Cosmic Star TroperYeah. I actually don't usually kill him even. I figure he can be turned to non-destructive ends or something. Maybe keeping the tunnelers under control.
I am serious. This is my serious face.Oh relax, it's a video game. Now I need to go back to the Mojave to retrieve more weapons to kill him with. Normally, I'd do that, and I probably am going to do that on my next playthrough. But right now I just really don't like him.
edited 14th Oct '12 1:10:39 PM by CPFMfan
The Paragon of EternityI have no idea how I managed to get as far as I did through Lonesome Road at about level 8 with my usual "enter the DLC area in only your underwear" thing. Astonishingly, the DLC does provide you with a fair deal of weapons, especially once you can off a few Marked Men (they were carrying Blades of the East and Sniper Rifles even at that level o_o). And the Hopeville Silo is astonishingly given, you only have to get rid of a few Sentry Bots that ED-E can take care of, and there's like, Plasma Rifles and a Nail Gun and a few other random things. ...sadly, I just could not do anything about the Deathclaws on the High Road. The Red Glare barely put a dent in them, they could off me in one hit, and there wasn't any running away from them.
edited 14th Oct '12 3:04:15 PM by GyraSolune
Why do you fight? Why do you exist?
I am serious. This is my serious face.I think that Lonesome Road is by far the hardest of the DLC. I brought the Infinity Plus One Gear and I still ended up using up all of my healing items and money (to repair my armor). I died eight times; three times to Deathclaws on the High Road, once to Tunnelers underground, once when three Marked Men with Anti-Materiel Rifles ambushed me, once when I stepped on too many satchel charges (ARRRRGH!), and twice on that goddamned elevator.
edited 14th Oct '12 3:11:41 PM by CPFMfan
UniocularGod. Fuck that elevator. Not only is it a pain in the ass, but it doesn't fit in Fallout at all.
I am serious. This is my serious face.It's like that elevator in Half-Life, except they replaced the headcrabs with Black Ops Assassins and tripled the enemy count. And made it longer.
edited 14th Oct '12 3:33:20 PM by CPFMfan
UniocularWhich is why it doesn't fit in Fallout. I mean, if it were headcrabs, at least they're easy to kill, but no, it's a bunch of Demonic Spiders.
MaelstromI found it alright; it really wasn't that bad, and I've got difficulty maxed. What I did was I hid in a corner with my LMG and shot at everything that moved. Lonesome Road is one of the easiest DLC quests, since it adds the horrifically broken Auto-Inject Stimpak, and healing items are found everywhere. I actually had to stop picking up stimpaks because they were making things far too easy.
Just beat LR with the jsawyer mod using nothing but the medicine stick, handloaded 45-70, and some stimpacks. I'll never get why some people don't like using lever-action rifles. They look awesome and are useful in almost every situation.
I am serious. This is my serious face.Honestly, Ulysses's dialogue would be half as long if he couldn't use the words "history" and "symbol". His Berserk Button is pretty ridiculously arbitrary.
Uniocular@Millard: I agree completely. Lever-actions are so much better than the "modern" guns, save maybe This Machine simply for its name and reloading animation (*ching*). Or at least cooler.
I am serious. This is my serious face.I just had a thought: if Lanius assimilated 19 tribes, and he wasn't notable enough for Graham to have ever heard of him, does that mean the Legion was sending soldiers to fight in Buttfuck, Nowhere while still fighting the NCR?
The Paragon of EternityThing is, the Legion is a hell of a lot bigger than what we see in game. They basically have a grasp on Arizona so firm that raiders aren't even a thing. So while there's a significant force out in the Mojave, back home they assuredly have more, and those people are off conquering other tribes. I agree with the sentiment that it would've been incredibly effective were we to actually see some of the Legion territory and the rest of their society that hopefully isn't comprised of terrible people (just...backward people similar to what you would indeed see in ancient Rome). But all we get to see of the Legion is the tiny sliver they extend from and their fighting force that does tons of depraved things for the purpose of intimidating the NCR (after all, you hear what sounds like crockpot stories about them from a handful of people and then it turns out they're even worse than that). Plus it would've given a Legion player some credence were they to actually go help out around their territory like you tend to do with the NCR. Instead, all you ever seem to do for the Legion is fuck off their enemies.
edited 14th Oct '12 8:25:37 PM by GyraSolune
Why do you fight? Why do you exist?
Coin OperatorIt may also mean that Lanius was recruited after Graham was thrown off that cliff while on fire. The aura given to Lanius may actually be a myth propagated by Caesar to create a sort of "bogeyman" to be feared, as there are conflicting accounts about the person under the mask. And of course, the Legion is spread out, with the core army focused on the NCR, and that the Legate is responsible for the primary force. The existence of troops at Nelson under their own commander, and again further south are evidence of other units in the Legion having different assignments. So yes, Lanius could have been a commander of Caesar's forces sent out to conquer more tribes while Graham was busy leading the main army.
I am serious. This is my serious face.Thing is, Word of God plus many things in-game says that Legion territory is just as hellish as their fighting force. There really is nothing good about the Legion, and anyone who sides with them is Stupid Evil. If Lanius was high enough in the hirearchy to be put in charge of pacifying all those tribes, you'd think Graham would've heard of him.
edited 14th Oct '12 9:31:28 PM by CPFMfan
War ALWAYS changes. Man does not.Or has been suggested that Lanius is a legacy character, and Graham did know the man before he took on that identity? He just didn't know him in the time after he put that stupid mask/helmet thing on.
Grin and tonicAnyone want to come up with catch phrases for the various factions? For example: NCR: I'll kick your ass...as soon as I fill in this form in triplicate.
Cosmic Star TroperIndependent: Screw you guys, I'll make my own faction! With Blackjack! And Hookers!
Independent: Screw you guys, I'll make my own faction! With Caravan! And Hookers!
It's not over. Not yet.
Cosmic Star TroperWhat do you mean "with caravan"? Caravan sucks brahmin dick and blackjack is still around in 2281. And it better fits the Vegas theme
edited 15th Oct '12 2:48:57 AM by Balmung
War ALWAYS changes. Man does not.The game is popular in the rest of the Mojave. As folks will remind you, New Vegas does not equal the Mojave.
Cosmic Star TroperAlso, MY faction certainly wouldn't have Caravan. Have I mentioned my undying hatred for Caravan yet? Because I really hate it. I mean, if an NCR officer came up to me and asked me to play a round of Caravan, I would shoot him in the face for it, blow up the base, and join the Legion just to get way the fuck away. I hate it that much. In my faction, Caravan would be punishable by summary execution.
edited 15th Oct '12 2:55:33 AM by Balmung
Sierra 117Brotherhood of Steel: Pre-War tech or GTFO.
It's not over. Not yet.
UniocularJesus, man. Personally I enjoy Caravan greatly.
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