Rename: One Up Sampo get usage counts

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1 DragonQuestZ7th Aug 2010 01:05:17 AM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
I always had a problem with One Up Sampo, because it's not named for something in a game. I'm fine with naming something for Norse Mythology, but not when it's not even an example.

Why not something Infinite Live Trick or Infinite 1-Ups, which is what a lot of the strategy guides call this? I mean, there should be plenty of trope namers that actually come from video games. Using an obscure item from even a classic story is not a helpful name.
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Infinite 1-Ups can work. In New Super Mario Bros. Wii, there are unlockable videos actually labelled "infinite lives", showing how skilled players can exploit the game mechanics farm extra lives.

Wait a sec ... farming is an established MMORPG term. Where's the article for gold/extp/etc. farming?
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^ you know I can not find a trope about Item Farming or Gold Farming only Level Grinding, Randomly Drops and The Ridill

edited 7th Aug '10 10:12:22 AM by Raso

4 DragonQuestZ7th Aug 2010 12:28:49 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
To the YKTTWmobile!

Anyway, now we can get back to this trope name.

edited 7th Aug '10 12:29:10 PM by DragonQuestZ

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5 Meophist7th Aug 2010 12:29:43 PM from Toronto, Canada
... I keep on reading the title as One Up Sanpo and getting a totally different meaning out of it.
Slight correction, the sampo is not from norse mythology.
7 DragonQuestZ7th Aug 2010 10:45:36 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Okay, I goofed there.
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I always thought Sampo sounded like a kind of dance, like, a dance that gets more one ups. Guess I was wrong.
9 DragonQuestZ14th Oct 2010 11:09:24 AM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Bump.
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10 DRCEQ14th Oct 2010 05:22:39 PM , Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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^ you know I can not find a trope about Item Farming or Gold Farming only Level Grinding, Randomly Drops and The Ridill

On that note, The Ridill is an absolutely HORRIBLE name. No redirects and it's about some extremely obscure sword from Final Fantasy 11.
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11 DragonQuestZ14th Oct 2010 10:34:11 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Go ahead and make a topic for that. I will support it.

Anyway, do you think we have a consensus, or should we have a rename crowner?
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12 Madrugada14th Oct 2010 10:41:58 PM , Relationship Status: In season
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It definitely needs a rename. Has anyone offered a defense? It didn't go through YKTTW, as far as I can tell, so it didn't get the third of the three rules of three (three people who agree the name is good).
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I support a rename. A Google search reveals that the trope title isn't an existing term, and the reference is pretty obscure (I've never heard of it, anyway.) In its defense, there isn't any misuse, but it's only found in 33 articles, and only brought 11 people to this wiki, so there isn't any big cost to renaming it.

Alternative name suggestions: One Ups To Infinity or Bonus Life Loop. Eternal Existance Exploitation is too general for a videogame exclusive trope, but it sounds nice so I'm mentioning it.
14 KnownUnknown14th Oct 2010 11:46:21 PM from Here. There. Everywhere.
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I'm also in the middle of YKTT Wing Life Level.
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Dragon Writer
^ Which I'm not convinced is tropeable/separable in its own right. (But that's a different topic.)

edited 14th Oct '10 11:52:07 PM by Stratadrake

16 KnownUnknown15th Oct 2010 12:16:00 AM from Here. There. Everywhere.
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Aye, direct your complaints to the YKTTW.
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17 savage18th Oct 2010 03:43:41 AM from an underground bunker
Bonus Life Loop sounds like another trope... a 1up a bit after a checkpoint and a bit before a really tricky bit. It's a loop because you get the 1 up, die, get the 1 up, die, get the 1 up... I should probably run that through YKTTW (maybe later), though I don't think I'd use Bonus Life Loop, pretty sure I can come up with something better...

Anyways. There is a preexisting term for this One Up Sampo thing in the gaming community which is Infinite 1-Ups or Infinite Lives. It doesn't -necessarily- have to refer to a Cheat Code that makes your lives never run out, though that's where the name came from. I personally favor Infinite 1-Ups because it references the 1-Up items and helps to differentiate it from infinite lives gotten through a Cheat Code. It's fairly self-explanatory as a title too.

edited 18th Oct '10 3:46:02 AM by savage

Dragon Writer
Infinite 1-Ups works. Infinite Lives can be confused for games that don't actually use lives whatsoever and just kick you back to the latest checkpoint, no matter how often.

edited 18th Oct '10 10:03:46 AM by Stratadrake

19 Twentington22nd Oct 2010 10:43:56 PM from Somewhere , Relationship Status: Desperate
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Infinite 1-Ups, I agree.
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20 BlackWolfe22nd Oct 2010 11:01:40 PM from Lost in Austin
Wow, we don't already have Infinite Lives? I agree that Infinite 1-Ups works, even if it's a gross exaggeration.
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I like One Up Sampo, though I'll admit only because I know what a Sampo is.

One Up Fountain? Spews Forth Extra Lives?

Infinite Lives and variations sounds like a cheat code.

edited 25th Oct '10 3:18:55 PM by billybobfred

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Cure Candy
One Up Combo? Infinite does sound like a cheat while this is an inuniverse combo that generates 1 or more lives that can be chained.

edited 25th Oct '10 3:38:22 PM by Raso

23 DragonQuestZ25th Oct 2010 03:47:59 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Infinite 1-Ups is best. Infinite Lives seems more like a cheat code.
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I like One Up Farming, personally.
25 shimaspawn25th Oct 2010 06:42:10 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
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Alternative Titles: One Up Sampo
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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