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Title is hijacked for a work: Series.Merlin get usage counts

Dragon Writer
Just noticed that Main.Merlin is about the TV series, not the character of Arthurian legend. This may be a problem.

I'm too busy to investigate the wicks atm (feel free to step in), but Moonheart is one example of misuse as it links to the legendary character, not the series.

Shouldn't we move the article to Television.Merlin ?

edited 8th Dec '10 7:43:22 PM by Stratadrake

 2 shimaspawn, Wed, 8th Dec '10 7:45:02 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
I don't see why the character needs his own page. He isn't a work. He isn't a trope. He's just a character. He should be on the character sheet of the appropriate work.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
He may be a prevalent fictional character outside of his own story though. You know, shit like Merlin's Shop Of Mystical Wonders.
 4 Deboss, Thu, 9th Dec '10 7:08:36 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I think a character sheet for the original Merlin and how he's used wouldn't be bad. He's pretty much a Historical-Domain Character (or whatever the fictional equivalent is).
 6 carla, Thu, 9th Dec '10 9:57:38 AM from panama city, panama
yeah, i wondered about this when i first saw this page, too. seems like it should be done in a similar way to Robin Hood (which has the main/ page for the character, then a series/ page for the 2006 BBC show).

and it should be mentioned that there's also a previous work with the same name (a TV mini-series starring sam neill as merlin).

 7 Ghilz, Thu, 9th Dec '10 11:54:44 AM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
I agree that Merlin should be about the character. While he is generally tied to Arthurian legends, this is not always the case (Quest for Glory II mentions Merlin but not Arthur).
Dragon Writer
BTW, I did a quick skim of the wicks earlier today, focusing on articles that looked like names of works (assuming that any mentions of "Merlin" in trope articles were examples taken from the TV series). Conclusion: Appears that Moonheart is an isolated event.
 9 Daremo, Fri, 10th Dec '10 2:24:47 PM from Parts Unknown Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
The Pervert King
Have a look at Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Excalibur in the Stone. As well the Sam Neil series is in the Film namespace for some reason, and frequently goes unlinked. I'm pro "Merlin as character" for Main, and a split Series page for the BBC and Sam Neil shows.
Sometimes the question is not, "Am I being misanthropic?" but rather, "Am I being misanthropic enough?"
Well, the full title is "The Adventures of Merlin"

 11 BlackWolfe, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 5:30:32 AM from Lost in Austin
[up]Wasn't there a pilot movie (or otherwise completely unrelated movie) just called "Merlin"?
But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
 12 ccoa, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 5:49:36 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
^^I dunno about in the British version, but the American import is only titled "Merlin."
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Remarkably Unremarkable
I agree with having the main entry be for the character of Merlin himself. It's like having the main page of Santa Claus be Santa Claus

edited 23rd Jan '11 6:14:16 AM by tendollarlameo

 14 shimaspawn, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 8:20:43 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
The British version is just Merlin as well.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
It would be Series.Merlin, rather than Television.Merlin, and yes, it should be moved, if someone has something to say about the Arthurian figure.
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 16 Dragon Quest Z, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 10:17:13 AM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Plus if its full title is not that, it should be moved to the full title anyway.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
 17 shimaspawn, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 10:23:03 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
[up] The other isn't the full title. It was the pre-production working title and is not the official title. The official title is just Merlin.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 18 Dragon Quest Z, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 10:37:26 AM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Then I was misinformed.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
A while back someone informed me of a wiki policy that ideally works should go in their own namespaces, and not on Main? Someone in a position of authority, please step forward.

edited 23rd Jan '11 10:49:33 AM by melloncollie

 20 ccoa, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 10:58:04 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Sandbox.Merlin. How's that for a start?

edited 23rd Jan '11 10:58:29 AM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
We have Dennis the Menace (US) and Dennis the Menace (UK).

If we want to make pages for the British television series and the US miniseries, we could easily do Merlin US and Merlin UK
 22 ccoa, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 11:14:29 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
There's a US series titled Merlin besides the imported one?

EDIT: Nevermind, found it. Why not Merlin-1998 for the older series? That's what we do with series like V. Assuming anyone wants to make a page for it, anyway.

edited 23rd Jan '11 11:19:43 AM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
^ Mini-series. I thought that's what other people in this topic were bringing up.

And we shouldn't add a year because that's what we do with Remakes. The mini-series is not a remake, and it's chief distinction between the British series is country of origin.

edited 23rd Jan '11 11:19:29 AM by SeanMurrayI

 24 ccoa, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 11:21:48 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
It's not just for remakes.

And since the currently running Merlin is being released in both countries, that would be less confusing.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 25 shimaspawn, Sun, 23rd Jan '11 11:27:52 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Yeah, not everyone knows that the series is actually UK. A lot of people just know it as "that show on Sci-Fi" as Sci-Fi hasn't really advertised that it's an imported British show.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
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