those in it, because, having lived very short lives, and living in very small worlds, they don't have any. So it's all a matter of What Do You Mean, It's Not an Index?. Think Onani Master Kurosawa, not Death Note.

edited 1st May '12 4:16:43 PM by TheHandle

Yeah, but high school drama usually looks maudlin to outside viewers (e.g. the audience).

As I said, it's all a matter of how you play it. The same way that, in Yes Minister, matters of life and death, and terribly wasteful errors on the scale of a nation, are treated with flippancy and detachment and still have the characters come off as human, likeable, and not-buffoons

you can do the exact opposite by holding yourself agaisnt the problems of the teens, hugging them as close and tight as possible, without having the kids come off as whiners and wangsters.

And yes, you can tell I have a massive bonerliking for Yes Minister: it is a fun series.

edited 1st May '12 4:30:36 PM by TheHandle

Preposterous. QI wasn't broadcast on the US because the executives at the american branch of the BBC thought Americans wouldn't get it. Why do you think they would "get" a show that glorifies geeks and precocious children? No, they're only interested in either romance or "insecure ambition" stories where the character succeeds against the odds through sheer Anthropic Principle. Glee provides them with both, and it looks like all our kids are getting a happy ending.

Honestly, I want the Glee kids to fail, realistically, and to try other options. Just like Jesse St. James, for all his awesomeness and stardom, failed to become a star himself, and became a coach instead.

They're jerks that live in a Crapsack World. Bad stuff should happen to them on principle. And it should be their fault.