YKTTW workstation thread:

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^Ah, OK, didn't know we were enforcing that strictly now. ^^;
127 Deboss19th Sep 2011 01:55:52 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
We're not, that's why I said "a personal preference". We do however have an official "the work name should not be buried in the back of the example, not potholed under a name" guideline. Decreasing the visibility of the work name increases likelihood of a duplicated example.
I'll overhaul the examples on all my YKTTW sometime in the next few days. tongue

edited 19th Sep '11 2:07:52 PM by FrodoGoofballCoTV

129 Elle2nd Oct 2011 03:08:21 PM , Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
Dramatis Musica

I'd like to clean this out of my YKTTW backlog. I believe it's valid and has enough examples to launch, but it absolutely Needs a Better Title and I can't come up with one.
I could use some help with a YKTTW I proposed. I know I've seen this one a million times in Sitcoms, but I need some examples beyond Live Action TV, and I could use some help on the title please.

Getting The Baby To Sleep: Parents try increasingly unconventional methods of getting an infant to go to sleep.
Dragon Writer
Where's the "recently launched" thread again? Critical Status Buff is out the door, needs more indexes (if possible) and cross-linking.
Cue The Rain (that thing where just when things look like they can't get any worse, it starts to rain) could use some more examples.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
133 BrokenEye25th Oct 2011 11:15:02 PM from Beyond the Stars , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
True False Prophet
You know how in movies, conspiracy theorists will almost always have a wall or cork-board or something where they've stuck photos and newspaper clippings and stuff that relate to their theories and lines connecting the various things to each other and scribbled notes explaining how it all fits together? Why isn't there a trope for that? It certainly shows up enough. I figure its probably a subtrope of Room Full of Crazy, but its definitely deserves its own trope.

Kinda like this (sorry didn't know how to embed image): [1]
"How do you know I'm bored?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
134 Deboss26th Oct 2011 12:07:42 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Hm, I'd suggest mentioning Properly Paranoid when it turns out to be right. But it definitely strikes me as a trope.

Western Animation

Justice League: The Question has a board of this connecting the various things that seem completely random.
^^ We already have that. It's the horrifically named String Theory, which covers virtually all the points you listed but isn't exclusive to conspiracy stories.
136 StolenByFaeries29th Oct 2011 12:59:09 AM from a sea of discontent.
Entrap me, Entrall me.
Walking by the Car - a trope where a couple have a fight in a car, the female (and it's almost always the female) will get out of the car and storm angrily down the road with the guy telling her to stop being silly and to get in the car.

Also, I've gotten a few responses for this so, do I edit my main post somehow to include them, or...

Sorry - it's my first time trying to make a trope.
“Ocean: A body of water occupying about two-thirds of a world made for man - who has no gills.”
Dragon Writer
General YKTTW etiquette is that you are in charge of editing your YKTTW draft. Other people can edit it too, but it's considered bad style if you don't give permission for it first.
138 Deboss29th Oct 2011 12:15:33 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Hm, if I were you, I'd broaden it out. There's no reason to restrict it to romantic variants (and not having "romance" in the name almost guarantees that you'll get non romance examples, which is what the Arthur example is). For instance, you'll see it in a Sink-or-Swim Fatherhood type of movie where the child gets out and does the same thing.

When someone suggests an example, I click the edit button and copy their entry directly onto the YKTTW section it goes in, unless I fiddle with it (I'm a stickler for the "[Work Name]: Text goes here" format) or it's X, Just...X (in which case I ask for elaboration) but people accuse me of being a hardass over in YKTTW, but I think it's worth it to build a nice pretty page.

139 StolenByFaeries29th Oct 2011 12:24:56 PM from a sea of discontent.
Entrap me, Entrall me.
That's a good point - I'll edit the main description to include non-romantics.

And that's a good example format - much easier to read.
“Ocean: A body of water occupying about two-thirds of a world made for man - who has no gills.”
140 Deboss29th Oct 2011 12:57:24 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
That's why I like it.

Oh, and the name of the work should never be hidden. Anything that looks like this: "Character Name does this in the second episode." should have it's brackets removed. You should never have to mouseover or click to find out the name of a work.

edited 29th Oct '11 12:59:10 PM by Deboss

Dragon Writer
No New Stock Phrases

Wiki Trope. How it acquired five hats so quickly is beyond me.
142 Deboss31st Oct 2011 02:14:02 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Wouldn't that be an administrivia, not a trope?
Dragon Writer
Whatever. (I still think Adminis-"trivia" is misnamed for pun's sake, but meh.)
144 StolenByFaeries4th Nov 2011 06:57:37 AM from a sea of discontent.
Entrap me, Entrall me.
Ah, sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm wondering if I should expand this trope idea to cover the inverse - where someone is kicked out of the care during the argument and maybe change the title to "Someone's Walking" or something so that it's more of a Type 1 and Type 2 scenario? Would it work like that?
“Ocean: A body of water occupying about two-thirds of a world made for man - who has no gills.”
145 Deboss4th Nov 2011 03:42:20 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Someone's Walking (unless that's just beside something else) is a bad name. It doesn't give the idea of a somebody getting kicked out of a car, and is likely to get called chairs on the title alone. Tropes tend to gravitate toward the name.

I, personally, dislike Type 1 Type 2 style tropes (if you do find it's the best option for your trope, name the types, seeing "Whatever The Trope Name Is: type 2 in episode three" on a works page is terrible) but if there's two distinct ways of doing it, it might work. You may want to consider launching a sister trope instead of a type 1/type 2. Hm, there may be a good type 1/type 2 distinction, specifically pertaining to the Put Out Or Get Out type situations where someone is kicked out of the car, rather than storming out.

You may also want to consider whether or not driving along side is a very important aspect of the trope, particularly in regards to the Clueless example.
Sophia Gata Hernandez
How do I make the YKTTW Smurfette Principle For Animals distinct enough from Smurfette Principle?

In the description, it says to list only subversions, lampshades, discussions, parodies, inversions, and aversions.
147 Deboss10th Nov 2011 10:41:20 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Why is it distinct?
Sophia Gata Hernandez
[up]It talks about how the gender disparity in animal characters is greater than that in human characters and how people tend to assume that an animal is male unless it looks distinctly feminine. It causes Viewer Gender Confusion if a female character lacks distinctly feminine tells.
149 Deboss10th Nov 2011 11:43:18 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I'm not sure how much of a trope that is.
Sophia Gata Hernandez
[up]I found a bunch of articles about there being far fewer female animals in relation to male animals than women and girls in relation to men and boys.

Here are the article links:

edited 10th Nov '11 11:55:48 PM by EdnaWalker

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